Anti-Bollywood thread

srkmish

Ambassador of Buzz
Nicely put by vyom..

Looking at the current trend, the way movies with skin show, item songs, comedy with sexist dialogues are breaking box office records, I feel the such movies appealing to the 'frontbenchers' audience aren't going anywhere..

Its not just the 'frontbench' audience. Many of my educated intelligent friends have this rational fanaticism for Salman 'bhai'. They go gaga over his movies and proudly proclaim how the current Salman movie has broken all box office records worldwide. They justify their love for these movies as nobody entertains better than the bhai.

As for me, having watched lots and lots of quality movies of several different nationalities , its really hard for me to enjoy these kinda movies when i can guess the next dialogue, the next scene and eventually how the movie is going to end. For those of us who are true movie buffs and who have watched lots of quality cinema, we become a bit of critic ourselves and give every new movie a tough test as to how innovative it is and how far it can hold our attention.
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Average people watching 2 hour Chennai Express be like : :clap2:





Nerds on the internet forums about movies like CE be like: :mallet: :machinegun: :newgun: :flamethrower: :fencing:
 

sam_738844

Wise Old Owl
Bollywood has also given us some movies that made sense and did more than entertained...

Paan Singh Tomar, Bhag Milkha, Gangs of Wasseypur, Lunchbox, Satyagraha, Rajneeti, Wednesday, Taare Zamin Par and the like....some off the road movies, not so bollywood-ish, not utterly sensationalized and hyped but still good watch....

By the way, Krish 3 is around, with that "imported" "vrrrm" inception background...but i wonder Where the f*** is "Krish 2" anyway, if am not wrong, there was a movie named Krish,missing the part where Krish 2 came around after that!!
 

moniker

Broken In
^ Ha! Koi mil gaya. Then krrish. So they decided to call this krrish 3. :D (I believe the number of 'r's I have entered is correct :p )
 

Piyush

Lanaya
I'm not a movie enthusiast, but I do watch those which are a treat to watch. In 2013, I have watched only these movie(s), am not lying.

1. Bhaag Milkha Bhag

Ya thats all. Dunno about other youngsters, but I'm lucky that terms like "peer pressure" , "being westernized" or "cool factor" does not exist in my dictionary. For this reason, some of my friends find me boring but others who understand this common platform, admire it.

Just think of it, if we the audience dont give a damn about cr@p that bollywood delivers, they will have some time to think upon it and they "might" come with better results, though its a dream far far away.
 

sam_738844

Wise Old Owl
I made some categories of movies currently made and seen by people in India...

1. B-Grade sex-comedy movies with poor jokes and double meaning words, which are abundantly available in whatsapp, fb and other social media, largely liked by age group 18-22. These guys all cherish the idea to see, feel and show other people that using slang in a secular way is in now, thus movies using the idea and hence proved its befitting...more like "swag".

2. So called "Inspired movies" and with incredibly stupid and newton-law-killing actions and humor, fundamentally copied ( sometimes dialog, sequences and music) from Telegu and Tamil movies, largely seen by people either bored with every other categories of movies there is, or for sheer fun being partly brainless while watching it and forgetting the movie after the first step outside the hall.

3. Romantic movies which rarely comes with good humor, not so stupid story, aligned with a more sober and healthy attitude towards current-gen idea of affairs and relationships. Sometimes equipped with really good music, some unconventional thought or act carried out by growing and genuinely talented actors there is now in Bollywood, seen by sane-minded people who admire romantic movies not because of the sake of it.

4. Political/Social eye-opener type movies, with heavy-duty star cast, dragging but with some realization of truth over corruption, anti-establishment, society degradation and other burning questions lurking there in... does not make it out to be hit, often criticized to have twisted facts or facts too embarrassingly true to be shown in Big screen, predictable but free, largely seen by people with age group of 25+ who despises movies with dances in colorful short-shirts in Switzerland.

5. totally off-the-track movies, built on anything which never crossed minds, or existed far-off in some good-read novels, drama, short stories and legibly put by theatrically sound movie artists and veterans still existing in bollywood with a handful of talented directors and growing artists. Rarely made any profit, seen by extremely restricted mass of people who are intelligent enough to spare the "intellectual" crap given by others for this movie and enjoys the movie solely because that was a piece of work in its entirety ...deserving praise.
 

CommanderShawnzer

Steam High Templar
I disagree with what vyom said
BOLLLYWOOD FILMS ARE TEH BEST SALMAN BHAI ROKSSSSSSSSSSSS


J/K
My real point is,People today have a very stressful job/life,and they need to unwind,Like,for e.g have a good laugh or "SALMAN BHAI AUR MAARO SAAALE KO!":stamp::boxing::chucks::fencing:,without having to care about a "Mind-f**kin story" or "acting" you know,just have some fun/entertainment/Time-Pass :grin:
Now that said,Its not like the public does not enjoy a good film. like BMB made a good amount of money,so do most of them Aamir Khan films
I just feel that the industry is OD'ing on these time-pass/masala films

I like all films btw.From Time-pass film like CE to Gangs of Wasseypur :grin:

Also there are completely bakwaas films with similar masala eshtory that go flop
like Ra.One,Chandni Chowk to China,Tashan etc

I pity hipsters who can't enjoy a film simply because it is too mainstream

Its not just the 'frontbench' audience. Many of my educated intelligent friends have this rational fanaticism for Salman 'bhai'. They go gaga over his movies and proudly proclaim how the current Salman movie has broken all box office records worldwide. They justify their love for these movies as nobody entertains better than the bhai.

As for me, having watched lots and lots of quality movies of several different nationalities , its really hard for me to enjoy these kinda movies when i can guess the next dialogue, the next scene and eventually how the movie is going to end. For those of us who are true movie buffs and who have watched lots of quality cinema, we become a bit of critic ourselves and give every new movie a tough test as to how innovative it is and how far it can hold our attention.

That's right.
 

srkmish

Ambassador of Buzz
I guess we can end this debate by accepting that eventually everyone watches movies to escape from reality and whether it is via Sallu bhai's punches or via the eloquent dialogues of Tarantino, everyone has a good time. Cheers :D
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
^^ The meaning of "Good Times" depends on person-to-person. And yes, i accept the quality of movies down-graded to a pathetic level. Be it bollywood, kollywood, etc, movies are sh1t. Few years ago 3/10 movies were retarded and BS. But now 9/10 movies are total sh1t. It's been long since i watch any indian movies in theatre. Even now, i prefer to watch Gravity in 3D, whereas a lot of tamil movies are released, but it ain't make me turn my head.
 

quagmire

Allllright !
But I would extend it by saying hollywood is also getting boring day by day ...same alien attack on US..same end of the world..same insects..same zombies...same superheros ...same nuclear effect on animals....aah I am fed up of all this...for last 20 years I saw this now STOP it hollywood.

+1. Hollywood is also getting unimaginative.

+1.

Good reads : Steven Spielberg and George Lucas predict ‘massive implosion’ in film industry
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
I see 1 Bollywood film per 5 years and 20 Hollywood films per year and 5 Telugu films per year.
P.S: All these I download from kat.ph , 1337x.org, thepiratebay.org and h33t.eu only.
 
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Desmond

Desmond

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We have already established that Bollywood movies are like FMCGs, something like McDonalds. Then, obsessing over bollywood movies is like eating at McDonalds for breakfast, lunch and dinner, everyday for the rest of your life. It is extremely monotonous and dull. The same actors who are mostly out of character or do not know how to act, who are in there for their looks only, same unimaginative storylines and same song and dance, etc.

Why are songs even part of movies? None of them are doing it right like it used to be in the early days. In the early days, the song sequences, though still lame, seemed like a part of the movie. That is, it used to match the art style of the movie. But now, it seems like it is just forced or used to advertise the movies. So, bollywood movies are just an investment for someone who has more money than brains.

As for the audience, how would the people, who do not care when the govt. kicks them in the *** time and again, care about what sort of movie they are watching? The reason I grew out of bollywood movies is because it is in my nature to explore. Therefore, if I find something that I like, I will dig out more of the same things from any sources that I can. These people on the other hand do not wish to explore or experiment, possibly because of negative indoctrination since childhood and therefore will consume whatever is put in front of them.

Observing people these days, I am not sure if it is bollywood that is making them docile or whether it is now a part of their nature. Not to question things but just go with the flow.

I see 1 Bollywood film per year ... and that's my fill .

I see that mostly accompanying friends where majority of them decide on this particular movie or while I am travelling in a bus with video.

Bollywood is awesome. Dol wit et.

I created this thread to deal with it. :p

+1.

Good reads : Steven Spielberg and George Lucas predict ‘massive implosion’ in film industry

Really good reads, Hollywood has its own **** to deal with and their quality is diminishing fast. More and more sequels and reboots are coming out and no new ideas and so many box office bombs.

I disagree with what vyom said
BOLLLYWOOD FILMS ARE TEH BEST SALMAN BHAI ROKSSSSSSSSSSSS

Salman Khan has KILLED people. Why is he walking free!!!??? How can people idolize such a person? Sanjay Dutt had an indirect hand in the Mumbai blasts in which people died, Indian people. I am quite convinced that Bollywood is run by the mafia, no doubt.

I made some categories of movies currently made and seen by people in India...

1. B-Grade sex-comedy movies with poor jokes and double meaning words, which are abundantly available in whatsapp, fb and other social media, largely liked by age group 18-22. These guys all cherish the idea to see, feel and show other people that using slang in a secular way is in now, thus movies using the idea and hence proved its befitting...more like "swag".

2. So called "Inspired movies" and with incredibly stupid and newton-law-killing actions and humor, fundamentally copied ( sometimes dialog, sequences and music) from Telegu and Tamil movies, largely seen by people either bored with every other categories of movies there is, or for sheer fun being partly brainless while watching it and forgetting the movie after the first step outside the hall.

3. Romantic movies which rarely comes with good humor, not so stupid story, aligned with a more sober and healthy attitude towards current-gen idea of affairs and relationships. Sometimes equipped with really good music, some unconventional thought or act carried out by growing and genuinely talented actors there is now in Bollywood, seen by sane-minded people who admire romantic movies not because of the sake of it.

4. Political/Social eye-opener type movies, with heavy-duty star cast, dragging but with some realization of truth over corruption, anti-establishment, society degradation and other burning questions lurking there in... does not make it out to be hit, often criticized to have twisted facts or facts too embarrassingly true to be shown in Big screen, predictable but free, largely seen by people with age group of 25+ who despises movies with dances in colorful short-shirts in Switzerland.

5. totally off-the-track movies, built on anything which never crossed minds, or existed far-off in some good-read novels, drama, short stories and legibly put by theatrically sound movie artists and veterans still existing in bollywood with a handful of talented directors and growing artists. Rarely made any profit, seen by extremely restricted mass of people who are intelligent enough to spare the "intellectual" crap given by others for this movie and enjoys the movie solely because that was a piece of work in its entirety ...deserving praise.

This is pretty much spot on. But I think that the producers do not wish to experiment is because it is too risky and might not be worth the investment if it bombs.

One genre that I believe that bollywood totally sucks at is horror. I used to watch Zee horror show and I used to love that show. The Ramsay brothers used to come up with some really creative stuff. Even though some of the stuff was plagiarized from hollywood movies, they were made with such a twist as to seem believable in an Indian setting. But there is a dearth of horror movies now because the audience now is probably desensitized by scenes which used to scare the older generation. The only way to truly scare the audience these days is to add subtle amounts of gore (non existent in Indian movies) for shock value, but the Indian producers cannot do that because that would give their movies an A certificate in the censor board and therefore limit their audiences and subsequently they cannot make enough money. Therefore I think the horror genre will always suck in bollywood until someone pulls off a really good one or until the end of time, whichever comes first.

Bollywood also sucks at War movies, Science fiction and fantasy for their own reasons.
 

Mr.Kickass

In the zone
There is a market for everyone.

Mainstream movies will remain like that. There are other great sources of getting movies which do not succumb to crappy standards. Sure, they are not mainstream and that is why one has to look elsewhere. I do not think one neither has the time nor energy to look for movies offline. Most of them are available online. So, there are some sources not know to just everybody. Not even in public torrents.

There is actually some effort involved in getting them yourself. Some of the great ones are not even described, let alone reviewed. Going through a description is better than wasting time watching one, just to figure out how it is. There are some great unknown blogs out there that cover movies not shown in the mainstream cinema. Just the other day I got to know about this Greatest Films| The Best Movies in Cinematic History(this is not a blog, but its useful)

I would suggest, just stay away. The mainstream remains. Just like the bell curve, more people occupy the middle large portion(mainstream) while the other ends occupy the small region(anti-mainstream)
 

SaiyanGoku

kamehameha!!
on facebook, some stupid fanboys start celebrating when a bollywood movie of their favourite actor (SRK, Salman, Ajay Devgan, etc) gets past 100 crore mark.

then i :troll: them by mentioning that this is pocket money for hollywood actors. :p :D
 
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Sarath

iDota
I like Bollywood movies. They are fun and a welcome break from normal routine.

Or maybe I just appreciate everything better after watching the movie "City of Gold" which is absolute most horrible movie I have seen in life and scarred my brains forever.
 
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