The thing that Dead5, Extreme Gamer, and reviewers from Polygon should know, not every game is for everyone. Reviews are opinion, but it doesn't mean you force them on your reviews, instead judge them by the game's own merit. Why bash the cinematics/story when its super clear that the game isn't for you.
My brother is an F1 fan, plays F1 games all the time, doesn't mean I go call the game boring, monotonous for not catering my tastes right? that would be one stupid thing to do, which is exactly what Dead5 was saying. It's not criticism, its just your opinion, you don't like Cinematic gameplay then move on, why waste time with them?
Making up stuff for the second time, I never attacked you, just making a simple observation. When the game isn't for you, go play a game you like, as simple as that.
And don't even get me started on the so called criticism Dead5 was making..Little girl as side character, what in the god's world is wrong with that? Like I said, criticism is fine as long as you don't pull out your opinions out of your butt and call it 'criticism'
Making up stuff for the second time, I never attacked you, just making a simple observation. When the game isn't for you, go play a game you like, as simple as that.
And don't even get me started on the so called criticism Dead5 was making..Little girl as side character, what in the god's world is wrong with that? Like I said, criticism is fine as long as you don't pull out your opinions out of your butt and call it 'criticism'
By you I didn't mean you specifically. I meant people. I'm saying "you" nowadays instead of people for some odd reason :wallbash: [img not directed at you but myself]
His criticism was fine. He wasnt attacking Naughty Dog or players who liked the game. He was attacking their product.
By you I didn't mean you specifically. I meant people. I'm saying "you" nowadays instead of people for some odd reason :wallbash: [img not directed at you but myself]
His criticism was fine. He wasnt attacking Naughty Dog or players who liked the game. He was attacking their product.
Let Dead5 decide what he was telling or trying to convey, not you. I know he is your bro but here not evrytime you need to explain for him. Let him speak for himself.
How did people miss this secret... it was great twist in the discussion drama regarding some computer architecture...GFX cards or Proccy IDK...
You guys have missed the greatest episode of the TDF season... it had so many twists, reveals, betrayals and "HACKING"!!
How did people miss this secret... it was great twist in the discussion drama regarding some computer architecture...GFX cards or Proccy IDK...
You guys have missed the greatest episode of the TDF season... it had so many twists, reveals, betrayals and "HACKING"!!
Making up stuff for the second time, I never attacked you, just making a simple observation. When the game isn't for you, go play a game you like, as simple as that.
And don't even get me started on the so called criticism Dead5 was making..Little girl as side character, what in the god's world is wrong with that? Like I said, criticism is fine as long as you don't pull out your opinions out of your butt and call it 'criticism'
Here are some photos from some cutscenes That I took while playing today
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Ellie is so cute
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Classic naughty dog, showing off with their ability to render environments.
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Why were my on topic posts saying that I didn't have much hope for The Last of Us because it relied on a cheap emotional hook and because I didn't trust the media because of BioShock Infinite, my post justifying the claims I made after they were questioned and my post questioning anirbandd's false accusation that I said that I hate Naughty Dog and cinematic games removed while the false accusation itself was not removed?
Why were my on topic posts saying that I didn't have much hope for The Last of Us because it relied on a cheap emotional hook and because I didn't trust the media because of BioShock Infinite, my post justifying the claims I made after they were questioned and my post questioning anirbandd's false accusation that I said that I hate Naughty Dog and cinematic games removed while the false accusation itself was not removed?
Why did you post them here in the first place if you didn't have much hope for LoU? You convinced yourself that it relies on cheap emotional hook, so why bother posting them here. So that someone will change your mind(doesn't look like its possible when you're so hellbent on hating it), or just calling out for arguments?
Honestly, tell me, where will the discussion really go after your hate posts? Except for Extreme, nobody shares your opinion, so what's the point?
There are a lot of fictional post apocalyptic stories(games, movies, books) based around children, and Ellie doesn't even die, its a very positive story. She carries the cure for the epidemic, and a group of science guys contracts Joel to escort Ellie(who will have to die in order to create a cure, by taking her brain out and reverse engineering it to be specific) in exchange of weapons, Joel agrees and escorts, but grows a fatherly relationship with her and...a twist in the end, a very positive one. Its a very human story, and I wonder why you have such a hatred for it.
They probably weren't serving any purpose, more like asking for some arguments, where will the discussion really go after your hate posts?
There are a lot of fictional post apocalyptic stories(games, movies, books) based around children, and Ellie doesn't even die, its a very positive story. She carries the cure for the epidemic, and a group of science guys contracts Joel to escort Ellie(who will have to die in order to create a cure) in exchange of weapons, Joel agrees and escorts, but grows a fatherly relationship with her and...a twist in the end, a very positive one. Its a very human story, and I wonder why you have such a hatred for it.
I realize that this post is a bit meta and off topic, but I hope that it is on topic enough to not be removed.
What hate posts? People keep mentioning them but I don't seem to recall any one.
I always say that gameplay should be put before cinematics and no amount of cinematics and set pieces can make up for bad gameplay or poor level design, something I have criticized Uncharted for but I never said I hate cinematics. If I did my mouth(or in this case, my keyboard) wouldn't emit rainbows while discussing JRPGs. I feel cinematics should be an added bonus to the gameplay. You shouldn't have to go through mediocre/bad gameplay to get them. There is another more suitable medium for them, especially if the storytelling is not interactive and it doesn't have branching plot lines. So, Heavy Rain & Virtue's Last Reward get a pass(even though I don't consider a 12 hour long QTE fest a game ), Uncharted (and possibly The Last of Us) doesn't.
Since Naughty Dogs last three games were not named Jak and Daxter (or Crash Bandicoot) and the fact that the game was being marketed on its revolutionary hyper realistic AI (which, if Polygon's review, reddit posts & that video are any indication, was false marketing) & story I have no reason to believe that it would be any good (from my perspective). I simply pointed out that BioShock Infinite had caused me to lose any form of trust in gamers and gaming media. They acted like it was written by some videogame equivalent of Isaac Asimov, and playing it simply made it clear to me that the story and character development were arse, so I had no reason to trust them when it came to The Last of Us, especially considering how ridiculous the same were in Uncharted. I never said that I hated it, I just said that I had no faith in it to be good.
If I state my observation that it relies on a cheap emotional hook (still not as cheap as Call of Duty Dog ), It could lead to valid discussion about how, even though it does that, it builds a deep and compelling story/ has awesome gameplay and doesn't have clunky controls making the game worth playing, instead of claims that my claims caused me to lose all credibility or w/e.
Those specific posts of mine weren't off topic or against the rules in any form so there was no reason to remove them. The discussion that followed, especially the one centering around The Legend of Zelda, probably, yeah. They were off topic.
Note: The counter points in paragraph 5 are entirely made up. I will not comment on them unless I play it myself.
Edit: And I never criticized the game for having a little girl as I side character. I simply pointed out that the game was relying on a cheap emotional hook in the form of a little girl.
There you go, you're circling this $hit around again. I wrote one big as$ post for your 'gameplay first'(which is more of "I want every game to cater my tastes") philosophy, and I really can't type that $hit again just to hear the same argument aaaall over again for the third time, go on with your rant. Cyborg out, hopefully
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