Source [We meet again, Rense.com]Rense.com said:This file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of Bryant Stavely. Excerpt from the World Island Review, January 1992.
A casual reading will give the impression, that the sites at Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro were littered with skeletons and were found in such position, that would suggest an instant annihilation of an entire city.link said:When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city[FONT="].[/FONT]
Again, a casual reading will give the impression, that the skeletons that were found, had flesh attached to them and that the deaths were due to some physical violence, the cause of which is mysterious.link said:Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death[FONT="].[/FONT]
Later excavation unearthed more Skeletal remains in other Indus valley ruins like Harappa, Dholavira, Lothal etc., which numbered a little more than 300. [I am not sure of the exact number.]Nine years of extensive excavations at Mohenjo-daro (1922-31) - a city of three miles in circuit – yielded the total of some 37 skeletons, or parts thereof, that can be attributed with some certainty to the period of the Indus civilizations. Some of these were found in contorted positions and that suggest anything but orderly burials. Many are either disarticulated or incomplete….Where are the burned fortresses, the arrow heads, weapons, pieces of armor, the smashed chariots and bodies of the invaders and defenders? Despite the extensive excavations at the largest Harappan sites, there is not a single bit of evidence that can be brought forth as unconditional proof of an armed conquest and the destruction on the supposed scale of the Aryan Invasion.
If it indeed was a nuclear explosion, then it must be of a kind, that we don’t of know yet. Here’s how Mohenjo-Daro looks today (Great Bath, College, Courtyard, Wall) after a couple of thousand years after the alleged explosion. And here’s how Hiroshima looked, after the actual explosion. Notice the difference. In case of the archeological remains of Mohenjo-Daro, the city is remarkably intact, except of course corrosion, and vandalism. Hiroshima on the other hand is practically leveled to the ground. True, that more that half of Hiroshima was made of wood, nevertheless, is it possible for primitive brick structures to remain erect, the way it is found in Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa, after a nuclear blast ? The other possibility is that the bomb used, killed only biological things and left the infrastructure intact. But that is highly unlikely.link said:Historian Kisari Mohan Gangulisays that "Indian sacred writings" are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
link said:At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal.
Radioactivity may actually remain for over a few millions of years, depending on the presence of the amount of radioisotopes. Normal radioactive exposure is considered as 300 millirems, at sea level, but permissible limit for an adult is 5000 millirems over the normal. 50 times normal would mean 15,000 millirems, which is fairly high. However, current background nuclear radiation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki is just as normal as entire Globe. This level was reached in just 60 odd years. If a blast of the nature experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, was responsible for such annihilation, how is it possible for the skeleton to remain so much radioactive, even after a couple of thousand years ?link said:These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki[FONT="].[/FONT]
I can’t say with reasonable accuracy, if Mr Kisari Mohan Ganguli, actually Babu Kisari Mohan Ganguli, was a historian or not, but I can tell with absolute certainty, that he did interpret The Mahabharata into English. But there is a catch. The interpretation was done between 1883 and 1896, a good 50 odd years before the first atom bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, and a good 90 odd years before the interview was included in the apparently fake news mag or site.link said:Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that "Indian sacred writings" are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons.
"The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli.
"Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."
How many times have these quotes been rubbed in your face as sure evidence of description of nuclear explosion described in The Mahabharata. Well, guess what. The quotes don’t appear in Mahabharata at all. Search for your self. The Mahabharata at SacredText.com is the one translated by Mr Kisari Mohan Ganguli and is the only publicly available translation of The Mahabharata.Rense.com said:"A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race.
"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white.
"After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river."
Last paragraghsacredtext.com said:Endeavoured to be deceived by those wicked ones, those ascetics, with eyes red in wrath, looked at each other and uttered those words. Having said so they then proceeded to see Keshava. The slayer of Madhu, informed of what had taken place, summoned all the Vrishnis and told them of it. Possessed of great intelligence and fully acquainted with what the end of his race would be, he simply said that that which was destined would surely happen. Hrishikesa having said so, entered his mansion. The Lord of the universe did not wish to ordain otherwise. When the next day came, Samva actually brought forth an iron bolt through which all the individuals in the race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas became consumed into ashes. Indeed, for the destruction of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas, Samva brought forth, through that curse, a fierce iron bolt that looked like a gigantic messenger of death. The fact was duly reported to the king. In great distress of mind, the king (Ugrasena) caused that iron bolt to be reduced into fine powder. Men were employed, O king, to cast that powder into the sea. At the command of Ahuka, of Janarddana, of Rama, and of the high-souled Vabhru, it was, again, proclaimed throughout the city that from that day, among all the Vrishnis and the Andhakas no one should manufacture wines and intoxicating spirits of any kind, and that whoever would secretly manufacture wines and spirits should be impaled alive with all his kinsmen. Through fear of the king, and knowing that it was the command of Rama also of unimpeachable deeds, all the citizens bound themselves by a rule and abstained from manufacturing wines and spirits.
Ancient cities, roughly connected to the Indus valley civilization, are actually been discovered, rather unearthed in Rajasthan, by ASI. And it is true that the region actually has high level of radiation, although ASI does not mention of any archeological site to be radioactive. The reason of such radioactivity is entirely different than what is been suggested. Indian Nuclear Project/ Power plant/ Testing sites/ nuclear waste dumping site, are all located in those areas of Rajasthan. This might help understanding.link said:Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region.
Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.
This is a story told to Surendra Gadekar. One day in Narora a worker with a geiger counter went to take tea in the canteen. His geiger counter suddenly went crazy. On investigating he found that the radioactivity was coming from the fire used for preparing the tea. Further investigation led to the discovery that the wood being burnt had originally been used for scaffolding inside the plant, and had got contaminated and hence should have been stored as low-level waste. Instead it had been sold to a contractor, who had fortunately sold it back to the canteen: hence this sordid practice of how the establishment deals with its waste was detected.
If the centralized bureaucracy of Maurya Kings two thousand years ago had discovered nuclear power, we in India and Pakistan would probably still be spending half our current national budget storing and caring for or repairing the damage done by atomic wastes.
Source[FONT="]I studied medicine in Calcutta. But even there I had never seen so many patients with tumors in a single day. On talking to these people in Tamlao I found that almost all the symptoms had appeared after five or more years of the reactor's commissioning. [/FONT]
khaghalmandal.com said:In 1973, based on the work done by K. Fredriksson of [Smithsonian Institution], Washington DC, D.J. Milton of US Geological Survey, California in collaboration with A. Dube and MS Balasundaram of Geological Survey of India impact origin of Lonar crater was established. They discovered breccia with shatter cones and material containing maskelynite. Maskelynite formation requires very high pressure almost 4 lakh times the average atmospheric pressure on the Earth. And this is created only during hypervelocity impact…Thus impact origin of Lonar crater was proved.
I dunno about all these evolution theory, big bang theory . But All i believe is there is some mysterious power which is making the earth to make rotation and revolution. There is some power which is making cell division in the mothers womb. Some call it as mysterious power and some call it as god. After all we can conclude that there is a unknown power in the universe which is making all these things. I mean which, science has designed to make humans respire only oxygen and tress only carbon-di-oxide. Thus making us dependable on the trees and trees to human.
More over the world has already witnessed some gods namely Jesus christ, Prophet mohammed and all others. the world has witnessed some of the phenomenon which we assume as gods play to be only some scientific phenomenon.
I believe in god and i believe in science. There is no human without science and there is no science without god.
What makes you think that I am not aware of the other side. Skepticism, for me, is not a fashion statement. I did not become a skeptic, because it looked good on me. You may be surprised, but it was that "other side" that made me a skeptic.T159 said:^^ should i point you to the other side too ?
True.T159 said:But there is still something that neither science nor beliefs can explain.
What else can I rely on, other than science.T159 said:You are relying too much on science for the sake of truth...
It is how one reaches the lofty heights of perfection - self criticism and correction. Isn't that the best part of science - that it is constantly trying to be perfect. Next time when you mock science the way that you do, think of yourself in 2008 AD and a man in 2008 BCE. The difference is a gift of a constantly evolving process of science.T159 said:...then comes another scientist with another theory and a brand new proof, its like bringing out patches and service packs when u can't provide an absolute image.....It simply sucks when u believe in things just coz it has got modern proofs and some xyz gave the demonstration, only to be later refuted by another pqr.
Life is indeed all about possibilities. But not about absurdities.T159 said:Life is all about possibility...FYI most of the theory explanation exists for ideal cases and for unreachable once we have extrapolations, regression analysis and statistics.
Science is all about knowing and the process of knowing.T159 said:Indeed science is all about exceptions.
True159 said:What you can't explain reasonably with science becomes myths and paradoxes.
True. But a friendly advice - "Don't be so open minded that your brain falls off."159 said:Rigidity of thoughts hamper development.
Relying on science is good! But u need to know how science goes & progresses then.karnivore said:What else can I rely on, other than science.
But believing theories, like big bang having so much boom n that of evolution, as facts is a sign of a mind that needs plenty of help n rest.karnivore said:A little skepticism is actually a sign of a healthy mind.
Study for now and leave the questions till tomorrow
Good luck for exams
Yeah am ready fo getting answers for my all doubts and questions
Add few more, what causes superconductivity ?
want absolute answers and no theory or assumptions
And what is the future of mankind ? Is it a vicious circle /
What happens after death ? Is there an afterlife ?
I was dead before I was born and will be dead after I die ? So relatively speaking I am dead for a considerable amount of time as compared to life am enjoying. So what do you think is death, another form of life or something else ?
What is near death experience ?
What is Spontaneous human combustion and where are the proofs of it ?
What is a sperm ? and why there is perfect chance of only one making it to the egg and fertilizing it. Why the hell differentiation of cell occurs too fast in some species and too slow in others ? Why every human born baby is so perfect and hardly a few suffers from anomalies ? What is that made such a perfect replication mechanism for DNA ? Who was the architect for that?
We know we created artificial intelligence but who created the natural one ?? Why there is a balance between the each organism ?
These are just few questions which even science can't explain clearly nor the beliefs ? What I want to convey here is that there is always room for possibility, facts are a dead end to nowhere.
If I knew the answer to these question, I wouldn't be questioning .
How can u tell what happens after death? Have u experienced death? Then how come u r here? If u have read other people's experiences, it implies that they r not dead neways! Then what's near death experience?naveen-preloaded said:ok simply say .. can u say where u are while sleeping ( deep sleep )... u dont .. u cant ... thats wht happens after death .. with one exception... that u wont get up and dont get dreamzzzz.....
O'Reilly?naveen_preloaded said:i dont get you first of all.. if u die.. u die just like a insect... thats all.. gone as dust.. no return back... !! no afterlife.. it exist only in films....
Since u r an expert in following & putting up digg.com articles here as a general source of reference to be considered, then here's some food for thought from not the best source but atleast better than digg.com.naveen_preloaded said:ust one thing .... there is nothing called or exist as afterlife... simply because those are myths... / legends...
maybe its a myth, may be not.wiki said:Afterlife research in the early 20th century
Science, in general, either describes the universe and human beings without reference to a soul or to an afterlife, or tends to remain mute on the issue. A notable exception is a famous study conducted in 1901 by physician Duncan MacDougall, who sought to measure the weight purportedly lost by a human body when the soul departed the body upon death. MacDougall weighed dying patients in an attempt to prove that the soul was material, tangible and thus measurable. These experiments are widely considered to have had little if any scientific merit, and although MacDougall's results varied considerably from "21 grams," for some people this figure has become synonymous with the measure of a soul's mass. The title of the 2003 movie 21 Grams is a reference to MacDougall's findings.
naveen_preloaded said:death is point where ur brain suffers massive hypoxia and shock.. medically speaking.. death is equalent to death of ur brain.. there is nothing beyond it...
U r crossing ur limits nows!naveen_preloaded said:if i ever cross my limit ... please tell me so
yeah i was a bright biology student, used to crunch reference books to the last bitebut instead of going through al;l these links.. go to a medaical college lib
yeah i was a bright biology student, used to crunch reference books to the last bite
Opted for Engg just for the sake of less headache. Now am just an average Joe.
There is one simple question of which i still haven't got any answer.
if there is matter then there is antimatter.
So if I die then will that be the end of everything or beginning of another cycle, as I was dead before i was born and will be dead after I die . look at the fraction of life compared to death, is it that minuscule in amount. So there must be something in vast boredom of death
Isn't death is another state that favors the least energy?
Sleep is an opening to surreal world, you can't control your dreams, may be someday i will be able to. But imagining is different where u are not in deep sleep and can imagine controlling the sequence.
I have more than three reference books with me, man i love biologyno atleast just borrow one and go through first few pages.. u will find your answer regarding foramtion of baby... etc...
Logic is a subset of information representation. Its best in maths and other things. But not where your instinct comes to rescue.as for ur second question... its a logicless question ( pardon me for saying that... i too agree thinking that way is a different path.. but think it in a rational way.. it may appear different ) ... to answer it .. i can say .. u were NOT BORN ( not the other way around ... dead ) before u were born...
so isn't that mean the same am talking about; you were something before and will be something after.to simply put... the concept of dead b4 born is like heat which gets converted into electricity... ( ie ur birth ) and u reach the tubelight.. and wasted ... gone ( meaning u r dead ).... there is no cycle here...
bizarre and oddities serves as a mean to find new things and exceptionsi think i came close to answering ur question in a bizzare way....
i never meant to hurt you... in anyway... i too like to think like you... but after thinking for a while and putting fullstops @ neccesary areas... i will find a answer...