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heidi2521

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so much for using google right

Vita Outsells 3DS in Japan, Strong Sales Continue - IGN


PlayStation Vita Price Drop Boosts Sales Dramatically In US | Geeky Gadgets


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i dont understand how killzone is a semi-casual ? secondly how is gran turismo a casual racing game ? if you dont know about it dont type it. better to keep quiet than making a fool of yourself.

really? after 10+ years of mario and zelda and pikachu im bored to death, and no i dont want to hack and slash zombies while riding around in a stupid cart... got anything else?

Those were Media Create numbers while Famitsu reported that the sales were on par. Right now the Vita sells 20k per week with week on week decline and 3DS sells 60 - 65k stable.

Killzone is semi casual because of the extremely low skill level. GT is casual because of the same. If you've played Mario Kart on anything above 50cc you will know what I mean about skill. Please win a gold trophy in Star Cup in 150cc before claiming that the Karts are stupid and GT is not casual. If for you "Bloody Screen So Real" type games are not casual, then nothing is.

Every Zelda game plays differently. They are in the same franchise because they share the same universe, tropes & genres. ZombiU isn't a zombie hack n slash like dead rising. It is more of a Survival Horror game where you are supposed to avoid them. Your best weapon is a cricket bat and you don't shoot accurately because you haven't got access guns earlier and have no training with it. Super Mario 3D Land, NSMB, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi RPG, Mario Party etc. are in the same franchise because they star the same character. All of them play differently and are in different genres. Intelligent Systems may be working on a new Advance Wars title for the Wii U now that they are done with Awakening. DX:HR for the Wii U will be awesome because it can be used for hacking.

Nintendo has said that whenever they develop a new idea they see if it is compatible with an existing franchise. If it is they release it under that, otherwise they create a new IP. It is extremely stupid to dismiss the entire Mario meta-franchise because you don't think NSMBWii is hardcore.

Each Pokemon game has significant changes to the gameplay making it even better with every release. Black & White was a total overhaul that refined and improved the Pokemon formula a lot and X & Y look like they will be even better.

BTW, congratulations on ignoring most of my list.

The Wonderful 101, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, Bayonetta 2, Monolith Soft's X, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Yarn Yoshi, Rayman Legends Murfy Sections, Nintendoland, NSMBU, Super Smash Brother 4, Zombi U, Lego City Undercover, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem and whatever nintendo may decide to announce. In unannounced titles you have the inevitable 3D Mario and Legend of Zelda games which should be mind blowing even if they are only half as good as SMG2 & SS. Retro(Metroid Prime series, Donkey Kong Country Returns) is working on a secret project for the Wii U that is supposed to be really great. Using the gamepad as the PDA in Watch_Dogs will be awesome, like using the gamepad as the Batputer in Arkham City/Origins is. Nintendo's first party titles are usually some of the best games games in the world and japanese devs make better games than western devs. Split Screen without screen sharing in SALSRT is pretty cool and the ball mode is awesome. You can have your fighters cosplay as Mario, Link, Capt. Falcon, Zelda etc. in Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U edition and the Mushroom Mode is pure awesome

Naah. Never.

Always preferred it over Wii/Xbox 360 till Sony pissed me off by advertising and then turning Other OS off. And storing passwords for many services in plaintext. Incompetency.

And interrupting your game when you are playing asking you to update to boot.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
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ahaha mario kart? i bet you cant finish getting a licence in gt5 forget about playing the game :lol: google if you dont know what that means


you are lucky im not posting this on reddit or 4chan...... :lol: this is so hilarious :rofl: nintendo fanboy claiming killzone is easy.... AHAHAHAHAHAHA

i dont think u read what i wrote :

after 10+ years of mario and zelda and pikachu im bored to death, and no i dont want to hack and slash zombies while riding around in a stupid cart... got anything else?

*wiiudaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wii-u-comic.jpg

dont mind the memes they are just for fun... this arguement is pointless because clearly you dont any SONY software title. guessing by the looks of it you havent even played any.
 
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heidi2521

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ahaha mario kart? i bet you cant finish getting a licence in gt5 forget about playing the game :lol: google if you dont know what that means


you are lucky im not posting this on reddit or 4chan...... :lol: this is so hilarious :rofl: nintendo fanboy claiming killzone is easy.... AHAHAHAHAHAHA

i dont think u read what i wrote :

What aids in Mario Kart? Shells, Boosts, Bullet Bills etc. make the game harder not easier by adding another layer to it. It may be easier to enter Mario Kart but it is nigh impossible to master it. GT has a much lower skill ceiling than Mario Kart.

Killzone isn't as easy as Call of Duty or Battlefield so I listed it as Semi-casual not casual. Compare it to something hardcore like Quake or Metroid Prime and you'll get what i mean. I read your post and spent a large amount of my previous post replying to it. I pointed out that each TLoZ and Mario play differently and it is stupid to dismiss them all based on one. I pointed out that pokemon has changed a lot over the years with B&W being an extremely large overhaul and X&Y even larger. I pointed out that Zombi U isn't a Zombie hack n slash game but a survival horror one where you need to avoid zombies rather than shoot/chainsaw thes a la Dead Rising/Left 4 Dead. I pointed out that my list contains games that are not Mario, Pokemon, Legend of Zelda or ZombiU, but you decided
to ignore them.

Believe it or not i am quite active on Reddit.

I've played Sony titles including Uncharted, Little Big Planet, GT, Killzone, Infamous, Rachet & Clank and Wipeout. I don't dismiss games I've not played.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
What aids in Mario Kart? Shells, Boosts, Bullet Bills etc. make the game harder not easier by adding another layer to it. It may be easier to enter Mario Kart but it is nigh impossible to master it. GT has a much lower skill ceiling than Mario Kart.

Killzone isn't as easy as Call of Duty or Battlefield so I listed it as Semi-casual not casual. Compare it to something hardcore like Quake or Metroid Prime and you'll get what i mean. I read your post and spent a large amount of my previous post replying to it. I pointed out that each TLoZ and Mario play differently and it is stupid to dismiss them all based on one. I pointed out that pokemon has changed a lot over the years with B&W being an extremely large overhaul and X&Y even larger. I pointed out that Zombi U isn't a Zombie hack n slash game but a survival horror one where you need to avoid zombies rather than shoot/chainsaw thes a la Dead Rising/Left 4 Dead. I pointed out that my list contains games that are not Mario, Pokemon, Legend of Zelda or ZombiU, but you decided
to ignore them.

Believe it or not i am quite active on Reddit.

I've played Sony titles including Uncharted, Little Big Planet, GT, Killzone, Infamous, Rachet & Clank and Wipeout. I don't dismiss games I've not played.

really, which level did you reach in gran turismo ? quake ...... and learning curve ? omg.

**** dude, i dont want a ban.... thats why i wont reply here. :lol: but im laughing really really hard right now..... like real hard .... my stomach has started paining
 
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heidi2521

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I don't own GT myself but i gave it a try at my friends home. I believe i did the Japanese cup over there. If you read my posts, you know that i consider Polyphony Digital a good studio, Just not as good as the EADs which develops Mario Kart.

Quake does have a learning curve if you play online. It may not be as steep as Monster Hunter but it is there. Don't expect me to believe you mastered the movement and weapons of Quake the moment you started. You actually need to be careful with your health and keep note where the health packs are because you can't just take cover and automatically heal. You can't take cover and hide from enemies because they will skirt around and kill you. You don't have a fixed corridor to go through and you have to move about the arena carefully to kill and not get killed. If you make a small mistake in a good server in Quake you can be instantaneously killed. Quake is definitely hardcore and certainly more hardcare than Killzone.

Tell me, what is the best cup you've won in MK? Which galaxy you've reached in SMG? Which dungeon have you cleared in the last Legend of Zelda game you played? Which world you've reached in NSMBWii? How far across london have you gotten in Zombi U? Or have you even played the games you are dismissing?
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
since when?

Wii U has still sold more units than uhm Vita. lol.

Lol really!!

SONY’S PS VITA COMEBACK CONTINUES AS WII U FAILS

really, which level did you reach in gran turismo ? quake ...... and learning curve ? omg.

**** dude, i dont want a ban.... thats why i wont reply here. :lol: but im laughing really really hard right now..... like real hard .... my stomach has started paining

Same here. :) I really couldn't help laughing when i heard comments like "killzone is semi casual" and "Mario galaxy" is hardcore.


All wii-u lovers try to answer the following:

Will The Wii U Survive?
 
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d3p

PowerHouse
For me Sony any day..

I modify my PSP with Custom Firmware & now it runs games for free.

Looking forward for a J-Tag PS3 for GT5 & few racing titles.

I don't know but Wii can't handle that..
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Lol really!!

SONY’S PS VITA COMEBACK CONTINUES AS WII U FAILS
erm lol really what?

PS Vita sold 3 million in more than a year. Wii U sold 4 million in 4 months.

Said a lot of times - handhelds are history. iOS/Android is where handheld games are these days. 3DS will be the last handheld which sold well.
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
erm lol really what?

PS Vita sold 3 million in more than a year. Wii U sold 4 million in 4 months.

Said a lot of times - handhelds are history. iOS/Android is where handheld games are these days. 3DS will be the last handheld which sold well.

I was talking about current sales. Vita was very expensive at launch but its not now. Its outselling the wii-u now which was the whole point.

Vita will sell and its showing now. I won't be surprised if it catches 3ds. But your point on future handheld gaming with Android and the likes is true though.
 
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heidi2521

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Lol really!!

SONY’S PS VITA COMEBACK CONTINUES AS WII U FAILS



Same here. :) I really couldn't help laughing when i heard comments like "killzone is semi casual" and "Mario galaxy" is hardcore.


All wii-u lovers try to answer the following:

Will The Wii U Survive?

Dude, have you even played Super Mario Galaxy?

The Vita has sold between 2.5mil - 3mil while the Wii U has sold over 4mil.

Nintendo's Wii U division has already made money for them while the Vita division hasn't broken even.

The Wii U will survive. It has the full force of Nintendo behind it. Namco, Capcom, Temco Koei, Atlus et al have pledged support for the console. You have Warner, Ubi, Acti and Disney on board. The 3DS got nil western dev support, yet look at where it is now. Compare that to the Vita for which a lot of Western Devs were promising games.

EA was going to support the console until they decided they wanted Origin on Nintendo Network and Nintendo said no to that.

The Wii U may not have large numbers but it has a high attach rate so the Wii U division is making money already. Nintendo had said that they just need to sell one FP game of 2 TP games to make each unit profitable. This is not counting the eshop.

Nintendo has shown that it can turn consoles around. See: Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS. They survived and their games kicked ass on the N64 and Gamecube.

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Lets see the PS3 get games like SMG, Skyward Sword, Sin & Punishment, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story and Metroid Prime.



Seriously, give the Wii U a try. I personally didn't expect it to be this awesome. I bought it because there was no way i was willing to miss on the Legend of Zelda, Platinum Games', Retro Studios' and Monolith Soft's projects, 3D Mario, Monster Hunter and Rayman Legends. Nintendoland, Lego City Undercover, ZombiU etc. were unexpected, surprisingly good bonuses. Asymmetrical multiplayer is really a lot of fun. Off TV play is great too. Its low power draw(75W max TDP) means that i can play for hours into a power cut off my UPS.

@Vita's rear touchpad :rofl:

I was talking about current sales. Vita was very expensive at launch but its not now. Its outselling the wii-u now which was the whole point.

Vita will sell and its showing now. I won't be surprised if it catches 3ds. But your point on future handheld gaming with Android and the likes is true though.

It is barely outselling the Wii U and that is in Japan only. The Wii U will cross the Vita sales next week if the decline continues as it is right now. The Wii U outsold the Vita in Europe in march inspite of a long drought with no games(6 weeks+). At the current rate it will take the Vita 500 weeks to catch up to the 3DS given that the 3DS doesn't move any more units. Android and IOS will not destroy handheld gaming until they get uniform hardware, dedicated buttons and full games like SMT:DSO, Super Mario 3D Land, Fire Emblem, Shinobi, The Legend of Zelda etc.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
just so you know before you go on a posting ramage, about zelda, mario and all that

Wii-U boat torpedoes Nintendo's '¥20bn profit' into ¥20bn loss ? The Register

Dude, have you even played Super Mario Galaxy?

The Vita has sold between 2.5mil - 3mil while the Wii U has sold over 4mil.

Nintendo's Wii U division has already made money for them while the Vita division hasn't broken even.

The Wii U will survive. It has the full force of Nintendo behind it. Namco, Capcom, Temco Koei, Atlus et al have pledged support for the console. You have Warner, Ubi, Acti and Disney on board. The 3DS got nil western dev support, yet look at where it is now. Compare that to the Vita for which a lot of Western Devs were promising games.

EA was going to support the console until they decided they wanted Origin on Nintendo Network and Nintendo said no to that.

The Wii U may not have large numbers but it has a high attach rate so the Wii U division is making money already. Nintendo had said that they just need to sell one FP game of 2 TP games to make each unit profitable. This is not counting the eshop.

Nintendo has shown that it can turn consoles around. See: Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS. They survived and their games kicked ass on the N64 and Gamecube.

@d3p somethingsomethingpiracysomethingdevmoney[/something]

Lets see the PS3 get games like SMG, Skyward Sword, Sin & Punishment, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story and Metroid Prime.



Seriously, give the Wii U a try. I personally didn't expect it to be this awesome. I bought it because there was no way i was willing to miss on the Legend of Zelda, Platinum Games', Retro Studios' and Monolith Soft's projects, 3D Mario, Monster Hunter and Rayman Legends. Nintendoland, Lego City Undercover, ZombiU etc. were unexpected, surprisingly good bonuses. Asymmetrical multiplayer is really a lot of fun. Off TV play is great too. Its low power draw(75W max TDP) means that i can play for hours into a power cut off my UPS.

@Vita's rear touchpad :rofl:



It is barely outselling the Wii U and that is in Japan only. The Wii U will cross the Vita sales next week if the decline continues as it is right now. The Wii U outsold the Vita in Europe in march inspite of a long drought with no games(6 weeks+). At the current rate it will take the Vita 500 weeks to catch up to the 3DS given that the 3DS doesn't move any more units. Android and IOS will not destroy handheld gaming until they get uniform hardware, dedicated buttons and full games like SMT:DSO, Super Mario 3D Land, Fire Emblem, Shinobi, The Legend of Zelda etc.

lets get down to it.. shall we... its a question of honor :lol: (rampage mode activated)

1. *www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/30/nintendo_turns_profit_to_loss_as_wii_u_stalls/

2. EA is a game publisher which is pretty sad, but still carries around a lot of weight with many titles like sims and battlefield
 
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heidi2521

Padawan
just so you know before you go on a posting ramage, about zelda, mario and all that

Wii-U boat torpedoes Nintendo's '¥20bn profit' into ¥20bn loss ? The Register

Nintendo's financial report indicates that the 20bn loss included a large write off, the development costs of their unreleased games and the R&D cost of the Wii U. The Wii U division is making money but hasn't recouped all the initial costs.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
I don't own GT myself but i gave it a try at my friends home. I believe i did the Japanese cup over there. If you read my posts, you know that i consider Polyphony Digital a good studio, Just not as good as the EADs which develops Mario Kart.

Quake does have a learning curve if you play online. It may not be as steep as Monster Hunter but it is there. Don't expect me to believe you mastered the movement and weapons of Quake the moment you started. You actually need to be careful with your health and keep note where the health packs are because you can't just take cover and automatically heal. You can't take cover and hide from enemies because they will skirt around and kill you. You don't have a fixed corridor to go through and you have to move about the arena carefully to kill and not get killed. If you make a small mistake in a good server in Quake you can be instantaneously killed. Quake is definitely hardcore and certainly more hardcare than Killzone.

Tell me, what is the best cup you've won in MK? Which galaxy you've reached in SMG? Which dungeon have you cleared in the last Legend of Zelda game you played? Which world you've reached in NSMBWii? How far across london have you gotten in Zombi U? Or have you even played the games you are dismissing?

if you dont own gt yourself, then you dont say. just pass the driving test plz. Polyphony digital is more than a studio FYI . If you are considering games with learning curves then cs 1.6 the best one, alongwith dota and racing games like grid and simulators like gran turismo. It hardly takes 2~4 hours to get used to the weapons mechanics and all. Killzone and quake are on 2 different sides. killzone multiplayer is in a league of its own. you cant say, o_O no health packs so therefore its not hardcore. Just look up hardcore gaming and see what it means first. I dont play mortal kombat, i havent played SMG, zelda, NSMBWii and zombi U if a game has 20+ hours of gameplay or has a complex storyline doesnt mean its hardcore. Thats like saying if need for speed had 200 hours of gameplay it would be hardcore. I have played mario kart and its not all that difficult you claim it to be.

if i want to play a zombie game, why wont i chose left 4 dead. ? or dead island? you are trying to justify that nintendo titles are for hardcore gamers, the fact is they are not... you are using the complex storyline and deep characters to read the game as hardcore. If you want hardcore then play Final Fantasy or play metal gear solid and hitman series and skyrim .. that is hardcore.

With each level of metal gear solid there are so many ways you can achieve the same goals, same with hitman

Nintendo's financial report indicates that the 20bn loss included a large write off, the development costs of their unreleased games and the R&D cost of the Wii U. The Wii U division is making money but hasn't recouped all the initial costs.

yes.. so ? the point was that by the time this turns into a profit for nintendo it will be too late.
 
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d3p

PowerHouse
Cut the crap, every game parlour, who owns either a Modded PS2 or modded PS3 charging 10-15bucks a hours never heard of Wii !.....nailed

Long Gone those good Wild Summer Vacations with Super Nintendo 16bit...
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
erm lol really what?

PS Vita sold 3 million in more than a year. Wii U sold 4 million in 4 months.

Said a lot of times - handhelds are history. iOS/Android is where handheld games are these days. 3DS will be the last handheld which sold well.

not exactly, with the ps4 and vita integration it will change. handhelds are here to stay.
 
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heidi2521

Padawan
just so you know before you go on a posting ramage, about zelda, mario and all that

Wii-U boat torpedoes Nintendo's '¥20bn profit' into ¥20bn loss ? The Register



lets get down to it.. shall we... its a question of honor :lol: (rampage mode activated)

1. Wii-U boat torpedoes Nintendo's '¥20bn profit' into ¥20bn loss ? The Register

2. EA is a game publisher which is pretty sad, but still carries around a lot of weight with many titles like sims and battlefield

I accept that the Wii U won't get the most sales this console gen, but has a lot of Japanese support and awesome FP games coming for it which justify the console. AFAIK Konami is the only major Japanese publisher who hasn't commented on the Wii U. Pretty much everyone else said that the console is awesome and that the gamepad lets them do things they couldn't do before. Sega said that it was very impressed by the Wii U and has fantastic developments for it. Platinum Games has said that the Wii U is an amazing piece of kit very easy to develop for that offers a lot of new gameplay opportunity. Namco Tales has said that they love the console but don't have any games in the pipeline right now because they are working on the western release of Tales of Xilla.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
I accept that the Wii U won't get the most sales this console gen, but has a lot of Japanese support and awesome FP games coming for it which justify the console. AFAIK Konami is the only major Japanese publisher who hasn't commented on the Wii U. Pretty much everyone else said that the console is awesome and that the gamepad lets them do things they couldn't do before. Sega said that it was very impressed by the Wii U and has fantastic developments for it. Platinum Games has said that the Wii U is an amazing piece of kit very easy to develop for that offers a lot of new gameplay opportunity. Namco Tales has said that they love the console but don't have any games in the pipeline right now because they are working on the western release of Tales of Xilla.

you notice something? you are using the word "japanese" a lot. There are 100+ other countries in the world apart from japan and make up 99.9999% of the population. They all say this... but its not the same thing. Video games are mainly sold in America and Europe, basically these countries / continents are the ones which drive sales. granted wii was a fantastic revolution at its time, but now its not the same thing

if you dont have the particular audience for a game how will it sell ? have you seen the recent shift? call of duty games used to be based on the world war era, but they changed it with cod 4 and its huge reception...shows is a change in the mental attitude of the gamers , we dont want old... same characters... bull **** stories .. People want change . A major reason for sales of ps3 Ip's was their freshness. Uncharted brought in a new experience.... AAA hollywood movie style cinematic and story line, awesome graphics and good multiplayer.

with nintendo all i am seeing is their past 10 years creations are bearing fruit. 99% of the people here wouldnt like to play mario and zelda if they had the time / resources. Its not the time period for it anymore. in the 1980's the difference was that majority of the people who bought video games were kids and teens... not adults. And if you check wikipedia, the average age of the gamer is 30 in america and 23 in USA, so i dont think 30 year olds will want to play zelda.

thats the reason that games like call of duty, gears of war and other games sweep the ground. games like battlefield are much more intensive and sell a lot better because there is a huge market for such people.

for people who want light gaming do buy nintendo, so do kids. but this is changing the rapid evolution in the society has brought a revolution with games which are closer to reality. David cage himself said that he would like for the gamers to experience real emotion with the game. If nintendo Wii-U was such a big revolution why did not he go to nintendo ?

nintendo caters for kids and casual audience... you may not want to accept it but this is the truth. And the casual market segment is quickly losing out to smartphones and tablets, soon with wireless output companies like nintendo will lose their battles to them.
 
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