Batman vs. Ironman

[Anorion]

ionno, poll might kill discussion
if dead5 wants it, will add

one of the older series (think it was Batman forever), Batman had a garage full of supercars and superbikes. the new ones, he has a diff lambo in every movie, whereas Iron Man has at least 3-4 supercars in the garage, and one of em is a prototype tesla roadster.

the comic book series, the suit is a part of him, just magically comes on whenever he wants it.

ironman made his suit from junk and missile parts. so if you strip both of them of everything, and put them in an island, think it will be stark who is resourceful enough to get out of there.

batman has batarang, ironman has heat seeking missiles that shoot out and blow stuff up

 

[vickybat]

Its not like batman is less intelligent or has less access to futuristic weapons. Batman has more than one answer to ironman's heat seeking missiles. All of batman's manned vehicles has missiles with
several functionalities and not just the "blast on site" type. Future batman suit as seen in batman beyond can match even ironman's suit including power of flight,invulnerability and superhuman strength.

But ironman isn't a skilled fighter like batman. With a better suit, batman will simply own ironman in hand to hand combat. He even beat superman once ( Frank miller's version of "The Dark knight returns"). The animated movie shows this clearly.

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Talk about intelligence, batman created kryptonite on his own using Wayne tech resources(When the original parts were lost or destroyed). Its like he created a new element unlike tony stark.
His IQ is said to match with one of the best intergalactic aliens out there. Once he managed to hack and override darkseid's hellspores in planet Apokolips. Even darkseid with all his fellow scientists were unable to stop the hellspores and was forced to negotiate with batman ( never done by a human before batman).
Source - Super/Batman Apocalypse.

In the first episode of justice league TAS, batman was the one who saved everyone reversing the ion-charge of the alien device after studying it. Batman is one the few heroes who has the power to do almost anything when the situation arises and never tires. Even psychic villains have failed to get into batman's mind and corrupt him. Given the need, batman can design a better suit than ironman as he was able to build a suit to battle superman.


That said, i actually have to give credit to Robert downey junior for his fantastic portrayal of ironman. In comic books, ironman is not that great in terms of character but downey junior
gave him a fresh take and meticulously sculpted a whole new character in ironman. I am a huge fan of Robert downey jr and very few actors can match his sense of humor followed by serious acting.

 

[abhidev]

Well, in this case you're removing super part from superheroes. This is not ethical. If this was the case, Hulk ftw !!

it's more abt their abilities

 

[Faun]

this thread is getting funnier to read.

 

[rajatGod512]

Batman can defeat anybody if given preparation time , he has defeat supes and Darkseid . It is apparent in a huge number of comic books. In a very old issue dont remember the name but it was one DC/Marvel Crossover Batman took on Hulk and he stood his ground .

The thing is in the Nolan Movies Batman was not the comic book Batman , In the movies, Batman has barely any fighting skill (in the comics he's a master of over 120 different martial arts, and I think in the movies it's just 3 or 4) and Iron Man has barely any other than the boxing training he has with Happy and some wrestling/MMA stuff on the side. The suit makes him fly much faster than Batman can run or his Batcycle/Batmobile can travel, BUT, Iron Man can be hacked. But in the movies, Bruce Wayne/Batman isn't made out to be extremely intelligent like the comics - that's what Lucius Fox is for.

SO, IMO this would be a great tie.

P.S. - @vickybat The Dark Knight Returns both parts were better than TDKR , dont you think.

the comic book series, the suit is a part of him, just magically comes on whenever he wants it.

Well that is because of the Extremis Virus inside of him , Iron Man 3 (Movie) is going to be based on this arc .

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremis_%28comics%29

 

[vickybat]

P.S. - @vickybat The Dark Knight Returns both parts were better than TDKR , dont you think.

Well Nolan's version deviates quite a bit from the comics storyline. Imo you can't compare both.
Same can be said about the above frank miller's version when compared with conventional dc story arc.. Even in nolan's TDKR, batman is still seen as extremely intelligent as he fixed the auto pilot algorithm of the prototype
bat-plane. Even lucious fox wasn't able to fix that. I liked both the movies, each with a different taste.

 

[Anorion]

ironbat

*i.imgur.com/HE1fn5D.jpg

 

[Flash]

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*cdn.techgyd.com/IronManBatman.jpg

 

[aal-ok]

> Iron Man can fly even in a plains, whereas Batman requires buildings to fly; or should I call it "Land in style".

> Iron Man has an inbuilt cell phone while Batman does not.

> Iron Man can watch movies or browse TDF while engaged in a combat, while Batman cannot.

> Iron Man has a semi-hot chick as a helper while Batman has an old saddy butler.

> Iron Man is powered by a "device" while Batman is powered by human grown "food".

> The Google Translate of Batman is "फ़ौजी का नौकर" whereas for Iron man it is "लोहे के आदमी".

haahahahhahh good 1 all of them

 

[heidi2521]

If you put Stark and Wayne in the streets of a crime ridden area like Detroit or Gotham, wayne will be able to get out while Stark will be screwed.

If Ironman was holding Batman like in an above image, batman would have jammed a Batarang(which is more of a Bat-shuriken nowadays) into the arc reactor or otherwise done something to get out of there and glide to safety.

@rajatGOD521 I agree that the Miller continuity is the best.

The nolan series took inspiration from multiple Batman storylines, with TDKR mainly taking inspiration from Millers' The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall.

In a fight between MCU Ironman and Nolan Batman Ironman would win because his is more SF/Fantasy while Batman is more Fiction/Reality. If Batman knew he would be fighting iron man he would have prepared a Bat jammer to dc Jarvis from him and used a Bat magnet to immobilize him. Batman doesn't rely on the Batputer in the Batcave during his battles while Ironman relies on Jarvis. Batman can hack into Jarvis and screw Ironman over while hacking into the Batputer won't hinder Batman once in battle. Hell, Jarvis is clearly connected to a public network while the Batputer isn't, so it is easier for Wayne to get into Jarvis than for Jarvis to get into the Batputer.

Batman has shown a great degree of resilience and self control which Ironman hasn't. Wayne has stood up to Luthor multiple times and won. Wayne even manages to take over multiple Luthor enterprises including the Daily Planet when he becomes president(Yes, that means Clark Kent's boss is Bruce Wayne).

Batman has a huge collection of Batcars, Batplanes, Batcopters and Batcycles. Ironman has nothing that compares.

 

[Flash]

Batman has a huge collection of Batcars, Batplanes, Batcopters and Batcycles. Ironman has nothing that compares.

Batman needs that huge collection, because he depends on them for travel, as well as for technical aids.
Ironman suit itself a huge gadget, he don't the array of vehicles, except for his luxurious hobby collection/

 

[Nerevarine]

Also if you take willpower into account, Batman survived the well Bane put him in.. He survived his spine being snapped in two and he gathered enough will to make it out alive..
Can Tony do all those ? Agreed he made a suit to get out of captivity but his condition wasnt as bad as Bruce Wayne

 

[dashing.sujay]

it's more abt their abilities

Cutting their abilities source and still talking about abilities ? What kind of comparison is this ?

That is like saying, dethrone obama and have a hands-on one-on-one, physically.

 

[heidi2521]

Batman needs that huge collection, because he depends on them for travel, as well as for technical aids.
Ironman suit itself a huge gadget, he don't the array of vehicles, except for his luxurious hobby collection/

Well, Ironman is too centralized. If one part is screwed his whole thing is screwed, while if all the Batcars go out of order, Batman still has other bat-vehicles he can use. Stark has shown that he cannot protect his own suits while trying to get a Batsuit without being an authorized Batman is impossible. The Ironman suit has the disadvantage that it cannot be used to carry sidekicks/team mates to the destination while that is no problem for Batman's Batvehicles.

Batman has shown a great degree of self control while Ironman has none. Even poison ivy was unable to make Batman violate his central tenets while a bit of alcohol is enough to get stark.Batman is extremely psychologically resilient and was able to blackmail Ivy into submission. He is willing to exploit the enemy and get to them. He threatened the destruction of Apokolips to get to Darkseid.

 

[theterminator]

Ironman dude, Batman is just a hype whereas Ironman knows what he's doing And ain't afraid to reveal his identity

Well, Ironman is too centralized. If one part is screwed his whole thing is screwed, while if all the Batcars go out of order, Batman still has other bat-vehicles he can use. Stark has shown that he cannot protect his own suits while trying to get a Batsuit without being an authorized Batman is impossible. The Ironman suit has the disadvantage that it cannot be used to carry sidekicks/team mates to the destination while that is no problem for Batman's Batvehicles.

Batman has shown a great degree of self control while Ironman has none. Even poison ivy was unable to make Batman violate his central tenets while a bit of alcohol is enough to get stark.Batman is extremely psychologically resilient and was able to blackmail Ivy into submission. He is willing to exploit the enemy and get to them. He threatened the destruction of Apokolips to get to Darkseid.

Still Batman couldn't understand the Joker! Why so serious?

 

[Anorion]

yeah batman survives. that's all he seems to do, painfully endure all the most horrible thing in the world.
Ironman prolly just calls it a party.

@ the graphic gearbox posted, the figures are in the right ballpark, ie ironman is richer than batman, but it skips over a whole ton of equipment on batman's side
it includes fox's warehouse full of stuff, as well as a murcielago, and the aventador

on ironman's side it is missing the tesla roadster, and that old fashioned classic car donno which one it is

 

[rajatGod512]

^^ I wont take that graphic into account as there is no proper way to tell the cost of the fictional things everything apart from the real cars are a wild guess.

 

[theterminator]

^^ I wont take that graphic into account as there is no proper way to tell the cost of the fictional things everything apart from the real cars are a wild guess.

Batman is only a Billionaire

 

[heidi2521]

Ironman dude, Batman is just a hype whereas Ironman knows what he's doing And ain't afraid to reveal his identity



Still Batman couldn't understand the Joker! Why so serious?

Batman is unwilling to reveal his identity because he wants to protect his friends and butler. Ironman willingly puts his acquaintances in danger by revealing his identity. Due to Wayne not revealing his identity, if he is unable to be there, someone else can take his place and it will have the same effect. Due to Batman not being bound to a person he is able to work far into the future too, while after Tony Stark no one will be considered the true Iron Man.

Nobody can analyze the Joker. Not even Ironman so it doesn't really count. He is too crazy for that.

 

[theterminator]

Batman is unwilling to reveal his identity because he wants to protect his friends and butler. Ironman willingly puts his acquaintances in danger by revealing his identity. Due to Wayne not revealing his identity, if he is unable to be there, someone else can take his place and it will have the same effect. Due to Batman not being bound to a person he is able to work far into the future too, while after Tony Stark no one will be considered the true Iron Man.

Nobody can analyze the Joker. Not even Ironman so it doesn't really count. He is too crazy for that.

The same way people can't accept a Batman without a Bruce Wayne, though there have been episodes but wo baat nahi hai .
Who knows about the Joker! May be Tony Stark is more crazier than the Joker. The Joker might be tempted too much by the partying and all & finally Iron Man will bring him down .