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Hello Choto Cheeta,

Please suggest me - STABLE - Intel ONLY - configuration for Home & Office use PC (no overclock) ,

Please do not include speakers/keyboard & mouse.

Budget up to 12k (+/- 2k) :)
 
keith_j_snyder2

keith_j_snyder2

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MenTaLLyMenTaL said:
For a 35k budget (constant), would buying a moderate gaming, video processing desktop now be wise or buying in feb/mar better? Will corei7, ddr3, and its mobo prices come down to fit in 35k incl monitor by then? Or would deneb be launched by then and fit in 35k?
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No core i7 will come come into that price. Have u seen that X38, X48 chipsets prices goes down drastically? Never! Companies launch cheaper alternatives but they never compromise on high end stuff.

Core i5 (Lynnfield or Havendale) & P55, G55, P53, G53 will be the cheaper alternatives which may come (in march-april) cheaper but not in Feb-march. Probably by aug-sept if AMD smokes by decent margin, who knows. But one thing sure that it won't come cheaper.
 
MenTaLLyMenTaL

MenTaLLyMenTaL

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^k thx.

Are there any sources currently which prove that deneb's cheapest model will be better than an C2D e8400 AND will it be under Rs. 9k? I'm deciding between whether to go for e8400 now or go for some cheap amd dual core right now and upgrade to deneb later.
 
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@keith, anyhow they would not be any inferior alternative to X58.
X series is also regarded as workstation series boards, so checnces of their prices coming down much is always low.
 
keith_j_snyder2

keith_j_snyder2

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MenTaLLyMenTaL said:
^k thx.

Are there any sources currently which prove that deneb's cheapest model will be better than an C2D e8400 AND will it be under Rs. 9k? I'm deciding between whether to go for e8400 now or go for some cheap amd dual core right now and upgrade to deneb later.
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Hmmmm...tough decision. Well AMD's any processor is not more than 10000/- and they still work great.
I rather not suggest u to go for E8400 because then u will have to stick to S775 processors which will continue (acc. to Intel) for another year but u will have less options for upgrade.
As for AMD side, Phenom II is also around the corner & buying AM2 platform is also going to be non-upgrade friendly decision (unless u go for AM2+ motherboard).

AMD counterpart is comparatively better because Phenom II will be AM2+ supporting so u can upgrade later but if u upgrade to Intel S775 platform, u won't be able to upgrade to Nehalem (Core i5 etc.).

acewin said:
@keith, anyhow they would not be any inferior alternative to X58.
X series is also regarded as workstation series boards, so checnces of their prices coming down much is always low.
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For sure! but as u know these X-series is quite strong contenders in the past too so can't match up their performance but like P55 might stick close to X58.
 
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topgear

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Which one is the cheapest but good overclockable intel chipset IGP motherboard for intel processor.
 
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acewin

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also you can count in few DG33 mobos from MSI, Asus and Gigabyte whose prices is around 4.5K, with DG33 you will have max 8GB RAM option and little better specs.
Said so only if strictly IGP is what you want. DG33 chipset is what you will say equivalent to P35 in performance with sucking intel IGP
 
rollcage

rollcage

AMD user for 9 yrs!!
Hi Choto Cheeta!

I need an urgent help..I am going to Nehru Place today afternoon, to buy the stuff, I am going to upgrade my cpu, I already have 17"tft widescreen, and MS wireless desktop elite combo, APC 650VA, Cannon Scanner, HP Printer, Phlips SHP2500 headphones, Benq DVDwriter, Sony Combo.
I need to buy Processor, Motherboard. Ram, SMPS, Hardisk(s)! ... Dad is giving me 10grand only.. So, if it goes up I have to put my savings in it.

I have shortlisted this.
Processor - AMD AthlonX2 4600+/4800+/5000+ whichever available.
Motherboard - this is the real trouble .. I enquired in Nov..lastweek ati-780 was not easily available, might just be the short term stock problem ..
I think these two might be available .. please correct me if wrong.
MSI - K9A2GM-FIM & Gigabyte - GA-MA78GM-S2H -> Which one is better?
I think gigabyte has eSata and MSI doesnt .. Is this correct?

RAM -> 2*1GB Transcend 800Mhz .. 700 x 2 = 1400
ithardwares.com states -> OCZ value.series DDR2-Dual.Channel 800Mhz (2GB Stick) - Rs.950 !! ..can I find this in delhi?
What is 2GB Stick Dual Channel? Can a single stick provide Dual Channel bandwith?
How is OCZ as a co.? Which 1 has better latency rates Corsair/Transcend/OCZ?

Harddisk -
Seagate 250GB - 2200, 500GB(8MB buffer) - 3215, 500GB(16MB) - 3175, 500GB(32MB) - 3500
WD - 250GB - 2200, 320GB(16MB) - 2550, 500GB(16MB) - 3125, 640GB(16) - 4000

1st tell me, are these 16MB buffer and 32MB buffer makes a real difference?
2nd are these options available in Nehru place, Delhi?
3rdly, I am thinking for over two years that I would put 2 harddisk in raid when I buy my next PC, So please tell me If I put two 250GB HDD in RAID-0 .. will I get twice the speed in copying data and will booting become really faster? or Is it better to buy the 32MB buffer harddisk? .. I strongly think putting extra money on 2HDD for Raid will give better results.. please advise..

SMPS - Cooler Master - 390watts was available for Rs.1450 .. is it good enough or I can get better value for money bargain.

also .. Shall I buy that Graphics card to use Hybrid-Crossfire thing! .. Do you think HD3450 256MB will be available after 6 months time. or should I buy it now if i get it in market. Is it going out of production soon?

Please advise guys... waiting by ..
Regards .. rollcage
 
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damngoodman999

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rollcage said:
Hi Choto Cheeta!

I need an urgent help..I am going to Nehru Place today afternoon, to buy the stuff, I am going to upgrade my cpu, I already have 17"tft widescreen, and MS wireless desktop elite combo, APC 650VA, Cannon Scanner, HP Printer, Phlips SHP2500 headphones, Benq DVDwriter, Sony Combo.
I need to buy Processor, Motherboard. Ram, SMPS, Hardisk(s)! ... Dad is giving me 10grand only.. So, if it goes up I have to put my savings in it.

I have shortlisted this.
Processor - AMD AthlonX2 4600+/4800+/5000+ whichever available.
Motherboard - this is the real trouble .. I enquired in Nov..lastweek ati-780 was not easily available, might just be the short term stock problem ..
I think these two might be available .. please correct me if wrong.
MSI - K9A2GM-FIM & Gigabyte - GA-MA78GM-S2H -> Which one is better?
I think gigabyte has eSata and MSI doesnt .. Is this correct?

RAM -> 2*1GB Transcend 800Mhz .. 700 x 2 = 1400
ithardwares.com states -> OCZ value.series DDR2-Dual.Channel 800Mhz (2GB Stick) - Rs.950 !! ..can I find this in delhi?
What is 2GB Stick Dual Channel? Can a single stick provide Dual Channel bandwith?
How is OCZ as a co.? Which 1 has better latency rates Corsair/Transcend/OCZ?

Harddisk -
Seagate 250GB - 2200, 500GB(8MB buffer) - 3215, 500GB(16MB) - 3175, 500GB(32MB) - 3500
WD - 250GB - 2200, 320GB(16MB) - 2550, 500GB(16MB) - 3125, 640GB(16) - 4000

1st tell me, are these 16MB buffer and 32MB buffer makes a real difference?
2nd are these options available in Nehru place, Delhi?
3rdly, I am thinking for over two years that I would put 2 harddisk in raid when I buy my next PC, So please tell me If I put two 250GB HDD in RAID-0 .. will I get twice the speed in copying data and will booting become really faster? or Is it better to buy the 32MB buffer harddisk? .. I strongly think putting extra money on 2HDD for Raid will give better results.. please advise..

SMPS - Cooler Master - 390watts was available for Rs.1450 .. is it good enough or I can get better value for money bargain.

also .. Shall I buy that Graphics card to use Hybrid-Crossfire thing! .. Do you think HD3450 256MB will be available after 6 months time. or should I buy it now if i get it in market. Is it going out of production soon?

Please advise guys... waiting by ..
Regards .. rollcage
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processor is really unusual , take some good processor like Core2Duo E7200 or AMD phenom X3 8450.

Asus M3A78-Em board has every facility u need comes with HDMI & 780G chiptset

300GB (32 Mb buffer ) if u want make it 2 its around 2.9K

Coolermaster 500 watts ext power is 2.4K


ATI 3XXX series is really a crap , go for 4650 or 4670 price around 4.5k to 5.5k
 
Faun

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rollcage said:
1. What is 2GB Stick Dual Channel? Can a single stick provide Dual Channel bandwith?

2. I strongly think putting extra money on 2HDD for Raid will give better results.. please advise..

3. SMPS - Cooler Master - 390watts was available for Rs.1450 .. is it good enough or I can get better value for money bargain.
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1. Dual channel needs two slots, and is faster than 1 stick of same size.

2. Raid is good when you need to have data safety and some performance gain

3. Get something near 500W or may be 440W.
 
rollcage

rollcage

AMD user for 9 yrs!!
@damngoodman999

Dude .. I am n a cash crucnh thats why, and I am addicted to AMD, cant ever buy Intel processor,
2. As for G-Card I have to take 3450 only to make use of Hybrid-Crossfire *ati.amd.com/technology/hybridgraphics/technology.html

@T159
I think 390W is sufficient considering.. I put monitor through UPS,

can some1 tell me, for putting HD on Raid-0 .. I need to buy 2HDD now or I can buy 1now and put them on raid when I buy second, Do we need to have same co. and model no.?
 
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kalpik

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Its better if you have same model. Raid 0 will only give performance boost, and no data security. ALL your data will be LOST even if one hard disk goes kaput. I would strongly suggest against Raid 0, unless you dont care about your data :p

Have a look here for various kinds of Raid: *www.acnc.com/04_01_00.html
 
rollcage

rollcage

AMD user for 9 yrs!!
^ ya I know Raid-0 will give me double speed on writting no security.
but thgat is same with every harddisk .. whethter I am using 1 or two.
raid-0 doesnt incease the risk does it?

can I do this.. but buy Seagate 500GB now, and buy WD 500GB latter and then put them in raid?

2. which one better transcend/corsair-valueram/ocz?

3. if both are 780g chipset which one is better msi or gateway or asus?
 
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