AMD Llano (desktop) discussion

[comp@ddict]

^^ No, as we saw right now, the A8 is perfectly capable of 65W TDP operation.

Those who want to overclock can just raise the voltage!!

I think hitting low TDPs would make better image to public.

Also, the 100W parts I feel should have something like:

- 3.2GHz core clock
- 750-850Mhz GPU clock

 

[coderunknown]

^^ No, as we saw right now, the A8 is perfectly capable of 65W TDP operation.

that i know. cause AMD will ultimately release a tweaked A8 within the 65W TDP (down from 100W ) though it'll be clocked quite a bit low & have turbo.

maybe it is related to stability under full load. as even last gen proccy are using default voltage of 1.425V whereas some of us using the same proccy have undervolted it all the way to 1.15-1.25V.

I think hitting low TDPs would make better image to public.

maybe not. cause public just wants higher clock & more cores (& cooler PCs). most won't care about the TDP of the proccy they are getting, except the ones shopping for HTPC.

but PC manufacturers may find it interesting. they can now use slimmer cabinets with less airflow.

 

[topgear]

PC manufacturers will wait for Lower TDP version of A8 lineup or they will use A6 instead.

No way they will underclock a APU from stock speed when they can actually overclock the apu for more performance boost - have anyone seen a under clocked cpu/apu config from any manufacturer anyway ?

 

[mitraark]

The innovation is nice but the price of Mobo Combo should be atleast below Rs 10k for people to seriously consider it, as well as form factor Mini ITX. People not looking to buy GPU will hardly be thinking about spending more , and people willing to spend more will know better to get a 6570/6670 at same price instead.

 

[topgear]

^^ nice point there - the APU+Mobo combo price should be 10k or less than 10k but some Liano desktop buyers might be interested to buy a gpu like HD6670 to take the advanbtage of dual gfx but it's needs some serious driver optimization anyway.

 

[comp@ddict]

but it's needs some serious driver optimization anyway.

It's just 1 month, by end of this year it should be better.

I think this Llano is a test, for the REAL FUSION which comes out next year, Bulldozer ENHANCED + VL4WD based DX11 GPU + Sideport(please!)

 

[Skud]

Trinity.

 

[comp@ddict]

Yep, it's gonna be awesome, the real Fusion we are waiting for. This was just a teaser!

Damn they will be using 32nm, we'll have to wait for Trinity's successor in 2013 for AMD to go 22nm (hopefully).

 

[Skud]

I think AMD is having some surprises in store for us. With Llano and BD and 990fx they are just warming up. Gosh, we do need competition.

 

[baccilus]

If I have to build a general purpose Desktop, which Llano processor and Mother board should I get? I have been asked to build an office PC and I would definitely like to buy Llano.

 

[topgear]

^^ I suggest you to take a look at here
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/1448618-post1114.html

It's just 1 month, by end of this year it should be better.

I think this Llano is a test, for the REAL FUSION which comes out next year, Bulldozer ENHANCED + VL4WD based DX11 GPU + Sideport(please!)

you are right about it but again much more waiting ........... involved

 

[baccilus]

Thanks Topgear

 

[topgear]

^^ you're welcome bro

 

[skeletor]

Re: Amd LLano (Fusion) Desktop discussion

That has to be some sort of motherboard issue which should be resolved through a firmware update.

Overclocking : Six A75-Based Motherboards For AMD’s A8 And A6 APUs

Gigabyte have fixed their issues perhaps.

6670 (rebranded 5670)

HD 6670 is not rebranded HD 5670.

 

[Skud]

BUMP

APUs in Server:-

AMD, Penguin Computing Deploy First Server APUs With Curious Results - HotHardware

 

[Cilus]

Nice link. The approch could be highly benificious if the workload can be dynamically distributed among the CPU and GPU depending upon their nature. As Super Computer design takes the advantage of Parallel processing, the APU can be utilized to do it by using its GPU.

I am unable to give you rep as I need to give rep to some more persons before I can give you again.

 

[vickybat]

^^ In that case, let me give him a rep.

Btw nice find skud

 

[Skud]

Rep or no rep, thanks to both of you, Cilus & Vicky.

 

[coderunknown]

BUMP

APUs in Server:-

AMD, Penguin Computing Deploy First Server APUs With Curious Results - HotHardware

thanks for the link. giving it a read now

 

[Skud]

Much earlier than expected:-

AMD A8-3870K and A6-3670K are available for pre-order


*fudzilla.com/processors/item/25096-two-new-llanos-up-for-preorder

So, we are looking at quad-core parts with 4MB of L2, clocked at 2.7GHz and 3GHz. As you’ve probably guessed by now, the “K” suffix means they have unlocked multipliers. The TDP also stayed the same, 100W. Like their predecessors, the A8-3870K and A6-3670K don’t feature Turbo, which is reserved for 65W parts.

*www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/images/L_A6-3670_and_A8-3870_prices.jpg