Religion, do we really need it ?

Religion, do we really need it ?


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sygeek

Technomancer
I never mentioned that God made them like that. If I did believe that God made him like that (and if I had strong faith), I would say that its a test from God or God has a different plan for him which does not involve him. Of course, God gave man free will so man is free to choose what he wants to do. He will be judged for is actions later.
alright, but it still doesn't answer my question.
 

Desmond

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Thanks for elaborating. But now, my question changes to, why is practicing homosexual activities wrong? Isn't it unfair that straight people can marry and indulge in such activities but homosexuals can not because god made them so (rhetorical question)? Also, why do you not support it either besides it being a sin?

Personally, I do not support it because I see them no different from pedophiles or people with similar paraphilia. They were not supposed to have those tendencies in the first place. So, as far as I am concerned there needs to be a cure for homosexuality.

As for the unfair part, yes it is unfair. But, God gave man free will to do as he pleases, the catch being that he will be judged in the end for whatever he does. Now, since there is no way of knowing whether the said judgement will occur or not, you can gamble. So, they indulge in their gay relations as usual, if the religion is true, they will be judged and will burn in hell (or whatever equivalent for other religions) forever.

Religion aside, also note that straight relations produce offspring, that is the natural order of things. So, gay relations are unnatural by default.
 

Faun

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Personally, I do not support it because I see them no different from pedophiles or people with similar paraphilia. They were not supposed to have those tendencies in the first place. So, as far as I am concerned there needs to be a cure for homosexuality.

The difference in first case is that one of the person is not mature enough to give his/her consent.
 

Faun

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But the other person is not supposed to approach the first at all.

But in second case both the persons are mature enough to decide if they are happy living together. There is a huge difference in your analogies.

World is not black and white.

Those believing in reincarnation will beg to differ with your views.
 

sygeek

Technomancer
You do know that pedophilia =/= homosexuality? There is a huge difference.

Firstly, in the first case, as faun said, the person isn't mature enough to give his consent and most of such acts involve rape but this happens with straight people too, so you can't use that as an argument. In the latter case, both the person agree to like each other and promise to live a happy life and indulge in their private acts without offending anyone. How do you reason that them being happy is unacceptable because it isn't natural. In this modern age, most of what you do is unnatural, building roads, creating cities, skycrapers isn't a natural process.

Secondly, this is wrong form of argument. I could say heterosexuality is a similar form of pedophilia, so heterosexuality is wrong. This is similar to that, so that is wrong. Since homosexuality is considered a sin, one's brain immediately tries find a least acceptable reason so it can get a general acceptance of their idea because <this>. This is a form of confirmation bias. Don't worry, we all do it.
 

Anorion

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hmm cool. glad to see so many viewpoints.
more than marriage laws, the need of the hour is co-habitation rights, this benefits hetero live-in couples as well.
 

Nanducob

Wise Old Owl
For pedophiles its just 'bang and run' whereas for homosexuals,its not just the sex,theyre emotionally attached to each other.
 

Desmond

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What I told you about homosexuals so far was my own opinion. I do not care whether it is a sin or not, just that I don't like it.

But, for homosexuality to be adopted, religion needs to go. But religion will never go as long as religion has followers. And religion will have followers as long as people have faith.

As I have mentioned in my earlier posts, there is no way of knowing whether your God(s) exists or not and consequently, no way of knowing whether a particular religion is true or false (perhaps until we die). Therefore, there is no way of knowing whether homosexuality or any other act is a vice not. All that we can do is live our lives the way we want according to free will, irrespective of whether we believe in God(s) or not and hope for the best. If you continue to sin by proclaiming that there is/are no God(s) and at the end of your life God(s) does/do exist, you will be damned according to whatever's the modus operandi of that deity, the ramifications of which we cannot comprehend as well.

So, homosexuals can do what they like. I cannot judge them for their actions. Let God(s) (if they exist) judge them. All I can say is that they are born with some bad wiring up there.
 
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Anorion

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birds, bees, bed bugs, praying mantis, black widow, flatworms, all have bizzare wirings, all still 100% invention of mother nature
bed bugs got the worst wiring possible Traumatic insemination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

bit off topic? think religion will crop up even if you start with a clean slate, with or without a guidebook, maybe even without a need for belief. seen some superstitions within virtual worlds, these make no sense, but still magically emerge.
 

Desmond

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birds, bees, bed bugs, praying mantis, black widow, flatworms, all have bizzare wirings, all still 100% invention of mother nature
bed bugs got the worst wiring possible Traumatic insemination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prototype of rape?

bit off topic? think religion will crop up even if you start with a clean slate, with or without a guidebook, maybe even without a need for belief. seen some superstitions within virtual worlds, these make no sense, but still magically emerge.

Everyone wants to make sense of their environment and everything that goes on around them. Some move to religion, some move to science.
 

Faun

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^^I think you are still undecided. In times of despair, even the most rational of people resort back to religion and dogmas.
 

doomgiver

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bit off topic? think religion will crop up even if you start with a clean slate, with or without a guidebook, maybe even without a need for belief. seen some superstitions within virtual worlds, these make no sense, but still magically emerge.

I can say that, yes, superstitions exist even in the virtual world consider this : A few weeks ago on the gaming site, armorgames, there was a flood of messages saying this :


"DONT READ THIS. ok, now that you have started reading this, DONT STOP.


tomorrow will be the best day of your life, your crush will kiss you in public, and everything will go perfectly.


just do this :say your name once. say your mom's name 5 times, say your crush's name 10 times.


now press f6. your crush's name will appear in big red letters on the screen.


OMG THIS ACTUALLY WORKS, THIS IS SO FREAKY!!!


post this message to 3 other games for it to work. if you dont do this, everything will go bad."



i mean, the every freaking game had pages full of this shite.f these people and their stupid need for self affirmation and needless attention whoring.
 
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Desmond

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I can say that, yes, superstitions exist even in the virtual world consider this : A few weeks ago on the gaming site, armorgames, there was a flood of messages saying this :


"DONT READ THIS. ok, now that you have started reading this, DONT STOP.


tomorrow will be the best day of your life, your crush will kiss you in public, and everything will go perfectly.


just do this :say your name once. say your mom's name 5 times, say your crush's name 10 times.


now press f6. your crush's name will appear in big red letters on the screen.


OMG THIS ACTUALLY WORKS, THIS IS SO FREAKY!!!


post this message to 3 other games for it to work. if you dont do this, everything will go bad."



i mean, the every freaking game had pages full of this shite.f these people and their stupid need for self affirmation and needless attention whoring.

There is a name for such people. They are called TROLLS!!!
 

Nanducob

Wise Old Owl
Sometimes,I get some emails with some gods photo in it,which says forward it to 7 people,or else youll Die ! Usually i'll forward it to 6 people,didnt die,though:)
 
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