sygeek
Technomancer
It was just an example.^lol, Jesus ? It wasn't even mentioned in his post.
The same way people commit to a relationship with their god or jesus, he committed to science... That doesn't even make sense, science is not a religion.
*** Science Or God? ***
The same way people commit to a relationship with their god or jesus, he committed to science... That doesn't even make sense, science is not a religion.
sygeek
Technomancer
Yes, but read the whole context. If I say a quote about religion and then say I'm committed to science, what does it represents? He's following it like a religion, which it isn't.
Let's say he said a quote about religion and then said I'm committed to programming. Would that make sense altogether, learning the point he's referring to?
Agreed. Science is full of holes. But religion has more holes
God never said that you have to visit temples and crowd around his statues. Why do people trample each other to see a stupid statue? God should be appalled and he should call on some "Aakashvani" BS or come in one of his hundreds of thousands of forms and set things straight.
BTW Stephen Hawking says that the creationist theory is invalid
I don't know the specifics but look it up in internet. I think there was a tiny article in the unwind section of a much earlier digit issue.
God never said that you have to visit temples and crowd around his statues. Why do people trample each other to see a stupid statue? God should be appalled and he should call on some "Aakashvani" BS or come in one of his hundreds of thousands of forms and set things straight.
BTW Stephen Hawking says that the creationist theory is invalid
I don't know the specifics but look it up in internet. I think there was a tiny article in the unwind section of a much earlier digit issue.
Thats his pronoun.
Technically god should be 'it'
Technically god should be 'it'
speedyguy
Cyborg Agent
@Extreme Gamer : i got a mail showing an image of a car which almost fell off a clip after loosing control but every one was safe staying at the edge. the punch line was "now do you believe god exists". ok agreed god saved them and it wasn't a consequence. i mean every accidents are not that lucky but still lets agree for a second.
now i have a different situation here, in these worship places in india, there are hundreds killed every year in stampede. why no one mentions the same quote there? what's their fault who are killed? worshiping? or is it God only who does that to help india out with population?
Enjoy~!
now i have a different situation here, in these worship places in india, there are hundreds killed every year in stampede. why no one mentions the same quote there? what's their fault who are killed? worshiping? or is it God only who does that to help india out with population?
Enjoy~!
Sarath
iDota
God will exist till science makes a little more progress.
I keep wondering a world full of aetheists would suck. Religion runs on "Unexplained scientific phenomenon" and "Early childhood brainwashing" (something like ROM, cannot/impossible to erase) but then no more festivals. That would suck.
I keep wondering a world full of aetheists would suck. Religion runs on "Unexplained scientific phenomenon" and "Early childhood brainwashing" (something like ROM, cannot/impossible to erase) but then no more festivals. That would suck.
sygeek
Technomancer
Our reality is pretty much different from God's. Miracles and such accidents are pretty much equal to God. Most of the time our thinking is falsified that God is all loving and will save you from all the troubles.
Yes, he is. But not in our reality, not in our falsified reality. Imagine praying for someone at his deathbed but he still dies. You lose faith, because God killed that guy despite you praying for him.
What some people don't understand is that, God has to treat the world has a whole for the betterment of everyone. If some people die, it may be for the better of the rest of the society. When relatives die, someone who is close to you, its to create the balance in nature while at the same time taking the person's deeds and other stuff as a factor. But it is not necessarily applicable for the cause of HIS good all the time.
If you imagine someone as complex as God who looks over us, will he save a few people from an accident, if they're a cause of a major accident in the future OR if they will affect the divine plan, in some way or the other. And, if there were no accidents, we would be dying of overpopulation sooner than the where our current race is going.
Miracles and accidents are pretty much the same.
@Speedyguy:
Didn't I write what you just said?
How will he? He does not exist.
@sygeek:If everything is predetermined, then you are suggesting intelligent design. Clearly that falsifies the theory of evolution, where Natural selection is suggested, which is random.
People do not die because god decided so. They die because of events around them.
I could shoot you and you may or may not die. It depends on where the damage occurs i.e. where the bullet hits, which depends on external factors, like distance, aim, weapon stability, wind, humidity, Coriolis effect, thermals, elevation difference, gravity; the amount of bullet penetration, which depends on force of the bullet, distance, air resistance, body resistance to name a few. These factors vary every second, and themselves are dependent on each other and other factors, which ma or may not depend on even more factors.
See where I am getting? It is random. Probabilities is a well established field of mathematics. The concept itself defies the existence of god.
Didn't I write what you just said?
How will he? He does not exist.
@sygeek:If everything is predetermined, then you are suggesting intelligent design. Clearly that falsifies the theory of evolution, where Natural selection is suggested, which is random.
People do not die because god decided so. They die because of events around them.
I could shoot you and you may or may not die. It depends on where the damage occurs i.e. where the bullet hits, which depends on external factors, like distance, aim, weapon stability, wind, humidity, Coriolis effect, thermals, elevation difference, gravity; the amount of bullet penetration, which depends on force of the bullet, distance, air resistance, body resistance to name a few. These factors vary every second, and themselves are dependent on each other and other factors, which ma or may not depend on even more factors.
See where I am getting? It is random. Probabilities is a well established field of mathematics. The concept itself defies the existence of god.
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sygeek
Technomancer
Even though this is sarcastic, it's true. Just like the TDF mods, God is not answerable to you, because our reality is highly falsified and it's pretty much dynamic at times. But the true reality (the one which we haven't discovered yet) is pretty much God's reality.
Note: I'm using the "technical" term of reality, not the everyday usage word.
Sarath
iDota
Hey mods here do answer. They obviously let you know why you are getting screwed by them
If God does exist then I am sure he is busy somewhere else minting new planets.
I am surprised at how people treat God. Worship and pamper at first like a superior being. Then order around, save my relative, save my exam paper (most common one
), save people, don't cause quakes. Its like a child who never grows up. All your life instead of doing good to you and humanity in general, you keep praising and praying, while completely laying waste the life that has been given to you.
rhitwick
Democracy is a myth
Sometimes I wonder should we have law and order at all?!!!
God is doing everything. God knows everything and if some one gets killed, robbed or raped today that must have some bigger role.
Like some other person not getting killed, not robbed or raped. That some other person must have been very close to God, very dear and important. So he/she has to live in expense of this poor soul's life and dignity.
Sometimes, I wonder (I wonder too much you see!) if all the theists look back on the logics they put to explain an incident in favor of God.
God is doing everything. God knows everything and if some one gets killed, robbed or raped today that must have some bigger role.
Like some other person not getting killed, not robbed or raped. That some other person must have been very close to God, very dear and important. So he/she has to live in expense of this poor soul's life and dignity.
Sometimes, I wonder (I wonder too much you see!) if all the theists look back on the logics they put to explain an incident in favor of God.