Nokia versus Sony Ericsson

[faraaz]

@speedyguy: Dude...640x480 rez video is dvd quality...you know that right??

 

[thelordrrulzzz]

I don't agree with people saying Nokia is the best because there's lots from the Sony Ericcson as well. This is because Nokia has got the largest range as mentioned before along with other things as well but SE is not too behind Nokia.
I have myself have used a Nokia6600 for about one and a half year and have come to the conclusion that Nokia no matter what lacks in terms of stability, Virus protection (remember the cabir virus scandal), easy availability of cheap software etc. All this concludes just one thing that Nokia though a front runner actually is not the best one can have.
Another point of discussion is the new clan of Nokia phones being launched with much publicity still lack the lustre to attract quite a people. *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/104.gif. Secondly even though Nokia claims to have improved sound & camera quality the truth is they have just improved the loudness and not the clearity. As for the camera section it is of no competition to that of SE phones.
All the SE phones features i realized after switchin over to a Sony Ericcson W810i. Its just one in all feature loaded phone *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/77.gif.
So final conclusion from me is that Nokia SUCKSSS *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/112.gif!!!! and Sony Ericcson RULZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/16.gif.

 

[faraaz]

Umm...fanboy much? Dude...source please! Your opinion doesn't count!

 

[krazzy]

Another point of discussion is the new clan of Nokia phones being launched with much publicity still lack the lustre to attract quite a people. *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/104.gif. Secondly even though Nokia claims to have improved sound & camera quality the truth is they have just improved the loudness and not the clearity. As for the camera section it is of no competition to that of SE phones.

So final conclusion from me is that Nokia SUCKSSS *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/112.gif!!!! and Sony Ericcson RULZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/16.gif.

1. Yeah right!

2. No Clearity, is it. Tell me, do you know about RMAA tests and their results being available on many review sites nowadays? These tests are solid proof of the sound quality of the latest Nokia phones. That is what I prefer to trust and believe, instead of the rants of some fanboy.

3. Ok you have eyes don't you. So open them to their full extent, go to GSMArena and check out the results of their latest 5mpix camera phone comparison test. All the other 3 phones beat the crap out of K850i. And they haven't even included N82 or G800 which are even better. It is SE here which is totally outclassed here.
4. Whatever!

Next time do your homework before ranting.

I wanted to stay away from this fight. I didn't want to blow Nokia's trumpet or flame SE, cause i'm neither Nokia fanboy nor SE hater. But the amount of noobism and fanboyism have gone out of control. So i had to step in to clear the facts and kick some fanboy butt!

 

[speedyguy]

k dude...i agree they hv launched tv out compatible phones on 640*480 @ 30fps....now checkout discussion forum in nokia.com - tons of complains regarding video recording in n90, n95 n all....at times thr r garbaging of audio to video ratio or at times poor framerate or poor quality....iv seen their dvd quality recording(as u say)...n dunno how they really sed 2 b dvd quality..cmon....its good but if really a 15-20k mobile gives u a dvd quality video rec then we r at closure of handycams wich costs more isnt it....mobiles can neva come close handycams coz they dont hv dedicated recording capabilities since they r bundled wit tons other stuffs...even picture quality is not that good compared to digicams but tats not much diff so ppl do count on it...

@faraaz: if u burn a svcd at 320*240 res then also u get a decent vision on tv play but tats not d point here.....is it? my vga cell supports picture res upto 1280*960 wich nokia's vga cant even dream of...that dosnt mean it competes megapixel digis....ts still vga only

@krazyfrog: i agree wit u on d walkman point....they r workin on their application n soft upgrade but xm hv modified their sound chips n hv taken over since recent past....hope 2 hv walkman hardware upgrade soon 2 join back d compition but fr now xm is d news.

abt battery life...move out of ur house goto nokia vendor n ask him number f complains abt batteries in nokia or u may simply google abt issues....i had k300i wit media player, infra n cam n all it ran double than n6600, n6060 n even slightly lower ends frm nok....my bro bought n3230 n just gave up his phn for bad battery....my roomates hv n72 and n90...they hardly manage to work for a day.

n ya abt viruses....u r one of lakhs whom iv seen free frm virus witout an antivirus in symbian....it all startd wit 6600 n so on....nokia is well known fr being most vulnerable to security threats coz of its symbian capability...u talkin abt ngage...i bet ngage n 6600 whr at a time leaders of corrupt software issues....dun only read reviews...they try 2 point out positives....go by technical issues forums whr experienced ppl discuss their problems...its countless for nok...ex - *forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=63679
so dear if while browsing or transferring frm bluetooth if u get a virus from external source then even if u say -"About viruses, first one should learn to be a responsible user, then complain about viruses" that wont help u out...n ya dunt challenge a virus..they r smarter than us....

now for portability....lets compare....i use my laptop u use ur smartphone for reading a pdf...lets c who is fast n more comfortable...get it...n u may do it...but i wont prefer using my smartphone while sitting in toilet straining 2 read a pdf on a small n slow interface....talk sense....u didnt get wat i was pointing

Enjoy~!

 

[expertno.1]

n ya abt viruses....u r one of lakhs whom iv seen free frm virus witout an antivirus in symbian....it all startd wit 6600 n so on....nokia is well known fr being most vulnerable to security threats coz of its symbian capability...u talkin abt ngage...i bet ngage n 6600 whr at a time leaders of corrupt software issues....dun only read reviews...they try 2 point out positives....go by technical issues forums whr experienced ppl discuss their problems...its countless for nok...ex - *forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=63679
so dear if while browsing or transferring frm bluetooth if u get a virus from external source then even if u say -"About viruses, first one should learn to be a responsible user, then complain about viruses" that wont help u out...n ya dunt challenge a virus..they r smarter than us....

Dude.....
Me too have been using N70 from last 2 years without any antivirus and i am the stuff freak....lots and lots of stuff are there in ma mobile ...presently more than 50 softwares.......without antivirus

and have never faced any virus problem or whatsoever in last 2 years....

"About viruses, first one should learn to be a responsible user, then complain about viruses" i agree with this statement .

now for portability....lets compare....i use my laptop u use ur smartphone for reading a pdf...lets c who is fast n more comfortable...get it...n u may do it...but i wont prefer using my smartphone while sitting in toilet straining 2 read a pdf on a small n slow interface....talk sense....u didnt get wat i was pointing

Enjoy~!

Dude your laptop will not make you receive calls in toilet .....besides laptop is a whole different thing.....i cant borrow a lappy to toilet .....
.....and i am sure that you have one mobile phone too .......so talk about mobile bhai......not a 14 inch screen device.....


Thanks
Regards.....
Expertno.1

 

[ambar.hitman]

All i can say is symbian beats java anyday. If u want good music,get an ipod; if u want good cam,get handycam. If u want apps,get laptop. But if u want a multimedia device with computing capabilities,get Nokia. I simply cant live without my N70. The endless possibilities it provides via 100s of softwares is fantastic.

 

[expertno.1]

THE REAL thing is that sony ericsson is only famous for its looks and music in value for money and NOTHING else ......

but now Nokia has entered in these regions and has taken control over it ....

So prefer Nokia


Thanks
Regards.....
Expertno.1

 

[krazzy]

k dude...i agree they hv launched tv out compatible phones on 640*480 @ 30fps....now checkout discussion forum in nokia.com - tons of complains regarding video recording in n90, n95 n all....at times thr r garbaging of audio to video ratio or at times poor framerate or poor quality....iv seen their dvd quality recording(as u say)...n dunno how they really sed 2 b dvd quality..cmon....its good but if really a 15-20k mobile gives u a dvd quality video rec then we r at closure of handycams wich costs more isnt it....mobiles can neva come close handycams coz they dont hv dedicated recording capabilities since they r bundled wit tons other stuffs...even picture quality is not that good compared to digicams but tats not much diff so ppl do count on it...

Forget the DVD quality claim. Don't you atleast agree to the fact that watching a 640x480 res video @ 30 fps (which is what Nokia offers) would be better than 320x240 2 30 fps (which is what SE offers at present)? Plus Nokia even gives you the option of watching it on a TV screen, which IMO is infinitely better than watching on a phone screen. Obviously the quality is much worse compared to a Handycam, but its still the best that you can get in a mobile phone at present.

my vga cell supports picture res upto 1280*960 wich nokia's vga cant even dream of...that dosnt mean it competes megapixel digis....ts still vga only

That isn't true megapixel image you get there. Your camera is capturing the image in VGA and then interpolating it to megapixel. That by no means is a mighty achievement or something to shout about. Everyone knows how crappy interpolated images are and how one should avoid it like plague.

abt battery life...move out of ur house goto nokia vendor n ask him number f complains abt batteries in nokia or u may simply google abt issues....i had k300i wit media player, infra n cam n all it ran double than n6600, n6060 n even slightly lower ends frm nok....my bro bought n3230 n just gave up his phn for bad battery....my roomates hv n72 and n90...they hardly manage to work for a day.

If you use your phone heavily, its bound to give you low battery life. I own a W710i which sometimes I charge twice a day because I use it heavily, but you don't see me complaining. Sometimes when I don't use it much it lasts for two whole days. So it all boils down to usage, not the OS it runs on.

dun only read reviews...they try 2 point out positives....go by technical issues forums whr experienced ppl discuss their problems...its countless for nokia

Why should I read others problems when I myself owned the device for more than a year and had no problems with it?

so dear if while browsing or transferring frm bluetooth if u get a virus from external source then even if u say -"About viruses, first one should learn to be a responsible user, then complain about viruses" that wont help u out...n ya dunt challenge a virus..they r smarter than us....

Yeah right, Viruses were the ones to invent Human Beings so we should all fear them and consider them smarter. No wait, isn't it the other way around...

now for portability....lets compare....i use my laptop u use ur smartphone for reading a pdf...lets c who is fast n more comfortable...get it...n u may do it...but i wont prefer using my smartphone while sitting in toilet straining 2 read a pdf on a small n slow interface....talk sense....u didnt get wat i was pointing

Its not about being fast or comfortable. Its about the convenience of carrying the devices at a lot more places where you could not take your laptop, but you can take your phone. The very fact that I can read my pdfs at a place like toilet (not that I would, just giving an example) is enough for me. Thats the reason we use mobile phones in the first place, don't we? The landlines are much cheaper and offer better call quality, but can we take them everywhere? No. We use cell phones. That was my point, which YOU missed.

(Replying to your post has made me feel I've grown a year old)

 

[Pathik]

^^ Reading it made me two years older.

BTW Fanboyism wont harm the company. It ll only harm you.

@faraaz: if u burn a svcd at 320*240 res then also u get a decent vision on tv play but tats not d point here.....is it? my vga cell supports picture res upto 1280*960 wich nokia's vga cant even dream of...that dosnt mean it competes megapixel digis....ts still vga only

But it is still better than any SE celll, Isn't it?

 

[faraaz]

^^ - True dat...what Nokia video does to Sony we call pwning...hell, the only way SE can beat Nokia at video is if they start bundling their handy cams free with the mobile!

 

[ambar.hitman]

Abe pathik after reading this entire topic, i realised that people here dont like symbian coz it can get virus. What noobness,rofl. One guy even mentioned that symbian is for old people.OMFG, this is a noob breeding place.

 

[Pathik]

Hehe. Dont be disillusioned by this topic. There are many good & sane people in this forum and this topic too . (BTW good to see u here.)

 

[ambar.hitman]

Abe pathik after reading this entire topic, i realised that people here dont like symbian coz it can get virus. What noobness,rofl. One guy even mentioned that symbian is for old people.OMFG, this is a noob breeding place.

 

[Cool G5]

lol.
Agree.
I too am a symbian freak & once again i would say it's a great os & i havent encountered any virus till date.

 

[speedyguy]

k fine now heres my exp....had t105 wich acually has nuttin other than calling so no issues...then bought 3220 for cam whr i cudnt recognise myself from its pic...then took 6600 for 13k...1 mnths aftr my real player stopped responding n stated some formatting error bla bla...soon other softwares had same n even slowed d already slow cell furthur down....went 2 dealer her said will format my cell coz it has virus....i lost all my pics n msges in hurry...then worked fine fr somtime but aftr tons of bluetooth exchnge n datacable usage frm diff systems turned to even worse state...i disposed it then bought 7610(megapixel)....was excited abt its camera but soon suffered similar problems....i screamed at nokia dealers they sed dunt use bluetooth or datacables at risky areas....now if i dunt wat hell is it given for...n how do i determine safety of a region....i just stopped using it but didnt dispose it....my bro gave me 3230....which was again gud at time but then came battery life issue.....plus its sound su##ed big time....finlly i got k300i whose price was almost half to them but sound n cam was tons better than all above...plus peace of mind wit no virus, no soft issue...i can browse, listen 2 music, take ok sort of pictures n access my cell very swiftly....coz of its low mem i changed it 2 n72 (current) whose sound is fine but again damn slowwwwwwwww.....had 2 format once not coz of virus but simply it was slow...dealer sed iv bundled it too much.....newez

expertno.1:
"THE REAL thing is that sony ericsson is only famous for its looks and music in value for money and NOTHING else ......
"

add cam to...sir wat else u want frm a poor little phone...

krazyfrog:
"Yeah right, Viruses were the ones to invent Human Beings so we should all fear them and consider them smarter. No wait, isn't it the other way around..."

humans invented nuclear...so it means if its abt 2 blow on us we shud not fear or do anything abt it just coz we only invented it...cant harm us...rite?
wen u get actually blown ur system or cell wit virus...for u it will turn around...

krazyfrog:
"That isn't true megapixel image you get there. Your camera is capturing the image in VGA and then interpolating it to megapixel. That by no means is a mighty achievement or something to shout about. Everyone knows how crappy interpolated images are and how one should avoid it like plague."

well some guys still gettin me wrong...for now...i do agree to it dat n95 has got better cam n xm crossed se...infact i am a nok user...but m jst discoussing to number f problems iv faced wit nokia...i was very happy wit k300 wit nice sound, cam(for vga atleast) n usability

ps: this thread should be shifted 2 fight club i guess.

Enjoy~!

 

[Pathik]

k fine now heres my exp....had t105 wich acually has nuttin other than calling so no issues...then bought 3220 for cam whr i cudnt recognise myself from its pic...then took 6600 for 13k...1 mnths aftr my real player stopped responding n stated some formatting error bla bla...soon other softwares had same n even slowed d already slow cell furthur down....went 2 dealer her said will format my cell coz it has virus....i lost all my pics n msges in hurry...then worked fine fr somtime but aftr tons of bluetooth exchnge n datacable usage frm diff systems turned to even worse state...i disposed it then bought 7610(megapixel)....was excited abt its camera but soon suffered similar problems....i screamed at nokia dealers they sed dunt use bluetooth or datacables at risky areas....now if i dunt wat hell is it given for...n how do i determine safety of a region....i just stopped using it but didnt dispose it....my bro gave me 3230....which was again gud at time but then came battery life issue.....plus its sound su##ed big time....finlly i got k300i whose price was almost half to them but sound n cam was tons better than all above...plus peace of mind wit no virus, no soft issue...i can browse, listen 2 music, take ok sort of pictures n access my cell very swiftly....coz of its low mem i changed it 2 n72 (current) whose sound is fine but again damn slowwwwwwwww.....had 2 format once not coz of virus but simply it was slow...dealer sed iv bundled it too much.....newez

expertno.1:
"THE REAL thing is that sony ericsson is only famous for its looks and music in value for money and NOTHING else ......
"

add cam to...sir wat else u want frm a poor little phone...

krazyfrog:
"Yeah right, Viruses were the ones to invent Human Beings so we should all fear them and consider them smarter. No wait, isn't it the other way around..."

humans invented nuclear...so it means if its abt 2 blow on us we shud not fear or do anything abt it just coz we only invented it...cant harm us...rite?
wen u get actually blown ur system or cell wit virus...for u it will turn around...

krazyfrog:
"That isn't true megapixel image you get there. Your camera is capturing the image in VGA and then interpolating it to megapixel. That by no means is a mighty achievement or something to shout about. Everyone knows how crappy interpolated images are and how one should avoid it like plague."

i know ts not an mp to get me an mp image...iv given an example for an interpolated image wich shoud be avoided like plague....take a look

@pathiks:
is it better than nokia....take a look urself
these pics taken at same time at same place wit single person

*img144.imageshack.us/img144/1841/sek300itv7.th.jpg
K300i (VGA) Rs. 4.7k

*img124.imageshack.us/img124/3333/nokia6600ef1.th.jpg
N6600 (VGA) Rs. 8k (approx)

well some guys still gettin me wrong...for now...i do agree to it dat n95 has got better cam n xm crossed se...infact i am a nok user...but m jst discoussing to number f problems iv faced wit nokia...i was very happy wit k300 wit nice sound, cam(for vga atleast) n usability

ps: this thread should be shifted 2 fight club i guess.

Enjoy~!

1st of all, Cute baby.
Ok agreed that Nokia 6600's cam quality sucked before a k300i.
BTW there was a blur in the 6600 pic. So i suppose your hand wasnt stable wen taking the snap.
Also compare any 2mp fones from nokia and SE in the same price range now.
And also y do u always compare VGA fones wen it comes to Cam.?

 

[krazzy]

I'll just say two things:
1. I used all the Nokia phones you mentioned and didn't face any problems with them. Ever.

2. Don't believe what Nokia Service Centre people say. They are the last people in the world that know anything right about Nokia phones. I guess Nokia only hires people who don't know anything about Nokia phones as Service Centre employees. Take any Nokia smartphone with any problem, and their solution would be to format the phone. Jerks.

And about nuclear bombs, its totally different from viruses. Current viruses don't yet blow up your phone. Atleast I haven't seen a mushroom cloud above the house of a person with an infected smartphone.

 

[ambar.hitman]

One thing i have noticed on every forum is that every now and then, a new sony ericsson user pops up asking for avi player for his mobile. And when he realises the harsh truth,he goes blah blah over how excellent the sound quality is and how he doesnt worry about viruses and sh1t. Deep inside,he knows what he is missing. I just cant think of a phone used just to play songs and take pics. I havent listened to any song on my n70 since one month. All i do is browse 2-3 sites at once, download and watch full mobile movies,use symella(p2p client),play GBA games(yes,theres a Game Boy Advance emulator),read my training documents,use im+,stream live movies without lag etc etc. All at the same cost of a so called walkman phone.

 

[Indyan]

I voted SE because :-
i) Better interface
ii) More features
iii) Better pricing
iv) Better looks

Nokia has a slightly better build quality but SE isnt bad either.