HTC One Thread

[randomuser111]

True, which is why it seems SIV will use Qualcomm S600.

Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos

 

[marvelousprashant]

Rumors strongly suggest this. The exynos 5 octa has 4 x A15 cores and 4 x A7 cores. A7 has performance comparable to dual core A9 but consumes half as much battery as A9. A7 can handle light weight tasks easily and effectively. For CPU intensive tasks, the kernel will switch to A15 cores

Some rumors and leaked benchmarks suggest that S4 may have 1.9ghz snapdragon 600 SoC. However Samsung is known to put different SoCs in US and international versions.

 

[Hrishi]

Re: HTC One with 4.7" 1080p screen, 1.7GHz Krait 300 processor

True, which is why it seems SIV will use Qualcomm S600.

Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos

Haha , they developed a SoC that is powerful enough , not to fit inside their phone. So they have to buy it from someone else.

Rumors strongly suggest this. The exynos 5 octa has 4 x A15 cores and 4 x A7 cores. A7 has performance comparable to dual core A9 but consumes half as much battery as A9. A7 can handle light weight tasks easily and effectively. For CPU intensive tasks, the kernel will switch to A15 cores

Source Please.
But if that happens , it'll become even more expensive and most people are not even gonna use the A15 cores.
Also what about the delays involved while switching CPUs ??

 

[marvelousprashant]

Samsung Galaxy S4 allegedly spotted in benchmark tests, has 1.8GHz Exynos 5 Octa 8-core processor - Pocket-lint

It is an old rumor though (probably fake). New rumors suggest Qualcomm 600 only.

 

[nikufellow]

Yup the snapdragon 600 will most likely be it An overclocked 600 will help them edge out htc in benchmarks and usual removable battery + micro sd slot + a few touchwiz gimmicks could be all that they need fool reviewers .

 

[tkin]

Re: HTC One with 4.7" 1080p screen, 1.7GHz Krait 300 processor

Haha , they developed a SoC that is powerful enough , not to fit inside their phone. So they have to buy it from someone else.


Source Please.
But if that happens , it'll become even more expensive and most people are not even gonna use the A15 cores.
Also what about the delays involved while switching CPUs ??

Instantaneous, Tegra 3 and 4, check them.

Yup the snapdragon 600 will most likely be it An overclocked 600 will help them edge out htc in benchmarks and usual removable battery + micro sd slot + a few touchwiz gimmicks could be all that they need fool reviewers .

At least it will be priced reasonably, talk about HTC pricing

 

[nikufellow]

Re: HTC One with 4.7" 1080p screen, 1.7GHz Krait 300 processor

At least it will be priced reasonably, talk about HTC pricing

lets wait and see

 

[marvelousprashant]

Regarding delay in switching b/w A7 and A15 it is 20millisecons

An important consideration of a big.LITTLE system is the time it takes to migrate a task between the Cortex-A15 cluster and the Cortex-A7 cluster. If it takes too long then it may become noticeable to the operating system and the system power may outweigh the benefit of task migration for some time. Therefore, the Cortex-A15-Cortex-A7 system is designed to migrate in less than 20,000-cycles, or 20- microSeconds with processors operating at 1GHz.

big.LITTLE is the name of ARM architecture that is being used by Samsung in Exynos 5. Too bad we wont see it in SGS4.

This is different from Tegra3. The 5th core in tegra 3 is hidden from OS and CPU allocates light weight tasks to it.
In Exynos Octa, switching is controlled by Android kernel

 

[randomuser111]

They might implement it in Note 3 as the huge chassis will allow it to manage the excess heat from the exynos octa chip.

Anyway, Xperia Z and ZL will also be upgraded to s600 chip by Q2 as qualcomm is discontinuing apq8064 s4 pro chip. All phones using s4 pro quad that will remain in production through Q2 will need to switch to s600. It doesnt require any changes whatsoever, fully compatible with s4 pro quad phones.

 

[tkin]

They might implement it in Note 3 as the huge chassis will allow it to manage the excess heat from the exynos octa chip.

Anyway, Xperia Z and ZL will also be upgraded to s600 chip by Q2 as qualcomm is discontinuing apq8064 s4 pro chip. All phones using s4 pro quad that will remain in production through Q2 will need to switch to s600. It doesnt require any changes whatsoever, fully compatible with s4 pro quad phones.

Then why buy a phone(Z/ZL) which will be outdated in 6 months

 

[nikufellow]

Then why buy a phone(Z/ZL) which will be outdated in 6 months

it won't be outdated - its just that it won't the 'beast' thing anymore !

 

[tkin]

it won't be outdated - its just that it won't the 'beast' thing anymore !

That's what I mean, like this, you pay 30k+ for SGS II, you have the flagship for over an year, same with SGS III, or Note or Note III, or S/SL, One S if you invest on such a device you get flagship for an year, you buy Z/ZL you lose flagship status within 6 months, that's not fair man.

 

[randomuser111]

Well if you care about 10-20% better benchmarks yes u shouldn't buy

Anyhow I personally dont care about on paper slightly better performance, so I have no issue spending money on 'outdated' Z

 

[tkin]

Well if you care about 10-20% better benchmarks yes u shouldn't buy

Anyhow I personally dont care about on paper slightly better performance, so I have no issue spending money on 'outdated' Z

Aren't you the one who was just highlighting how the Z is about 20% faster than Nexus 4 in the other thread? Just now? Just saying

 

[marvelousprashant]

Benchmarks do matter. It doesn't matter in high end devices because they wont be utilized fully. It is like discussing GTX680 SLI vs GTX690 while playing Battlefield on 1080p monitor only.

 

[tkin]

Benchmarks do matter. It doesn't matter in high end devices because they wont be utilized fully. It is like discussing GTX680 SLI vs GTX690 while playing Battlefield on 1080p monitor only.

In that case how come the Nexus 4 being about 20% slower is a bad choice against the Z Or Optimus G? Or any krait device?

 

[randomuser111]

Aren't you the one who was just highlighting how the Z is about 20% faster than Nexus 4 in the other thread? Just now? Just saying

Well you actually took it wrongly. I was only replying to rider as he posted a pic showing difference between z and one benchmark and there wasn't a z there at all but only N4. So I merely pointed out the fact that N4 and Z scores are very different

 

[marvelousprashant]

In that case how come the Nexus 4 being about 20% slower is a bad choice against the Z Or Optimus G? Or any krait device?

1080p screen vs faster updates. Choice is yours. A lot of things depend upon software optimization too. Like Note 2 has better RAM management and better multitasking than Nexus 4

 

[nikufellow]

That's what I mean, like this, you pay 30k+ for SGS II, you have the flagship for over an year, same with SGS III, or Note or Note III, or S/SL, One S if you invest on such a device you get flagship for an year, you buy Z/ZL you lose flagship status within 6 months, that's not fair man.

well they can't sit doing nothing one already beats z in benchmarks and s4 is bound to beat it too , they'll have to ensure that something they've put so much effort into doesn't go impact less because it losses out on a few benchmark points .

 

[marvelousprashant]

^they can reduce price. It is the most important benchmark from end user PoV.