Basic Guide Purchase a New System

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topgear

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@ guru_urug - If you are going for a new rig then no point in going for DDR2 - get a mobo which supports DDR3.

Get a quad core proc - it's just great for multitasking and you will get good performance nenifit in the app like photoshop and aftereffects.

9400GT is a very weak card and HD4830 is very good performer card and there price also differes a lot.

For a decent GPU with CUDA ( Adobe Creative Suite 5 supports CUDA ) support get one gfx card from Nvidia.

BTW, mention your budget first as piyush has already asked - then we will be able to recommend appropriate components for you.
 
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sshakehar

Right off the assembly line
I am planning to buy a new machine and dispose off my old one ,
this is the config of my exisiting pc
Processor : P4 (prescott) 3.06 Ghz
Mobo : AsusTek P5GD2-TMX Intel Chipset 915
HDD 120 Gb SATA
Optical Drive : LG 8x DVD writer
Monitor: 15 inch LCD (HCL)
Ram : 512 Mb X 2 + 1Gb X 1 133Mhz

i was wondering how much would i get for this
and the config i am going for is
:
1.iball International designer Baby 207 Computer Case With 400W PSU
2.Cooler Master 90 CFM 19DBA R4-L2R-20CGF-GP 120mm Green LED Fan
3.Dell E1909W 19 inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor***
4.Sony AD-7260S-ZR SATA DVD Writer
5.Western Digital Caviar Green 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD5000AADS SATA Hard Drive
6.Palit NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 Graphics Card
7.Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 Motherboard
8.AMD Phenom ll X4 925 Processor
9.GSKILL 2GB DDR3 1333MHz F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT Desktop Memory x2

this setup is costing me somewhere around 32 K
any suggestions , comments regarding this config ?
 

jayantr7

In the zone
SORRY FOR POSTING HERE BUT I CAN"T MAKE A NEW THREAD DUE TO SOME PROBLEM

Buying an Assembled PC for Rs.70k

Within 70k,I want a good assembled desktop.

No need of telling about mouse,keyboard,speakers.But do about Monitor.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A:High end Gaming,Adobe products[also Premiere],Other normal uses

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: I can't figure out what it's about.

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: Rs.70k

4. Planning to overclock?
A: No.I'll just try it

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: Windows 7 Ultimate or any other[7 only].What's it's cost?

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 1TB
7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
A: Not sure but a good for my Graphics Card

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 5-6

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: No

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: Within 1-1.5 month

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: Yes.For at least 4 years

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Keyboard,Mouse,Speakers

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: Jamshedpur[Jharkhand].I may order products if something is not available


Other things to consider or I have to ask:-

* I've never seen any PC being assembled.So do tell me some important points it.
* I am mostly confused about the processor[Intel or AMD] and RAM[4 or 6 GB?]
* My choice->Radeon HD 5850..Anything other?
* Please consider a good UPS which can keep up my PC for 1hr in the case of a power cut.

I guess I've made myself clear.Please help me
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
I am planning to buy a new machine and dispose off my old one ,
this is the config of my exisiting pc
Processor : P4 (prescott) 3.06 Ghz
Mobo : AsusTek P5GD2-TMX Intel Chipset 915
HDD 120 Gb SATA
Optical Drive : LG 8x DVD writer
Monitor: 15 inch LCD (HCL)
Ram : 512 Mb X 2 + 1Gb X 1 133Mhz

not more than 4k.

1.iball International designer Baby 207 Computer Case With 400W PSU

for its price much better cabby available & also the bundled power supply good for firework. consider Cooler Master 310 + FSP Saga II 350-400W. or look out for Gigabyte 400-460W. if none of these available, try get your hands on VIP Gold.

3.Dell E1909W 19 inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor***

get a 20" monitor from Benq/Samsung. will cost same but bigger screen (& higher resolution which matter more)

5.Western Digital Caviar Green 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD5000AADS SATA Hard Drive

try avoid Green. its a bit slower. though until you have a fast system, you won't notice much difference but still better stay away until its not your 2nd storage medium i.e. you have another HDD as your primary one.

6.Palit NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 Graphics Card

2 important things:

1. AVOID PALIT AT ALL COST.

2. try get your hands on HD5670 512Mb/1Gb. or wait a month, GTS450 will be available for around same price as HD5670 1Gb freely (currently its yet to be launched so taking 1 month i think is safe bet)

7.Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 Motherboard

don't get this board. it have many many limitations. fast processor can't work at full potential. spend a little more & get Biostar TA785G3 or its next version, TA785G3 HD. can settle for Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H/GA-MA880GM-UD2H.

8.AMD Phenom ll X4 925 Processor

get Athlon II X3 or X4 & save a couple of thousand bucks (use that money in getting a better PSU instead).

9.GSKILL 2GB DDR3 1333MHz F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT Desktop Memory x2

if your don't involve animation or creativity or virtualization, 2Gb looks to be good for now.

Intex 400W.

better change it. you don't wish loose your new system due to a crappy PSU. will you?
 
^^ a good budget for a decent PC, in while experts would add their comments and suggestions suitable for your needs,

just a point from my side a UPS for 1 hr back for your pc would consume your 1/3 budget, its a over exaggerated demand............ think on it.:)
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
I am planning to buy a new machine and dispose off my old one ,
this is the config of my exisiting pc
Processor : P4 (prescott) 3.06 Ghz
Mobo : AsusTek P5GD2-TMX Intel Chipset 915
HDD 120 Gb SATA
Optical Drive : LG 8x DVD writer
Monitor: 15 inch LCD (HCL)
Ram : 512 Mb X 2 + 1Gb X 1 133Mhz

i was wondering how much would i get for this
and the config i am going for is
:
1.iball International designer Baby 207 Computer Case With 400W PSU
2.Cooler Master 90 CFM 19DBA R4-L2R-20CGF-GP 120mm Green LED Fan
3.Dell E1909W 19 inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor***
4.Sony AD-7260S-ZR SATA DVD Writer
5.Western Digital Caviar Green 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD5000AADS SATA Hard Drive
6.Palit NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 Graphics Card
7.Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 Motherboard
8.AMD Phenom ll X4 925 Processor
9.GSKILL 2GB DDR3 1333MHz F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT Desktop Memory x2

this setup is costing me somewhere around 32 K
any suggestions , comments regarding this config ?

Please mention your budget. Then we can suggest a better config. Some of our components are not up to date even within the price range.
 

cau8ery

Right off the assembly line
better change it. you don't wish loose your new system due to a crappy PSU. will you?[/QUOTE]


Yeah.
Any suggestions?

1. Is it better to stick to Intel (C2D) or AMD (Power consumption and Heating issues - the ambient temperature is pretty bad here!)

2. If core 2 duo or AMD, what mobo would you recommend for ~ 5 to 7 K?

3. GPU recommendation: I seem to be stuck 'tween HD 5750 and the GT40 (Palit 9600GT's out of the window, thanx to this forum!)
 

ssb1551

Technomancer
Hi guys planning to buy a new rig(CPU+Motherboard+PSU)
I hv an Athlon X2 4400+ CPU, Asus M2NMX SE Motherboard,2GB Zion DDR2 800MHz RAM.1TB Seagate n 500GB Seagate HDD,ATI Radeon HD 4650 IGB,LG 20" Monitor,some intex(a.k.a el cheapo) 450W PSU n APC 550 UPS.
My PSU went kaput e few hours bk.I'm thinking of going for a new rig(Procc+MoBo+PSU).I have decided on a few too :
Procc - AMD Athlon II X4 635/630(depends on availability) OR AMD Phenom II X4 955 B.E(945 will also do)
Motherboard - Asus M4N68M OR MSI GF615M-P33 OR Biostar A780L3 OR Biostar MCP6P3
PSU - Dunno wat wud be a good PSU.
Earlier I hadn't taken the PSU cost in my budget but now that it went kaboom gotta include that too.I can spend 15Gs tops.The MSI n Biostar MoBo I'm looking for supports 800/1066/1333 memory n AM3 socket.I dunno whether the 2 processor I've chosen will run on my DDR2 800Mhz memory.So can anyone plz temme whether it'll or not?Coz not going for DDR3 1333 will save me 2.6K.Also I have no idea about a good PSU so can anyone plz suggest one?
Sorry I forgot to post the purpose of my rig.I watch a lotta 720p movies n shows on my system.Also I encode a few video files using x264 codec by Xvid4PSP.My current rig can't last the 2passes for x264 encode coz the CPU temp go upto 95-100 degrees C n then it shuts down.Also during the conversion(usually during the 2nd pass,in which my system shuts down) system becomes almost unusable.So should I go for Athlon II X4 635/630 or Phenom II X4 955/945(which has 6mb of L3 cache)?
 
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coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Yeah.
Any suggestions?

1. Is it better to stick to Intel (C2D) or AMD (Power consumption and Heating issues - the ambient temperature is pretty bad here!)

2. If core 2 duo or AMD, what mobo would you recommend for ~ 5 to 7 K?

3. GPU recommendation: I seem to be stuck 'tween HD 5750 and the GT40 (Palit 9600GT's out of the window, thanx to this forum!)

get a branded good PSU. FSP Saga II 350W/Gigabyte 400W will suffice for HD5670 or can go a bit higher. if you unable find this PSU locally, better order it online (from IT Wares, Media Home or Lynx India).

1. heating issue & power consumption thing are part of history now. if you going get new proccy, get Core i3 or AMD Athlon II X3/x4. until & unless you use your system for encoding, Athlon II carries lot more value as its cheaper than Intel (& AMD Phenom II series) also the motherboard price is really low compared to Intel. add to it, usually the upgrade path is open. Intel will bring new socket to market soon (means current i3/i5 won't be supported after 2010).

2. For Intel, get P55 based board from MSI/Gigabyte. skip Asus (considering you'll purchase a graphics card with the system) else get H55 based board. cost around 5-7k. For AMD, get Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H/MA880GM-UD2H or Biostar TA785G3 HD. skip Asus board. they offer extra problem (read sound, ram, graphics problem). Cost below 4.5k for all.

3. i'll simply suggest wait a month. GTS450 will appear on market. get one for price of HD5750 & see it thrashing HD5750. but remember you'll require Saga II 400W/Gigabyte 460W/Corsair CX400W, etc. GTS450 is power hungry.

Hi guys planning to buy a new rig(CPU+Motherboard+PSU)
I hv an Athlon X2 4400+ CPU, Asus M2NMX SE Motherboard,2GB Zion DDR2 800MHz RAM.1TB Seagate n 500GB Seagate HDD,ATI Radeon HD 4650 IGB,LG 20" Monitor,some intex(a.k.a el cheapo) 450W PSU n APC 550 UPS.
My PSU went kaput e few hours bk.I'm thinking of going for a new rig(Procc+MoBo+PSU).I have decided on a few too :
Procc - AMD Athlon II X4 635/630(depends on availability) OR AMD Phenom II X4 955 B.E(945 will also do)
Motherboard - Asus M4N68M OR MSI GF615M-P33 OR Biostar A780L3 OR Biostar MCP6P3
PSU - Dunno wat wud be a good PSU.
Earlier I hadn't taken the PSU cost in my budget but now that it went kaboom gotta include that too.I can spend 15Gs tops.The MSI n Biostar MoBo I'm looking for supports 800/1066/1333 memory n AM3 socket.I dunno whether the 2 processor I've chosen will run on my DDR2 800Mhz memory.So can anyone plz temme whether it'll or not?Coz not going for DDR3 1333 will save me 2.6K.Also I have no idea about a good PSU so can anyone plz suggest one?
Sorry I forgot to post the purpose of my rig.I watch a lotta 720p movies n shows on my system.Also I encode a few video files using x264 codec by Xvid4PSP.My current rig can't last the 2passes for x264 encode coz the CPU temp go upto 95-100 degrees C n then it shuts down.Also during the conversion(usually during the 2nd pass,in which my system shuts down) system becomes almost unusable.So should I go for Athlon II X4 635/630 or Phenom II X4 955/945(which has 6mb of L3 cache)?

for proccy, get the one you choose. for mobo, get Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H (AM2+. so DDR2 ram) or get one of the board suggested above. will require DDR3 ram.

for PSU, a local will do but if you can FSP/Gigabyte/COrsair/Seasonic are good ones.
 

ssb1551

Technomancer
get a branded good PSU. FSP Saga II 350W/Gigabyte 400W will suffice for HD5670 or can go a bit higher. if you unable find this PSU locally, better order it online (from IT Wares, Media Home or Lynx India).

1. heating issue & power consumption thing are part of history now. if you going get new proccy, get Core i3 or AMD Athlon II X3/x4. until & unless you use your system for encoding, Athlon II carries lot more value as its cheaper than Intel (& AMD Phenom II series) also the motherboard price is really low compared to Intel. add to it, usually the upgrade path is open. Intel will bring new socket to market soon (means current i3/i5 won't be supported after 2010).

2. For Intel, get P55 based board from MSI/Gigabyte. skip Asus (considering you'll purchase a graphics card with the system) else get H55 based board. cost around 5-7k. For AMD, get Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H/MA880GM-UD2H or Biostar TA785G3 HD. skip Asus board. they offer extra problem (read sound, ram, graphics problem). Cost below 4.5k for all.

3. i'll simply suggest wait a month. GTS450 will appear on market. get one for price of HD5750 & see it thrashing HD5750. but remember you'll require Saga II 400W/Gigabyte 460W/Corsair CX400W, etc. GTS450 is power hungry.



for proccy, get the one you choose. for mobo, get Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H (AM2+. so DDR2 ram) or get one of the board suggested above. will require DDR3 ram.

for PSU, a local will do but if you can FSP/Gigabyte/COrsair/Seasonic are good ones.

hey thanks for ur suggestion..Can't find any of the mentioned PSUs at my place.Only ones available are Intex,iBall in 400/500/600W,Zebronics in 450/500/600W.Which one should I go for amongst the ones available?
 

sshakehar

Right off the assembly line
@ Sam.Shab & Cilus : thanks a lot for your feedback

my budget is 35 K and i am fine with waiting for a couple of months if that means i can get a better rig that way
p.s : i missed out on the keyboard and mouse plz suggest that too
 
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