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topgear

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ur budget just too low to include i5's. & never get a imbalance rig. later u'll have to spend more money when u see the performance is not upto the mark u expected. also u asking for too many components & including all these under 35k wil be a really tough task for anyone. still lemme try:

Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620: Rs. 4.5k
Motherboard: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k or MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6k
Ram: Transcend 2 X 2Gb DDR3-1333Mhz C9: Rs. 4.4k
Hard Disk: Seagate 7200.12 500GB: Rs. 2.3k
Optical Drives: LG 22X DVD SATA: Rs. 1.1k
GFX card: VTX3D HD5750 1GB GDDR5 @ 8.2k
PSU: Gigabyte 80 plus Active PFC 460W: 2.2k
Cabinet: Cooler Master Elite 310: Rs. 1.5k
Monitor: Benq G2220HD 22” FULL HD: Rs. 8k
Keyboard Mouse: Logitech Internet Pro Desktop: Rs. 0.6k
UPS: APC 650VA @ ??? i nt know.

total wil be around 40k but u'll get the kind of performance u thinking of. u can even swap the X4 620 for 635. don't get X4 630 as it's no more giving any value @ just around 200bucks short of the new processor.



yup. but if u want future proof, u should get X4. 555 X2 is not a bad choice either provided u able to unlock its hidden cores. & from reviews the 6Mb L3 cache only helps in gaming. in other tasks, the X4's thrash it.



my pleasure clearing his confusion. & mate its L3 not L2. L2 is 1Mb in all X2's (athlon2 & phenom2). 2Mb in all X3's & X4's (same).

exactly. intel already turned HT so their all proccy's with exception of the Pentium G*** are now like virtual Quad cores. AMD wil also switch to a new trick with their Bulldozer range of processors so that dual cores are recognized as X4's by OS. more info here

Yup, that should be L3 cache :p and the AMD's new Bulldozer range cpus news was new to me .. thanks for that buddy :p

u can get to HD4850 512Mb & save 2k if u willing to sacrifice the DX11 mania, which is still a very hot selling card & perfect start for gaming @ 22". with 2k get a TV tuner card. sorry, but i nt have much experience with these TV-tuner cards. still get Pixel View PV-M54500 @ 1.4k (internal) as it'll not make ur desk-space clumsy :)

HD4850 consumes around 60W more as compared to HD5750 and the performance is around 5-10% more .. so going with HD5750 would be more wiser :p

@ pulsar_swift - Try to get either CM extreme power plus 500W one.
 

rollcage

AMD user for 9 yrs!!
i am going to build a new Rig for around 25k to 30k..through in your suggestions please. I want to build this pc for a cousin.. wants everything around in this budget. tell me whats VFM Mobo+ processor right now. shall i get 2 HDD and put them in Raid just need good performance can backup imp data somewhere. oh yes also need tv tuner card. I have no idea about that. I am sure on Cabinet that has to be cooler Master, Keybard mouse - Logitech Combo, UPs -shall be 2 battery. Ram .. whats up with USB3 & DDR3 too expensive?
so though in ur suggestions for :-
Processor + Mobo + Ram + Cooler Master Cabinet & PSU + HDD + Logitech Combo + UPS + DVDwriter + TV Tuner + Gamepad + Speakers


Regards ..waiting by

(well i guess not today may be later now but please advise..)
 
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pulsar_swift

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not yet came up against any review for this particular board. but this board is a nice 1. cooling is good. though u'll miss out on the 128Mb DDR3 sideport memory still it got enough guts to kick out some good FPS in casual gaming, not to mention other multimedia uses. as heatsink is good, u can OC the inbuilt graphics quite a bit, maybe 80% more.

u game or not, this board is a good overall performer.

128 MB Sideport Memory is not there in MSI 785GM - E51 also right ?
which board are you referring to ?
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
128 MB Sideport Memory is not there in MSI 785GM - E51 also right ?
which board are you referring to ?

yup. u rite. only MSI E65, Asus M4A785TD-V EVO got the sideport memory. i was referring to the Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H.

i am going to build a new Rig for around 25k to 30k..through in your suggestions please. I want to build this pc for a cousin.. wants everything around in this budget. tell me whats VFM Mobo+ processor right now. shall i get 2 HDD and put them in Raid just need good performance can backup imp data somewhere. oh yes also need tv tuner card. I have no idea about that. I am sure on Cabinet that has to be cooler Master, Keybard mouse - Logitech Combo, UPs -shall be 2 battery. Ram .. whats up with USB3 & DDR3 too expensive?
so though in ur suggestions for :-
Processor + Mobo + Ram + Cooler Master Cabinet & PSU + HDD + Logitech Combo + UPS + DVDwriter + TV Tuner + Gamepad + Speakers


Regards ..waiting by

(well i guess not today may be later now but please advise..)

well cooler master is a International company that makes Cabinet, Coolers & many more PC peripherals. theres nothing like cabinet must be of cooler master only. & DDR3 is the realm of 2day as DDR2 rams have both got old & costly. ok so here ur cousins config goes:

Athlon II X4 620 2.6GHz @ 4.7k
MSI 785GN-E65 @ 5.6k
Transcend 2X2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 4.5k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.4k
LG 22X DVD Writer @ 1.1k
Cooler Master Elite 310 + Zebronics Pro 350W @ 3k //if he wants cooler master only//
or
Zebronics Antibiotic @ 2.5k //better looking & good cabinet//
BenQ G2020HD 20" LCD Monitor @ 6.5k //get 19" if ur cousin plays game//
Speaker your choice.
APC 550-600Va UPS.
Logitech internet desktop @ 0.6k
Gadmei TV 3820E @ Rs. 975 or PixelView Play TV Pro 3 @ 1.2k.

total @ 32.9k. if its a bit too high, here what u can do, 1) swap the processor for AMD Athlon2 X3 425 or 435 which wil cost 1k less. get 2Gb DDR3 which wil again reduce price by 2.2-2.4k. search & get Biostar TA785G A3, which costs ~3.7k. also u may get a 18.5-19" monitor. & 1 side note, at around 30k if u go intel's way u'll get only outdated system which support only DDR2. & if something goes wrong after 1yr or 2. u'll end up changing almost everything inside the PC. also for same price u getting a PC with almost double the workforce of a last generation intel PC.


Yup, that should be L3 cache :p and the AMD's new Bulldozer range cpus news was new to me .. thanks for that buddy :p

i just follow anandtech & dailytech for all the new PC based infos. so got the news there :)
 

coderunknown

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^ what are those Bulldozer Range Cpus -details please.

they are the upcoming range of desktop processors (mobile processors wil be known as bobcat(s)) from AMD due out some time in H2 2011. it'll integrate the onboard graphics found in northbridge directly into the Processor core much like intel wil do with sandy bridges (not like i3/i5 where GPU & CPU live side by side). chances are Athlon/Phenom II are going to be the last generation of dual core processors. i gave a link above but for now its a bit confusing to understand as very much little details have been released by AMD. still check once, its damn interesting. & wil get more dirty & ugly as AMD gets back into the processor fight with a BULLDOZER.
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Guys,

Its not working out for me.
Dealer is qouting Rs 5700 for Transcend 4GB DDR3 RAM and Rs 2900 for CM Extreme Power Plus 500W.

What do you suggest ? Any dealers in PUNE who could give me better price ?
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Guys,

Its not working out for me.
Dealer is qouting Rs 5700 for Transcend 4GB DDR3 RAM and Rs 2900 for CM Extreme Power Plus 500W.

What do you suggest ? Any dealers in PUNE who could give me better price ?

5700 for 4Gb DDR3 & that also from transcend? its hell lot more. contact PrimeABGB. they should be able to provide you at a much lower rate. & at 2900 u close to getting a Seasonic SII-12 Bronze 380W.

Do not..............!

if OP uses a GFX card with load power below 75W (Pcie X16 limit), 500W should b able to handle it. more? he'll just hear a sound & PC won't turn on.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
^^
I give the CM Extreme series a wide berth. Irrespective of what load will be mapped to them. Something I would never buy, so would not recommend it. Far to many cases of it conking off.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
^^
I give the CM Extreme series a wide berth. Irrespective of what load will be mapped to them. Something I would never buy, so would not recommend it. Far to many cases of it conking off.

yup. but if no other PSU is available CM Xtreme Power looks to be only light of hope. still getting other PSU is always & highly recommended.
 
they are the upcoming range of desktop processors (mobile processors wil be known as bobcat(s)) from AMD due out some time in H2 2011. it'll integrate the onboard graphics found in northbridge directly into the Processor core much like intel wil do with sandy bridges (not like i3/i5 where GPU & CPU live side by side). chances are Athlon/Phenom II are going to be the last generation of dual core processors. i gave a link above but for now its a bit confusing to understand as very much little details have been released by AMD. still check once, its damn interesting. & wil get more dirty & ugly as AMD gets back into the processor fight with a BULLDOZER.

wow thats cool as there was no activity from amd since 2 years atleast, no tough competition for intel especially for i7 cpus, any ways next year means no slash of prices even this year:-|.
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
yup. but if no other PSU is available CM Xtreme Power looks to be only light of hope. still getting other PSU is always & highly recommended.

Ok, Please suggest me a better PSU then. I can spend upto Rs 2500 for the PSU, as I am already spending Rs 1850 for the cabby CM Elite 310.

How about this one ?

Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS[/URL]
PFC : Active PFC Rs :2200/-

OR

Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs. 2,200.00

I checked Prime ABGB website, it doesn't have Transcend RAM listed. I will call the shop today and let you all know the price he is quoting.
 
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coderunknown

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Ok, Please suggest me a better PSU then. I can spend upto Rs 2500 for the PSU, as I am already spending Rs 1850 for the cabby CM Elite 310.

How about this one ?

Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS[/URL]
PFC : Active PFC Rs :2200/-

OR

Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs. 2,200.00

I checked Prime ABGB website, it doesn't have Transcend RAM listed. I will call the shop today and let you all know the price he is quoting.

if u can find the gigabyte 460W, its your best & safest option at your above mentioned budget.

wow thats cool as there was no activity from amd since 2 years atleast, no tough competition for intel especially for i7 cpus, any ways next year means no slash of prices even this year:-|.

i see it other way, with Intel releasing Sandy Bridges by 2011, which wil ask for its own bit of premium, AMD wil bring out its Llano (part of fusion, codenamed Bulldozer) which i think wil surely cost less as most ppls favor Intel only.

as for this year, AMD wil continue slash prices as the i3's & i5's gets more & more budget friendly. X4 620 already available for 4.5k. X4 955 should come down to 7k by summer days if i5 750 gets price down to 9k. all in all good for us, the consumers :razz:
 

Piyush

Lanaya
yeah very informative:p:smile::idea:

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Ok, Please suggest me a better PSU then. I can spend upto Rs 2500 for the PSU, as I am already spending Rs 1850 for the cabby CM Elite 310.

How about this one ?

Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS[/URL]
PFC : Active PFC Rs :2200/-

OR

Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs. 2,200.00

I checked Prime ABGB website, it doesn't have Transcend RAM listed. I will call the shop today and let you all know the price he is quoting.


ok the one u mentioned is a gud choice:doublethumb:
but if u aren't able 2 find it then go for
1:- Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 460W – 2,400/-
2:- Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W – 2,800/-

happy shopping:wave:

---------- Post added at 10:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

Ok, Please suggest me a better PSU then. I can spend upto Rs 2500 for the PSU, as I am already spending Rs 1850 for the cabby CM Elite 310.

How about this one ?

Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS[/URL]
PFC : Active PFC Rs :2200/-

OR

Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs. 2,200.00

I checked Prime ABGB website, it doesn't have Transcend RAM listed. I will call the shop today and let you all know the price he is quoting.


oh i just forgot to give u a tip that agent 001 gave me
go for the heavier PSU's
the heavier they are , the better they are:smile:

---------- Post added at 10:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 AM ----------

Please suggest best minimum priced cabinet + PSU suited for

m4a785td-v evo
amd a2 x4 620

considering that i will overclock both cpu and mgpu ( builtin hd 4200)

Thanks

u didn't mentioned ur budget range
anyways i'll simplify it for ya

psu cabinet price
CM eXtreme Power Plus 460W CM elite 310 2400+1800 CM eXtreme Power Plus 500W CM elite 330 2800+2200
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Guys,
Just now spoke to Ashok from PRIMEABGB. He is qouting Rs 2850 for 2GB Transcend DDR3 RAM. Thats Rs 5700 for 4GB.
Where are you getting this for Rs 4400 ? :-(
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Guys,
Just now spoke to Ashok from PRIMEABGB. He is qouting Rs 2850 for 2GB Transcend DDR3 RAM. Thats Rs 5700 for 4GB.
Where are you getting this for Rs 4400 ? :-(

:shock:even PrimeABGB quoting Rs.2850? well 1 last try, talk to thunder.02dragon of Exodus PC. or send him a PM here asking about price for Transcand DDR3 Ram.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Ok Sam, I sent a PM to thunder.02dragon. Could you also PM him and confirm ?

yah sure. i'll do it from my side as well. i2 curious know the price of DDR3. 5500+ for transcend DDR3 is a bit too much. its approaching the price of better performance rams like G.Skill & Corsair.
 
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