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coderunknown
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for PSU, start from gigabyte 460W & above. cabinet my personal choice is CM elite 310. if possible with transparent side panel + 2 good fans & u gt a good cooling for both cpu & gpu.
pulsar_swift
Youngling
Guys,
Need ur help. My P4 PC just died. I have 2 hard disks 80 GB IDE and 320 GB SATA and 1 DVD writer and a 512 MB NVIDIA 8400 GS, which i think can carry over to my new PC.
Please suggest me a new config with 20K total budget for processor, motherboard and 3 GB DDR2 or DDR3 RAM and cabinet and powersupply. My 8400 GS should work on the new motherbaord if possible. If not suggest me a new graphics card. My monitor is DELL Ultrsharp 19" widescreen.
Sole purpose of this PC is to browse and watch movies and occasional office work for which i use VPN and remote connection(mstsc) to connect to my office PC.
I plan to install windows 7 on this PC.
Urgent help required.
Need ur help. My P4 PC just died. I have 2 hard disks 80 GB IDE and 320 GB SATA and 1 DVD writer and a 512 MB NVIDIA 8400 GS, which i think can carry over to my new PC.
Please suggest me a new config with 20K total budget for processor, motherboard and 3 GB DDR2 or DDR3 RAM and cabinet and powersupply. My 8400 GS should work on the new motherbaord if possible. If not suggest me a new graphics card. My monitor is DELL Ultrsharp 19" widescreen.
Sole purpose of this PC is to browse and watch movies and occasional office work for which i use VPN and remote connection(mstsc) to connect to my office PC.
I plan to install windows 7 on this PC.
Urgent help required.
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dontanalyse
Right off the assembly line
Thanks for the suggestion , will check this out.. .. may I ask why you'd not suggest the P4 system? Though the rig you have suggested is perfect, but it is nearly triple of the price of the p4 . Just curious about why(i'm sorry.. I'm just trying to find out why, not that I don't like the config you have .. I love that.. )
IN addition to that, as I haven't used AMD yet, and when I looked over the forums, I found AMD is more suggested than Intel.. is it because of the power consumption and less heating?
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^^ That old system you were talking about is not very suitable and the durability of it will be a big question and as you told 
So I've suggested what I thought is just good for you
For your mobo chioce just exchange the mobo and ram with the following :
MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
BTW, you can also take a look at the config I've suggested to pulsar
So I've suggested what I thought is just good for you
For your mobo chioce just exchange the mobo and ram with the following :
MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
BTW, you can also take a look at the config I've suggested to pulsar
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MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
AMD Athlon II X4 630 @ 5K
CM Elite 330 Rs. 2.1K
Gigabyte Superb PSU Rs. 2.2K
You don't even have to use the 8400GS gfx card anymore as the onboard gpu on this mobo is more than powerful for your all needs
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pulsar_swift
Youngling
MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
AMD Phenom II X4 630 @ 5K
CM Elite 330 Rs. 2.1K
Gigabyte Superb PSU Rs. 2.2K
You don't even have to use the 8400GS gfx card anymore as the onboard gpu on this mobo is more than powerful for your all needs
topgear,
Is it AMD Athlon II X4 630 ? coz i cannot find Phenom II X4 630. If it is athlon II, the L2 cache is only 2 MB.
How about this processor ?
Phenom II X2 - 555 BE 3.2 GHz, 7MB, AM3 Rs
5150
I couldnt find the mobo either
I am using www.deltapage.com as the reference.
I am in PUNE, is there any place or website i should check out ?
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
AMD Phenom II X4 630 @ 5K
CM Elite 330 Rs. 2.1K
Gigabyte Superb PSU Rs. 2.2K
You don't even have to use the 8400GS gfx card anymore as the onboard gpu on this mobo is more than powerful for your all needs
+1
^^ That old system you were talking about is not very suitable and the durability of it will be a big question and as you told
So I've suggested what I thought is just good for you
For your mobo chioce just exchange the mobo and ram with the following :
MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6K
2x 2 GB DDR3 Ram Rs. 5K
BTW, you can also take a look at the config I've suggested to pulsar
+1 again
topgear,
Is it AMD Athlon II X4 630 ? coz i cannot find Phenom II X4 630. If it is athlon II, the L2 cache is only 2 MB.
How about this processor ?
Phenom II X2 - 555 BE 3.2 GHz, 7MB, AM3 Rs
5150
I couldnt find the mobo either
I am using www.deltapage.com as the reference.
I am in PUNE, is there any place or website i should check out ?
yup its X4 630 from Athlon2. well MSI E51 should be available locally.
X2 555 have faster clock speed but X4 is more futureproof.
Guys, Plz help me configure a desktop for my budget 30 to 35k
It would be basically used for Internet, Movies, Photoshop and medium gaming. needs to be future proof atleast for another 3 yrs.
Processor - Open for any sugesstion, is it good to buy a I5-750 and buy lower end components for other parts ?
I have an Logitech X540 speaker, so it would be good I could get a 5.1 output either in-built or external.
Monitor - Intend to use the system also as an TV, so plz suggest a good 21/24 inch monitor. Also suggest an internal or external TV tuner card.
Please suggest options for other components like MOBO, RAM, HDD, Optical Drive (wud be good if it could support BlueRay), Cabinet, SMPS, UPS ..
Thanks, Vino
It would be basically used for Internet, Movies, Photoshop and medium gaming. needs to be future proof atleast for another 3 yrs.
Processor - Open for any sugesstion, is it good to buy a I5-750 and buy lower end components for other parts ?
I have an Logitech X540 speaker, so it would be good I could get a 5.1 output either in-built or external.
Monitor - Intend to use the system also as an TV, so plz suggest a good 21/24 inch monitor. Also suggest an internal or external TV tuner card.
Please suggest options for other components like MOBO, RAM, HDD, Optical Drive (wud be good if it could support BlueRay), Cabinet, SMPS, UPS ..
Thanks, Vino
pulsar_swift
Youngling
But L2 cache is 7 MB for X2 555 and just 2MB for X4 630 ? what are the advantages of high L2 cache ?
^^ Yup, that cpu was Athlon II X4 630 or get 635 around 5.2K
BTW, here's the official link for that MSI mobo :
*www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1866&maincat_no=1
@ Sam.Shab - thanks buddy for replying to him
BTW, The more L2 cache will boost gaming performance for those games which are optimized for dual cores but a multi core cpu will be more future proof as most of the future games are going to be multi core optimized and audio/video encoding/editing apps benefits greatly by using all those four cores and I heard that some database app will be multi core optimized
BTW, here's the official link for that MSI mobo :
*www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1866&maincat_no=1
@ Sam.Shab - thanks buddy for replying to him
BTW, The more L2 cache will boost gaming performance for those games which are optimized for dual cores but a multi core cpu will be more future proof as most of the future games are going to be multi core optimized and audio/video encoding/editing apps benefits greatly by using all those four cores and I heard that some database app will be multi core optimized
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
ur budget just too low to include i5's. & never get a imbalance rig. later u'll have to spend more money when u see the performance is not upto the mark u expected. also u asking for too many components & including all these under 35k wil be a really tough task for anyone. still lemme try:
Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620: Rs. 4.5k
Motherboard: ECS A785GM-M @ 4.8k or MSI 785GM-E51 @ 4.6k
Ram: Transcend 2 X 2Gb DDR3-1333Mhz C9: Rs. 4.4k
Hard Disk: Seagate 7200.12 500GB: Rs. 2.3k
Optical Drives: LG 22X DVD SATA: Rs. 1.1k
GFX card: VTX3D HD5750 1GB GDDR5 @ 8.2k
PSU: Gigabyte 80 plus Active PFC 460W: 2.2k
Cabinet: Cooler Master Elite 310: Rs. 1.5k
Monitor: Benq G2220HD 22” FULL HD: Rs. 8k
Keyboard Mouse: Logitech Internet Pro Desktop: Rs. 0.6k
UPS: APC 650VA @ ??? i nt know.
total wil be around 40k but u'll get the kind of performance u thinking of. u can even swap the X4 620 for 635. don't get X4 630 as it's no more giving any value @ just around 200bucks short of the new processor.
yup. but if u want future proof, u should get X4. 555 X2 is not a bad choice either provided u able to unlock its hidden cores. & from reviews the 6Mb L3 cache only helps in gaming. in other tasks, the X4's thrash it.
^^ Yup, that cpu was Athlon II X4 630 or get 635 around 5.2K
BTW, here's the official link for that MSI mobo :
*www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1866&maincat_no=1
@ Sam.Shab - thanks buddy for replying to him
BTW, The more L2 cache will boost gaming performance for those games which are optimized for dual cores but a multi core cpu will be more future proof as most of the future games are going to be multi core optimized and audio/video encoding/editing apps benefits greatly by using all those four cores and I heard that some database app will be multi core optimized
my pleasure clearing his confusion. & mate its L3 not L2. L2 is 1Mb in all X2's (athlon2 & phenom2). 2Mb in all X3's & X4's (same).
exactly. intel already turned HT so their all proccy's with exception of the Pentium G*** are now like virtual Quad cores. AMD wil also switch to a new trick with their Bulldozer range of processors so that dual cores are recognized as X4's by OS. more info here
Thanks for the suggestion.
Few queries,
Is it necessary to have HD5750 card for supporting a 22" Full HD Monitor. Since I dont use it for serious gaming, can I do away with a cheaper GFX card. If so please suggest one.
Also plz suggest a good TV tuner card. Either internal or external.
Thanks again.
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
u can get to HD4850 512Mb & save 2k if u willing to sacrifice the DX11 mania, which is still a very hot selling card & perfect start for gaming @ 22". with 2k get a TV tuner card. sorry, but i nt have much experience with these TV-tuner cards. still get Pixel View PV-M54500 @ 1.4k (internal) as it'll not make ur desk-space clumsy
pulsar_swift
Youngling
Ok Guys,
Here is the quote i got from the local dealer.
MSI 785GM-E51 is not available.
He gave the following config.
Please comment on below config and pricing.
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad X4 - 635 2.9GHz, 2MB, AM3 Rs 5400
Transcend 4GB RAM DDR3 Rs 5300
Gigabyte MA785GMT-US2H - Rs 5900
ANTEC NSK 4400 Rs 1900
CM Extreme Power 450W 1800
Here is the quote i got from the local dealer.
MSI 785GM-E51 is not available.
He gave the following config.
Please comment on below config and pricing.
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad X4 - 635 2.9GHz, 2MB, AM3 Rs 5400
Transcend 4GB RAM DDR3 Rs 5300
Gigabyte MA785GMT-US2H - Rs 5900
ANTEC NSK 4400 Rs 1900
CM Extreme Power 450W 1800
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coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
the DDR3 ram price is high. max 5k u should pay. mobo price looks somewhat ok. & as for PSU, ask for Zebronics Pro 350, Gigabyte 460W or Vip 400W gold. then post back prices. if u getting CM xtreme power try get 1 with high wattage, say 500-550W. so under load ur PSU works just fine.
pulsar_swift
Youngling
What are your comments on the MOBO Gigabyte MA78GMT-UD2H ? Is it good enough ?
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
not yet came up against any review for this particular board. but this board is a nice 1. cooling is good. though u'll miss out on the 128Mb DDR3 sideport memory still it got enough guts to kick out some good FPS in casual gaming, not to mention other multimedia uses. as heatsink is good, u can OC the inbuilt graphics quite a bit, maybe 80% more.
u game or not, this board is a good overall performer.
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