AMD Bulldozer News and Discussion

[vickybat]

Found out in the reviews that for gaming,fx-4110/6110 is not at all bad choice...lets see how its priced in India.

Can you please justify the above by sharing those links mate? Afaik, they don't qualify as good gaming cpu's. They are also beaten by previous generation athlon 2 and phenom 2 x4's.

Guru3d has tested only farcry 2 and crysis 2 and both these cpu's are right at the bottom of the pack. So can you clarify by sharing some other reviews?

 

[max_snyper]

^areee dude IMO when u play at the higher resolution there is low stress on cpu than gpu,as we all know if next gen games are still gpu depended then any cpu would do as long as it has more than 2 physical cores.

and as we are discussing on southern islands..this might be your interest.
Report: First AMD 28nm GPU Due in December

 

[vickybat]

^^wow nice info mate. hd 7 series will really be something. Can't wait to see how the new GCN architecture based Tahiti-XT & PRO perform.

 

[vaibhav23]

I am no more thinking about 4100 as its cpu performance is even lesser than p2 x4.Its equal to p2 x3 and athlon2 x3.
No more BD in my mind.Would either get a SB or p2 x6

 

[max_snyper]

^^^i no more thinking of the amd platform itself.....i was thinking my next build to be from amd camp....their upgradability was of keen interest but due to not so good performance(i said not so good instead of "poor" coz they are average-ish) im more thinking of a intel platform around november end..may be a 2500k build.As they are offering ivy bridge next gen on the same package (1155).

 

[dashing.sujay]

Guys see this- AMD Spreads Propaganda, Ex-Employee Speaks Out

 

[vaibhav23]

yes I am also got fixed between whether to take SB to upgrade to IB or take Phenom to upgrade to Piledriver

 

[Minion]

^^piledriver release will be on the early q2 of 2012.
I think it would be better if they price BD close to 2500k here in India,price close to 2600k would not make the cut. afterall its India where Intel is known even to those people who dont have basic knowledge of pc hardware.
Found out in the reviews that for gaming,fx-4110/6110 is not at all bad choice...lets see how its priced in India.

Yes,max people are too much intel centric most of the people even think AMD has heating problem now it is the real problem with them.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Yes,max people are too much intel centric most of the people even think AMD has heating problem.

I totally agree with you. I have seen ppl commenting on AMD from days of athlon 2xxx, that AMD heats a lot. Although AMD had the problem but not now i guess coz i'm also using athlon x2. You will be surprised to know that, that in todays IT era,in my home town (Gaya), no PC shop keeps AMD procy When i bought my first pc, i got 845 chipset being told as new, although 945 had arrived then. (I was totally a n00b that time )

 

[MegaMind]

yes I am also got fixed between whether to take SB to upgrade to IB or take Phenom to upgrade to Piledriver

IMO, AMD will try to defeat the current Gen. intel(Sandybridge) with their Piledriver CPUs & by that time Intel would have long gone with their Ivy bridge CPUs...

 

[Minion]

dashing.sujay,Intel has much more resource than AMD even their income is more. To do research it requires money if nobody is going to support you then how Somebody will compete in this fierce market. So its really hard time for them I feel if they overcome shortcoming of BD and releases next version of BD much early then they are back into game again.

Again people need to understand phenom x4 series provide great value for money BD is completely new architecture that is the reason why it miserably fails While Microsoft works very closely with Intel to utilize full power of their CPUs

In earlier Days AMD was a research company AMD develop hyper threading for intel which push intel a long way even today i don't believe how they are losing to a company for whom they develop technologies.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

if anybody missed this -
AMD FX-8150 Black Edition CPU Water Cooler Review - Temperature Testing Results - Legit Reviews

 

[sukesh1090]

so guys will AMD get bankrupted??just a doubt wandering in head.

 

[rahul2002]

^^^ subh subh bolo bhai!!!!1 )

 

[max_snyper]

@sukesh...dude its a multi-million company they havent invested in BD consumer products entirely...they still have ample of money and they have already signed up for the oem contracts....so dont worry!!!!
Their GPU division is doing too well so they are unlikely to go bankrupt.

 

[sukesh1090]

^^hahahaa.i was just kidding.but if they go on releasing BD like processors then sure they will face that condition.i never want that because i love AMD.

 

[Skyh3ck]

As I said earlier.. If AMD loose we loose...neither Intel nor nvidia should get monopoly.... If AMD go bankrupt we will have to face Intel and nvidia both and have to use whatever they provide...

If AMD was not there we would not have got this multi core processors... They came with 3, 6 core proccy and now 8...

What if they come with a masterpiece in next copule of months...

Even Intel fan should thank AMD for forcing Intel to go 64bit, multi core, etc.

 

[topgear]

^^ I agree with you

We all need AMD to succeed. We've seen what happens without a strong AMD as a competitor. We get processors that are artificially limited and severe restrictions on overclocking, particularly at the value end of the segment. We're denied choice simply because there's no other alternative. I don't believe Bulldozer is a strong enough alternative to force Intel back into an ultra competitive mode, but we absolutely need it to be that. I have faith that AMD can pull it off, but there's still a lot of progress that needs to be made. AMD can't simply rely on its GPU architecture superiority to sell APUs; it needs to ramp on the x86 side as well—more specifically, AMD needs better single threaded performance. Bulldozer didn't deliver that, and I'm worried that Piledriver alone won't be enough. But if AMD can stick to a yearly cadence and execute well with each iteration, there's hope. It's no longer a question of whether AMD will return to the days of the Athlon 64, it simply must. Otherwise you can kiss choice goodbye.

Source

this why AMD needs to come up with a strong cpu and this why we are seeing ( still ) a lot of choices when someone needs to buy a cpu

 

[gameranand]

+1
I agree with you here. AMD's performance is really important as if they don't perform then we are going towards intel's monopoly which is too bad for us.

 

[sukesh1090]

looks like every one is thinking a lot about AMD.in world there are some people who trust AMD.thats why some people without even waiting for the review just bought the BD.but now because of BD's performance they lost trust in AMD.so hope AMD gains back it by releasing some revisions.