AMD Bulldozer News and Discussion

[sukesh1090]

^^in VMs and encoding and all 8150 is ahead of intel.so its better to go with 8150 than 2600k if its power consumption issues gets fixed.isn't it?

 

[tkin]

^^in VMs and encoding and all 8150 is ahead of intel.so its better to go with 8150 than 2600k if its power consumption issues gets fixed.isn't it?

That's a big if, but if it does, then yes, definitely.

Update: even with vms and encoding 8150 is faster than 2500k, not 2600k, but the price difference makes 8150 a better choice.

 

[sukesh1090]

^^lets hope it does or else we have to wait for piledriver.but if it does then the good time for AMD will begin.btw thanks for the comics.while preparing that comic may be AMD didn't know that FX group is going to need a hell lot of food to survive.
yes, but brother the programs need a bit tweaking and optimization for working effectively in BD and for that we have to wait and after that even if it gets a mere 5-6% boost in performance it will go ahead.

 

[vickybat]

^^in VMs and encoding and all 8150 is ahead of intel.so its better to go with 8150 than 2600k if its power consumption issues gets fixed.isn't it?

8150 cannot get past 2600k even in multithreaded apps. That's because its single threaded performance is very low actually lower than the thubans.

Overall, its not recommended to go for bulldozer now considering its performance and not power consumption. Memory read/write speeds are also abysmal.

 

[sukesh1090]

memory read and write speed of AMD was always lower when compared to Intel because they never ever tried to improve their memory controller.but the multi thread performance is very good but the single thread is not good may be because of its newer design.

 

[vickybat]

memory read and write speed of AMD was always lower when compared to Intel because they never ever tried to improve their memory controller.but the multi thread performance is very good but the single thread is not good may be because of its newer design.

Multithreading is good but not good enough. Remember that mutlithreading performance will always depend on single core performance. They are directly proportional.

Anyways an interesting article:

Did We Expect Too Much of AMD Bulldozer?

 

[sukesh1090]

^^thanks for the link brother.the one comment whic caught me was that the decision of AMD buying ATI.now AMD has to compete both with nvidia and Intel.which is getting harder for them i guess.but still we need this company running or else we will see 2600k selling for 50k and 560 selling for 45k.

 

[vickybat]

^^ You're welcome mate. Yes there should be competition or else end users like us will be affected.

 

[MegaMind]

will be buying BD next week for sure though...
Guys, any AM3+ board is fine for BD right?

If its for gaming, I don't think its a good choice...

Guys anyone checked HardwareCanucks?? They give pretty awesome reviews..

 

[topgear]

^^ thanks for the link

that is what I meant... its not the performance that soooo bad, just power consumption is Phenom I type ...

will be buying BD next week for sure though...
Guys, any AM3+ board is fine for BD right?

not any Am3+ mobo is good for BD cpus - some Am3+ mobos has 95w cpu TDP limitation like asus M5A78L-M LX @ 2.8k - if you want a 95w+ tdp am3+ cpu then look for Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 ( 3.1 rev ) @ 4.8k - there's more pricier mobo based on 9 series chipset which has native suuport for am3+ ie BullDozer cpu but they cost even more as well.

yes but only if its power consumption issues gets fixed.i hope it will be fixed in next revisions and performance is not a worry.so if you want to but BD wait for some time.

Most probably AMD will fix the power consumption with next revision and performance might improve as well but for some huge leap in performance we have to wait for their next cpu release

 

[gameranand]

And when is their next CPU release ??

 

[sukesh1090]

i think it is in somewhere around q2 in 2012 but not sure as AMD have only mentioned 2012.that processor is piledriver.but lets wait for the next revision.may if that power consumption gets fixed then surely AMD will increase the frequency to what they were first intended to.i guess power consumption was the reason because of which they didn't increased the frequency to 30% more than the phenom.

 

[gameranand]

Oh boy 2nd quarter. I hope revision come with hd7000 series as I'll buy pc when 7xxx get release.

 

[Skyh3ck]

Buying BD now is a stupid thing to do... Be happy with whatever you have now ... Wait for couple of months or for Ivy Bridge.... AMD may come with revision or AMD FX v 2.0 with optimised performance in single thread apps and lower poer consumption......

BD power usage is not good considering that it is a 32 nm proccy.. People at AMD are not mad they know where they stand against Intel...

I would like to see AMD succeed if they loose we loose.. I don't want to buy a 3 Ghz Intel proccy or a nvidia mid range card at Rs 25000 because if AMD does not come with any good Intel or Nvidia will be asking too much....

 

[sukesh1090]

@gameranand,
the piledriver is intended to be released in early 2012.so hope it will be released in Q1.

 

[max_snyper]

^^piledriver release will be on the early q2 of 2012.
I think it would be better if they price BD close to 2500k here in India,price close to 2600k would not make the cut. afterall its India where Intel is known even to those people who dont have basic knowledge of pc hardware.
Found out in the reviews that for gaming,fx-4110/6110 is not at all bad choice...lets see how its priced in India.

 

[vaibhav23]

please give links for 4110/6110 reviews other than the guru 3d review

 

[sukesh1090]

^^buddy are you kidding.you only have given the link for the guru 3d review of 4XXX and 6XXX in post 846.now why you are asking for the link?

 

[vaibhav23]

max_snyper has written reviews which means that he has read reviews other than the guru 3d review

 

[max_snyper]

^^i was collectively counting on reviews for all bulldozers...!
only one till now (guru3d).