Windows is !easy, Linux is !hard

[adithyagenius]

@adithya:this is NOT for you:
learning curve:for a pro-fanatic windows user,Linux usage is nothing but whining for every feature of windows.I feel dont look at the clean Ubuntu or Fedora Gnome Desktop.instead,try learning the new operating system.give ur one week or two trying to stick with a user friendly distro like Ubuntu,Fedora etc.and not but the least,be prepared to use Terminal bash shell for any fixup's which needs using terminal.google for a shell intro.hardly 6 or 7 commands u need to remember.all commands are auto-completed by pressing TAB key after typing few words.

the term Linux is NOT Windows make sense,as people who are windows blinded can not stop expecting windowish behaviour from Linux!hence the link i gave is helpful!

I know, this is not for me but I just wanted to share this because you reminded me of it. I was having some serious problem with a map in America's Army. When I was using command line tools for analysing dumps, I was using cmd like bash shell, due to me having used bash past year. Then I suddenly realised that cmd support output redirection >> to files and also tab autocompletion in a different manner.

 

[mediator]

I never said I am expert in office. For quickly getting work done without doing crash course office 2k7 is easy. I didn't get marks for word processing, y subjects were technical report writing and heritage of india. I dont know if ooo has more features, but office 2k7 had all the features lableled and accessible.

Its ok. Just like on default install of windows nuthing is "accessible" like Office, messenger, out of box, drivers and security suites, may be many things might not be there with OOO similary? Shud I whine Linux is easy then coz it has gaim/pidgin (mutli messnger), OOO, wifi readily "accessible"? I was shocked to see wifi working on mah lappy before the install stage on the GUTSY boot CD.
I hope u understand that I wasn't asking for half explored one day experience stuff and trolls which has made this thread quite heavy.

 

[praka123]

I hope @adithya now knows nvidia has tools for gui configuration in Linux.thx for IRD's screenshot.also,nvidia-xconfig is useful for n00b's to make a /etc/X11/xorg.conf afresh

 

[adithyagenius]

@ infra red dude
I am refering to quickstyles and the ribbon interfece which provided all the features I needed within quick access. I felt quickstyles to be the best part. ooo had very little stuff for direct access. Many often used features were buried in menus which I can't remember and requires exploring. I went to neighbour rooms to ask people to teach me. They were using 2k7 and said its easier to learn and they were too busy themselves to teach me. Thats why I used 2k7 trial cd which was lying in the dust.

I hope @adithya now knows nvidia has tools for gui configuration in Linux.thx for IRD's screenshot.also,nvidia-xconfig is useful for n00b's to make a /etc/X11/xorg.conf afresh

I am actually having that installed. But I installed it going through shut down of x-server , downloading kernel-source and compiling from official driver. got a better way to do it finally.

 

[infra_red_dude]

@ infra red dude
I am refering to quickstyles and the ribbon interfece which provided all the features I needed within quick access. I felt quickstyles to be the best part. ooo had very little stuff for direct access. Many often used features were buried in menus which I can't remember and requires exploring.

I assure you that for most of the freq. used features you don't need to look deep inside. Yes, for some not-so-commonly used features you may hafta click twice or thrice more than what you do in MSO.

And there is no comparison between MSO and OOo. MSO is the king!

Plus there are n second thoughts that OOo interface needs to be made attractive.

Thats why I used 2k7 trial cd which was lying in the dust.

Trial CD... You are one clever fox!

Btw, one question: After the trial period is over..... tell me honestly... would you buy Office 2007? I'm not asking you to use a product with less features (OOo), I'm just interested to kno, wudja buy it?

But I installed it going through shut down of x-server , downloading kernel-source and compiling from official driver.

Any specific reason? Just curious, which nVidia GFX card do you use?

 

[praka123]

^whats the use of compiling from kernel source and nvidia-common.u can use "module-assistant" to make nvidia driver modules within seconds
though,i use custom compiled kernel for matter of optimization,speed and size.

 

[adithyagenius]

Btw, one question: After the trial period is over..... tell me honestly... would you buy Office 2007? I'm not asking you to use a product with less features (OOo), I'm just interested to kno, wudja buy it?


Any specific reason? Just curious, which nVidia GFX card do you use?

I dont do wordprocessing or any such office stuff. I very rarely get such work. I am expecting a lot of reports and presentations in my intership programme in summmer 08. I will do the office work in my father's office, if they upgrade to 2k7, else I will take help from office 2003 specialists in my father's office. I hope ooo implements 2k7 type UI by then.

 

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ ok

But you hafn't yet answered which nVidia card you use.

 

[Cyrus_the_virus]

^^^ ok

But you hafn't yet answered which nVidia card you use.

This is what he told right?

I have 17" CRT and XFX7600GT

 

[praka123]

^ a very well supported card!

 

[infra_red_dude]

Oops! Yes! my bad!

Yeah 7600GT is a very well supported card. May I know why exactly you compiled the driver. Rather which driver did you compile? nVidia provides only binary drivers, which is why it is not bundled with most Linux Distros.

 

[iMav]

well its interesting to see how easy linux is

 

[shady_inc]

well its interesting to see how easy linux is

It is actually fun to do stuff using the terminal.!! So much so that now I have even started using cmd in XP to get work done.!! .

@everyone: Don't just restrict yourself to one particular OS.Instead try out as many as you can.
DON'T LET YOUR FANBOYISM GET IN THE WAY OFR EXPLORING THE FEATURES OF OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS.!!
I use both Gutsy and XP on my PC and plan to install OpenSUSe and Mint soon.Too bad I can't use Vista because of high requirements... Seriously why did MS make an OS that would run with it's full glory only on high-end machines.?? .No wonder ppl prefer XP over Vista.
As far as Mac is concerned, Apple itself has restricted the Macs to their own hardware.Stupid ppl.. .But nice OS..

 

[gxsaurav]

@everyone: Don't just restrict yourself to one particular OS.Instead try out as many as you can.

This, I guess u r assuming that time isn't money.

Seriously why did MS make an OS that would run with it's full glory only on high-end machines.??

What according to u is High end system config today in 2007/2008?

 

[iMav]

@shady: i agree to ur pint of testing and exploring but i cant tell dad to install ubuntu on all office machines to explore (i hope u get my point) for us students; freelancers; fukat wele bandey its all fun but when it comes to getting wrk done id say windows is numero uno followed by os x and then any linux distro and yes certain courses and careers have need of certain applications which are mac exclusive and dont have an equivalent windows alternative courtesy application developers and not MS

 

[shady_inc]

This, I guess u r assuming that time isn't money.What according to u is High end system config today in 2007/2008?

1.] Kudos Christmas holidays, I am back to doing what I like the most i.e. messing around with my PC.
2.] 2 gb RAM, 128 Mb+ gfx card for optimal performance.??That too when I am perfectly OK with all visual effects disabled.??Ubuntu with Compiz works fine on my 1 gb 64 mb onboard gfx.

 

[gxsaurav]

2.] 2 gb RAM, 128 Mb+ gfx card for optimal performance.??That too when I am perfectly OK with all visual effects disabled.??

Actually, if you are going to disable all the effects then all u need is 512 MB RAM & Intel 865G/GeForce 4 MX level chipset or similar graphics card with 64 MB RAM

Ubuntu with Compiz works fine on my 1 gb 64 mb onboard gfx.

U said u were going to disable effects? Hey, how much does it costs for Geforce 6200 these days? Rs 1600 i think, & 1 GB is fine for Vista

 

[Garbage]

Actually, if you are going to disable all the effects then all u need is 512 MB RAM & Intel 865G/GeForce 4 MX level chipset or similar graphics card with 64 MB RAM

I think, no one is purchasing VISTA to DISABLE it's effect !!
And one of the major reason of VISTA selling is AERO !! Isn't it ??

 

[x3060]

right , but not fully , there is dx10 too . . but the games are crap , so yes areo . . but i see vista as another ME.2k was their best . then xp , too bad they discontinued 2k.

 

[gxsaurav]

In that case, he already has 1 GB RAM, all he needs is a Geforce FX 5200 with 128 MB RAM which can be bought 2nd hand today for Rs 1000 or less. This is just an example as I don't know what motherboard he has.

Is that "really high end system requirment" to run Vista? GeForce FX 5200 was released over 4 years back. Even Intel GMA 950 was released in 2005