The ultimate shootout: Apple Mac OS X vs. Microsoft Windows Vista

[Desi-Tek.com]

all in 1 codec for mac os x users

*rapidshare.com/files/36249380/osx_intel_codec_pack.zip

 

[gxsaurav]

Check *www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6

It's about installing a Core 2 Duo on a Mac Pro.

Thats is, Necpker you proved you are an Idiot. I was actually guessing that you will post the anandtech link. Here is something in case you don't know how to read english.

Codenamed Kenstfield (Core 2) and Clovertown (Xeon).Given that the Mac Pro features two LGA-771 sockets, you could theoretically drop two Clovertown processors in there and you'd have an 8-core Mac Pro.

We grabbed a pair of 2.4GHz Clovertown samples and tossed them in the system, and to our pleasure, they worked just fine. Our samples used a 1066MHz FSB,

, so what conclusion do we come up with? Mac Pro uses Xeon which uses LGA 771 Socket T interface while Core 2 Duo uses Socket 775. Mac Pro cannot have Core 2 Duo.

So, how will you upgrade? Oh wait, you will go to rbay & buy Expensive XEONs cos they are hardly available in retail. Then you will upgrade your Mac Pro, Wow.....

You are more moron then arya was.

It is not my fault nepcker if you have the understanding of a six-year-old.

One thing mac user might argue upon is that when clicking on an Image to see in "Preview" It looks quite nice, reason is that there is no window border. Just a toolbar at top & image below it.

Quicktime Picture viewer does the same thing on Windows but it is very very slow on Windows. Well, what can we expect from Apple who has no idea how to make softwares for Windows.

i did the same thing with ACDSee, nothing just a screenshot of some images in ACDsee & Quicktime Picture Viewer without any toolbar etc, just window mode. Spot any difference? We can do this in ACDSee & much more.

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[iMav]

wat OS are u on wall paper os x ka and the max, min & close buttons winows ka!

 

[gxsaurav]

That is Vista my friend, customised according to my own needs

 

[blackpearl]

Boy!! This is one of the best threads. Nobody had dissected Mac OS until now. Its really an eye opener. Should be submitted on digg.com.

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

That is Vista my friend, customised according to my own needs

I hope Arya doesn't make another ID n then start posting in this thread again now that nepcker's rants r ruled out

 

[goobimama]

Can someone explain to me this?
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I search for part of the filename but nothing shows up in the start search bar. It shows when searching in explorer.

And this?
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Why is the time wrong? Isn't it supposed to be showing the windows time?

 

[QwertyManiac]

Goobimama - I don't think the start menu search thing is used for files or folders apart from the ones inside the Programs menu and commands. Its not a full fledged search feature really .. Just searches stuff inside the user profile directories and WINDOWS directory, and maybe a few more I don't know of. But not just any random file on the HDD

And about the time, just check if the clock's locale is set the same as your required one? Else its, you know what, the Windows factor

 

[praka123]

with clock,may be it is using UTC?

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

Why is the time wrong? Isn't it supposed to be showing the windows time?

Nope it isn't , u can customize the clock to display any time you want and you can run as many instances of any gadget u want in the Sidebar

 

[sakumar79]

perhaps you should search for coldplay* or coldplay*.*?

Arun

 

[QwertyManiac]

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wat vista ur using..? dunno bout tat time ka jhol....mines showin correct...




k....it doesn't search whole hdd.....only Primary and programs.....


but dunno how it searched my D: but who cares!!!

That .. Doesnt look like its Vista. Is it really Vista? Or just a Start menu mod on XP?

 

[goobimama]

For what its worth, with spotlight, I don't even have to type in the full word. Even coldpl would have shown me those results instantly. And it searches the entire HDD.

I'm running Vista Ultimate retail version with all updates, but settings relatively unchanged. I even took the trouble to add the E: to the index but still no sign.

As for the clock, I haven't touched it. Its been there since I installed it. Only changed the theme of the clock cause the default one can be a bit ambiguous...

 

[QwertyManiac]

If Kenshin's thing is Vista, then thats funny cause he didnt add his drive for Indexing while you did, and yet it shows for him and not for you Vista hates you, stop using it use *nix

 

[gxsaurav]

Kenshin is indeed running Windows Vista with Aero disabled & HilledSE skin.

don't think the start menu search thing is used for files or folders apart from the ones inside the Programs menu and commands. Its not a full fledged search feature really .. Just searches stuff inside the user profile directories and WINDOWS directory, and maybe a few more I don't know of. But not just any random file on the HDD

It does. Just set to index whole harddisk & it will search the whole index for things right through start menu.

Vista start menu by default searches your user folder as that folder has music etc. While the advanced search searches the whole harddisk. You can set Vista start menu to search for file or folders too, to do this Right click on taskbar->properties>Start menu tab->customise & set it like this

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I even took the trouble to add the E: to the index but still no sign.

Now will you plz let it index once . I hope indexing service is on.

One really good thing which you can install in Vista is Start++ from Bradon Paddock. He works for Microsoft Windows Live search team & has created this application which is really handy.

 

[goobimama]

In the screenshot it shows Indexing complete. It has indexed over the past fifteen days.

Why does MS complicate things? For a regular user, who doesn't like to fiddle around with settings, the search becomes kind of useless.

On the other hand with Tiger...

 

[gxsaurav]

In the screenshot it shows Indexing complete. It has indexed over the past fifteen days.

Goobi, are those files saved at the default location of C:\Users\<username>\Music . I don't think so. Besides, I think you are having this due to some other problem cos it is working here & at kenshin's computer too.

Why does MS complicate things? For a regular user, who doesn't like to fiddle around with settings, the search becomes kind of useless.

Where does a regular user stores his Music & Movies? The default folders for movies & Music in C:\users\<username> which is included in search.

What is the default location of Music in Mac ? Music folder on Macintosh HD (primary), default player = iTunes & you cannot set any other player as default in Mac either (let me know if you can) which concludes to the fact that both spotlight & iTunes share the same database.

Besides, Instant search indexes everywhile....while Spotlight first indexes specific file formats or flags first. In my case search is instant in spotlight for wma pr mp4 file, but if I search for nvkext it takes like 5 seconds, well same goes with Vista. What is not indexed will take some time to search

 

[gxsaurav]

Well WWDC over & Mac genius is pwned. Lolz......so much for the "Top Secret" features.

Coverflow in Finder is another copy & enhancement of Already existing feature in Windows XP, the filmstrip.

Live Previews of files in form of thumbnail, hmm copied from Linux.

Just a video for those who might come & say "Quicklook is innovative & new". Windows already had Windows Preview since Vista Beta 1. Quicklook just opens it in another Window. Yup it is fast cos Quicklook engine is based on Quicktime technology which is all over Mac OS X.

Apple just blindly copying Windows Vista now

 

[nepcker]

Again, if I go by this analogy then Windows Explorer is far better then finder. Not only finder is slow but it doesn't let me work the way I want. Windows Explorer supports Cut as well as drag & drop, what will u cal better.

About your 2nd statement, isn't finder the default file manager for Mac OS X? so shouldn't this be a flaw of the OS itself. Suppose Windows Explorer disables the ability to show preview of files & videos, will you say it is a flaw of Windows Explorer or Will u say it is a flaw of Windows Vista. ? First think about what you are saying dude

It would have been a flaw of Mac OS X under the following circumstances:
(1) This was impossible to do on Mac OS X, or
(2) The OS X way was very difficult when compared to Windows.
Well, anyone above the age of three should find holding the Command key and dragging a fairly easy task.

The benifit of OpenGL is that it is cross platform. This means just make one code, one gaming engine & simply compile it according to the OS. Making it native to a paltform is not required. So accordign to you it is a flaw of Mac OS X that it can't run a cross platform gaming enigne :d

OpenGL is cross-platform, but some OS-specific code needs to be there.

Lolz...who are you trying to pwn here, yourself? Again saying "Buy a Mac cos you can game on it by installing Windows" what kind of statement is that. Why do u need a Mac, if you plan to install Windows on it to play games. Mac OS X sux for gaming & even you are saying this, Windows is far better.

Well, I'm posting the truth here. Mac OS X has very less games when compared to Windows. But if you buy a mac, you won't be unable to play the Windows-only games. And you don't need to live in Windows to run Windows games.

Try reading 10 pages behind this thread & you will come to know that they play fine in Quicktime with Flip4Mac but not in iTunes or any other compatible media player I was able to find, & that is the point. Now don't tell me "So, why don't u play in quicktime then". Quicktime is not an audio player.

And how is this Mac OS X's fault?
It would have been a flaw of Mac OS X under the following circumstances:
(1) Mac OS X couldn't play WMA files at all, and/or
(2) OS X had some code which would prevent the playing of WMA files.
But since OS X can play WMA files, it is not a flaw.

Mac OS X doesn't make it compulsory to use iTunes.

Which follows the mac philosophy : If Mac lacks a feature then that feature is not required. Gr8 Logic boy.

Window Vista & nVidia preface invented this technology. nVidia invented the hardware part & Vista invented the software part. You are yourself admitting how much behind Mac is in terms of technology.

I agree, this would be a great feature.

But since no Mac laptops today have smaller secondary screen, even if OS X supported this, it would be of no use. What's the use of a feature if you don't even have the supporting hardware?

Let's see if Apple adds secondary screen on Mac laptops or not...

No, Sorry. We are talking here about the OS & in 2007 I don't want to pay more to get DVR/TV functionality in my OS. Windows Vista prevails while Mac OS X sux cos it comes without any Media Center functionality.

Well, yes, Windows is better when it comes to Media Center functionality. But you can also achieve this in OS X, even if it is for a higher price.

Mac Pro cannot have Core 2 Duo.

Okay. Fine. I was wrong. Sorry.

*images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/MacPro/OnWindows/clovertowncores.jpg
*images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/MacPro/OnWindows/clovertowncores.jpg
I just saw the above link and thought that it was a Mac Pro with Core 2 Duo.

But you can get macs with Core 2 Duo.

 

[gxsaurav]

It would have been a flaw of Mac OS X under the following circumstances:
(1) This was impossible to do on Mac OS X, or
(2) The OS X way was very difficult when compared to Windows.
Well, anyone above the age of three should find holding the Command key and dragging a fairly easy task.

We are not talking about drag & drop. Ofcourse that will work, but Cut doesn't work & that is the main thing.

OpenGL is cross-platform, but some OS-specific code needs to be there.

That is compilation. Thats it.

you don't need to live in Windows to run Windows games.

Lolz...u mean you can install Windows on boot camp then simply install game anywhere & play in Mac? Wow, Live virtualisation it seems . nepcker don't u think u will need to boot into Windows to play it.

And how is this Mac OS X's fault.
It would have been a flaw of Mac OS X under the following circumstances:
(1) Mac OS X couldn't play WMA files at all, and/or
(2) OS X had some code which would prevent the playing of WMA files.
But since OS X can play WMA files, it is not a flaw.

I never said Mac OS X cannot play wma files, i think u need to get your english skills checked. I said clearly that iTunes cannot play WMA files while Quicktime can, despite of the fact that both have common backend.

But since no Mac laptops today have smaller secondary screen, even if OS X supported this, it would be of no use. What's the use of a feature if you don't even have the supporting hardware?

Well, then it is Apple's fault that they are behind in innovation & technology

Well, yes, Windows is better when it comes to Media Center functionality. But you can also achieve this in OS X, even if it is for a higher price.

How? We are talking about OS here at its defaut state. If I come to compared Vista with OS X with 3rd party apps installed then OS X stand 0% chances to survice.