The ultimate shootout: Apple Mac OS X vs. Microsoft Windows Vista
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
No, I will give you solutions and point out the features that you think do not exist.
Of course, if you post crap, I will have to say that it is crap (like gx_saurav keeps saying that you have to re-install Mac OS X every now and then).
OK. So this is the list of "flaws" in Mac OS X, and the myth-busting:
This is what Windows can also do. But you can do a lot more in Mac OS X:
1. Change the icon of the file and even put a picture in any format as the icon. So, for example, you can make the poster of a movie the icon for the ripped DVD movie you have.
2. Set that particular file to open with some particular application but all other files with that extension will remain unchanged.
3. Mark the file with some colour.
4. Watch video files in the preview pane.
But wait. You cannot even read HFS partitions in Windows.
OK. Bad Windows, good Mac OS X.
But in Windows, you have no option to have a separate layer for your widgets... uh, gadgets. And that is obviously the better way to do things.
Of course, Windows does not have the stretch-to-fit option either, which in most cases is the better option indeed - specially if you have a thirty inch monitor.
BTW, there is a free plug-in for Mac OS X (Megazoomer) that brings full screen functionality to most Mac applications. Find me a plug-in that does the opposite on Windows.
We are being taught how to use Adobe Creative Suite in my institute nowadays and not even a single shortcut is different.
And uh, BTW, Windows does not come with Office either.
OK, it is quite a simple procedure really. Click on the application and hold the mouse button down. Move your mouse and the application will move. It's moving? Good. Now move it to the translucent bar at the bottom of the screen (it is called a dock). You'll notice it makes space for the guest. Now just release the mouse button gently. See how it is now sitting cosily with the other applications? Good. Rest assured it won't go anywhere.
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(I haven't even started enumerating the pros of Mac OS X yet!)
Of course, if you post crap, I will have to say that it is crap (like gx_saurav keeps saying that you have to re-install Mac OS X every now and then).
OK. So this is the list of "flaws" in Mac OS X, and the myth-busting:
Select a file and hit 'Command + I', or right click on it and select 'Get Info'. There is a heading (written in simple English) that says "Open with:". Choose the application you want the file to open with from the drop down menu and then hit the 'Change All...' button. All the files having that particular extension will now open with that applications.
This is what Windows can also do. But you can do a lot more in Mac OS X:
1. Change the icon of the file and even put a picture in any format as the icon. So, for example, you can make the poster of a movie the icon for the ripped DVD movie you have.
2. Set that particular file to open with some particular application but all other files with that extension will remain unchanged.
3. Mark the file with some colour.
4. Watch video files in the preview pane.
Oh. Bad Mac OS X.
But wait. You cannot even read HFS partitions in Windows.
OK. Bad Windows, good Mac OS X.
Drag a widget onto the dashboard but don't drop it. Hit F12 and the widget will stay on top of the desktop. This functionality is pretty limited right now though.
But in Windows, you have no option to have a separate layer for your widgets... uh, gadgets. And that is obviously the better way to do things.
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Only the first line was necessary. The fact that instead of stretching and occupying the whole screen, leaving you looking at ten yards of blank white space on both sides of the webpage, Safari is wise enough to expand only as much as required is a good thing. The only thing that's missing is an additional option to stretch it to full screen sometimes.
Of course, Windows does not have the stretch-to-fit option either, which in most cases is the better option indeed - specially if you have a thirty inch monitor.
BTW, there is a free plug-in for Mac OS X (Megazoomer) that brings full screen functionality to most Mac applications. Find me a plug-in that does the opposite on Windows.
Drag the applications folder to the dock and then right click on it. There you have it, all your applications in a menu. I don't do it though. Quicksilver is the best way ever to launch applications and it is free.
Mac have 'Command + C' for copy, 'Command + X' for cut, 'Command + V' for paste, 'Command + N' for new, 'Command + S' for Save, 'Command + A' for select all, etc.
We are being taught how to use Adobe Creative Suite in my institute nowadays and not even a single shortcut is different.
The day WMP will play M4A or MOV, iTunes will play WMA and WMV.
And they are not PIM applications? They are better integrated than Microsoft can ever hope to achieve with Outlook. I save a person's contact details in Address Book and his/her birthday automatically gets added to iCal, his .Mac address to iChat and his email address to Mail. I can connect my Nokia 6300 via bluetooth and send SMSes to him through my Mac. Try doing that on Windows.
And uh, BTW, Windows does not come with Office either.
Oh really? Well, that's a good feature isn't it! You don't have to bother with dragging them to the trash can anymore, just drag them to the dock and woosh, there it goes. /sarcasm
Uh... tried dragging them to the dock yet? No?
OK, it is quite a simple procedure really. Click on the application and hold the mouse button down. Move your mouse and the application will move. It's moving? Good. Now move it to the translucent bar at the bottom of the screen (it is called a dock). You'll notice it makes space for the guest. Now just release the mouse button gently. See how it is now sitting cosily with the other applications? Good. Rest assured it won't go anywhere.
There is no way the colours on the screen of your Windows box will appear the same when printed. You can change all the profiles you want and do all your experiments. On a Mac, just print them as is and they will match colour-for-colour and shade-for-shade. Here in Arena Multimedia, my teacher always looks at the projects of other students on my Mac to assess how they will look in print. He told me I had a major advantage because of my Mac and my being in the creative field.
No, it isn't.
Click on the Bluetooth button in the menu bar and select the option 'Set up Bluetooth Device...'. It is pretty must straightforward from there for anyone over the age of twelve. In fact, even this was pretty straightforward stuff. You want to sync something over bluetooth and yet it somehow never occurred to you to check out the Bluetooth menu. WOW!
Exactly. Which means most phones will not synchronise by default. In fact, you cannot synchronise your phones with Vista even using the PC suites. I've tried it out with Nokia 6300 and the latest version of Nokia PC Suite. On a Mac, almost every phone is supported by default and you do not need any third party software. I use my phone as a modem, send SMSes from my Mac and read them on it too, send and accept calls, synchronise my address book and calendar - everything by default.
Oh, and Windows does? Macs come with an IM client that supports four protocols (Mac, AOL, Jabber and Bonjour) and has excellent audio/video capabilities. Windows comes with a messenger client that... oh wait, Windows does not come with any instant messenger client.
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(I haven't even started enumerating the pros of Mac OS X yet!)
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led_shankar
In Shamful Mystery
You're all extremely juvenile people here. I don't see how my choice of OS should piss you people off so much.
I use linux most often, because it is best for my purpose. I use Windows (XP) on my tablet PC, because it is the best OS for THAT PURPOSE. All these flame wars and pissing contests show a lack of maturity and all three of you are guilty of it. Look at iMav's sig - what crap. There is a place for every OS, and instead of incendiary remarks, try and be constructive. There is a big difference in being a fan of a particular OS (or software or whatever) and being rabidly opposed to another one. I suggest that the three of you learn to function as human beings before you try to learn using an OS.
I use linux most often, because it is best for my purpose. I use Windows (XP) on my tablet PC, because it is the best OS for THAT PURPOSE. All these flame wars and pissing contests show a lack of maturity and all three of you are guilty of it. Look at iMav's sig - what crap. There is a place for every OS, and instead of incendiary remarks, try and be constructive. There is a big difference in being a fan of a particular OS (or software or whatever) and being rabidly opposed to another one. I suggest that the three of you learn to function as human beings before you try to learn using an OS.
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
Who asked for your sagely advice?
We come to have fun here and this is our idea of having fun. If you have a problem with it, stop visiting threads such as this one. We have enough of babas and gurus in India to go around with and we certainly don't need another one dishing out free advice.
We come to have fun here and this is our idea of having fun. If you have a problem with it, stop visiting threads such as this one. We have enough of babas and gurus in India to go around with and we certainly don't need another one dishing out free advice.
led_shankar
In Shamful Mystery
Right, so in course of having "fun", you destroy any chance of having a meaningful discussion in a very specific forum (last time I checked, this was a tech forum), turning any and every thread into a slugfest.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
HFS not being readable by windows is bad coz do it u need to purchase an app however for reading ntfs on mac its free (which means pple want ntfs readable on a mac) 
and besides tht was neither a good point nor a bad just pointed tht out
in vista u can drag ur gadgets to the desktop
and as far as dragging to the dock i have told u that u cant add a folder to ur left of the dock ...
and u said somewhere about dragging to trash ... only fools drag things to recycle bin or trash ... sensible ppl right click and delete or move to trash
in vista u get msn which can be used to chat with yahoo members
gx is talking about theming ur OS
PS: no point talking anything coz fatbeing, raabo or mehul will come and lock this thread also .... : so well lets be happy with our OS and im sorry fellow members we cannot tell u how a MAC OS X looks and works coz the mods and other members dont want us to
and besides tht was neither a good point nor a bad just pointed tht out in vista u can drag ur gadgets to the desktop
and as far as dragging to the dock i have told u that u cant add a folder to ur left of the dock ...
and u said somewhere about dragging to trash ... only fools drag things to recycle bin or trash ... sensible ppl right click and delete or move to trash
in vista u get msn which can be used to chat with yahoo members
gx is talking about theming ur OS
PS: no point talking anything coz fatbeing, raabo or mehul will come and lock this thread also .... :
so well lets be happy with our OS and im sorry fellow members we cannot tell u how a MAC OS X looks and works coz the mods and other members dont want us to 
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
yeah , this behaviour felt a bit awkward , coz hitting delete is infinitely faster than draggning anything to trash and if there's a two-key shortcut to just delete a file then it kills the purpose of the shortcut.iMav said:
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
Did I say you cannot?iMav said:in vista u can drag ur gadgets to the desktop
And the point is? In Vista, you cannot place a file in the title bar of a window and you cannot drag an application onto the clock! What sense does this point make? You are supposed to keep your applications on the left and the other things on the right. Simple.iMav said:
I can say that fools go to the trouble of right clicking and then deleting, "sensible ppl" drag files to the trash. Another person will come along saying that fools do either and that "sensible ppl" used the keyboard. It is different for different people. But in Mac OS X, you can use all three methods. Tell me how will you drag a file to the recycle bin when an explorer window is maximised. You cannot. Mac users, in general, always prefer drag and drop to right clicking.iMav said:
On Mac OS X, you get Adium "which can be used to chat with" AOL, Windows Live, Yahoo!, ICQ, Jabber, Bonjour, Google Talk, Apple .Mac, Lotus Sametime, Novel Groupwise, QQ, Gadu-Gadu and Live Journal Talk members.iMav said:in vista u get msn which can be used to chat with yahoo members
That is beside that point. Windows does not ship with an IM client while Mac OS X does, and a very capable one at that.
Yes, there is no option of theming the operating system by default. One of the three geniune drawbacks that have already been mentioned.iMav said:gx is talking about theming ur OS
WOW! Another gx_saurav in the making. Now that you've run out of points and your tail is between your legs (metaphorically speaking), you've started showing up with lame excuses. You were all excited about trying Mac OS X and then posting the drawbacks unbiasedly. Now that you have the opportunity and I have given the explanation for whatever you've come up with so far, you're suddenly afraid of FatBeing. LOL!iMav said:PS: no point talking anything coz fatbeing, raabo or mehul will come and lock this thread also .... :
You have the OS and I'm challenging you to post the negatives (for the last fifteen posts). Do it, c'mon. Refute whatever I've said in the previous post explaining your so called "unbiased drawbacks". Can you? No, because - ironically enough - this is "the truth revealed".
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
It is two keys on Windows too - Delete and Enter. On Windows, the shortcut is just one key and then there is a confirmation dialog in case you hit it by mistake. In Mac OS X, there is a two key shortcut that is just as easy to hit but you cannot press accidentally, so there is no need of a confirmation dialog. Both methods are equally effective and neither is better or worse than the other.Zeeshan Quireshi said:
I use this when my hand is on the keyboard and drag the file to the trash when I'm operating the mouse.
All you guys are doing can be accurately summed up in one word, "nit-picking".
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
no actually the last point is thanx to the locking of the previous thread and as far as gadgets are concernd widgets on desktop 
arya about the deleting thing get a life dude read again what u just typed ... its stupid (honestly)
and as far as docking somehing is concerned again read what u posted in the previous post and what my reply is its not about knowing how to drag but where to drag what **** are u talking by moving apps to the taskbar ...
now u dont even know the difference between the dock and the taskbar
i never said im posting the negatives im revealing facts thts what we did in the previous post which got locked ... now u quoted almost everything how about the first point i mentioned
arya about the deleting thing get a life dude read again what u just typed ... its stupid (honestly)
and as far as docking somehing is concerned again read what u posted in the previous post and what my reply is its not about knowing how to drag but where to drag
what **** are u talking by moving apps to the taskbar ...now u dont even know the difference between the dock and the taskbar
i never said im posting the negatives im revealing facts thts what we did in the previous post which got locked ... now u quoted almost everything how about the first point i mentioned
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
What! What's stupid about it!iMav said:
You are not supposed to drag your applications onto the clock in Windows, right? Similarly, you're not supposed to place folders on the left side of the dock. WTH is so complicated about it that you have to be explained like a toddler! I used the OS the first time too but I never had trouble figuring out where I was supposed to keep what in the dock. By default, you have applications on the left and a link and the trash on the right. The trash is a folder. Doesn't all this give you a visual cue of how things are supposed to be done? Won't it get messy if you dump all your folders and applications together? And anyway, when you try dragging a folder onto the left and the applications do not make space for it, doesn't common sense dictate you to try moving it across the clearly demarcated region on the left of the dock. I've seen a lot of Windows switchers but none of them was stupid enough to think that dragging something onto the dock will delete it and I simply cannot believe that a bunch of well educated teenagers are having trouble dragging a folder onto something as simple as the dock in Mac OS X. LOL!iMav said:and as far as docking somehing is concerned again read what u posted in the previous post and what my reply is its not about knowing how to drag but where to drag
So reveal the facts. Reveal some more of them.iMav said:i never said im posting the negatives im revealing facts thts what we did in the previous post which got locked ... now u quoted almost everything how about the first point i mentioned
blackpearl
The Devil
led_shankar said:
The only sane person here!!
led_shankar said:
That's exactly what I'm thinking. And read and reread the statement in bold.
I use WinXP (sometimes linux too), somebody else uses linux or Mac. So what?
I use Opera, somebody uses firefox.
I use DAP, somebody uses IDM.
I use nod32, somebody kaspersky.
Does that mean I should fight with everybody who doesn't use my software?
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
WOW! I can (sort of) feel the pain of iMav. Poor tyke thought he would use Mac OS X for a few days and then make a list of all the reasons why it is a lousy operating system and post it for the world to see. Turns out he could come it with only one decent negative - it does not have the cut option when you right click on a file.
Now, he's posting it in every other post he makes and has even made it his signature.
Have you ever reflected on what this sounds like:
"Windows might lack in security but atleast it has a cut option"
Being bombarded by malware is a problem on the same level of having to delete a file after you have copied it onto another drive!? LOL!
What will you say the next time someone asks you why you use Windows? "It has the cut option."
Now, he's posting it in every other post he makes and has even made it his signature.
Have you ever reflected on what this sounds like:
"Windows might lack in security but atleast it has a cut option"
Being bombarded by malware is a problem on the same level of having to delete a file after you have copied it onto another drive!? LOL!
What will you say the next time someone asks you why you use Windows? "It has the cut option."
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
well as i said earlier most of us dont work for the cia, kgb, raw so dont care so much for the security part and me have never said that mac is bad all we have said it has its short comings and it is wrong for its users to pronounce it as the best os and yeah mac doesnt allow u cut damn
and yeah mac doesnt allow u cut damn
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
Everything on Earth has shortcomings. BMW's cars have shortcomings too but it does not change the fact that they make the best cars. Mac OS X has shortcomings too - doesn't change the fact that it is the best operating system.
I'm just giving you guys time. Even I could name more drawbacks in Mac OS X than you guys have.
When I'll start with the list of positives, you'll be seeking cover.
And just to make sure that this (very important) post does not get buried in all the others posts that are going to follow (and I don't have to address the same points again later), I'm re-quoting it from the first page:
I'm just giving you guys time. Even I could name more drawbacks in Mac OS X than you guys have.
When I'll start with the list of positives, you'll be seeking cover.
And just to make sure that this (very important) post does not get buried in all the others posts that are going to follow (and I don't have to address the same points again later), I'm re-quoting it from the first page:
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