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FilledVoid
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
And no the -w option will not install it . It will only download to your cache.
The packages you specify.
And no the -w option will not install it . It will only download to your cache.
MetalheadGautham
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
No its not. BSNL has this issue of frequent disconnections, every 8 minutes or so. The download just stops, and unlike apt-get, pacman does not try to do anything to resume download. I need to manually restart the PC by opening up another VC then typing reboot. Then I need to login again and do an rm /var/something/somethingelse/cache.lck then I need to redo the install command and say Y. THIS IS MADDENING.yeah i know it wont install only cache it
seems like a good option for NU users
MetalheadGautham
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
the router reconnects automatically. but download does not resumewtf restart the PC ? Just restart the router
MetalheadGautham
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
I just need to download 30MB, and since out of my 2.5GB limit, only 0.9GB is used this month, (thanks to never ending wait and my patience with arch) I am prepared to spend the rest on daytime downloads when Arch Mirror is quite fast.
When FilledVoid said Arch Mirror gives good speeds in morning, I expected 70kbps. I got it. For a SECOND. Then I got 20-30kbps and I was still contended since others were even more horrible.
since perl is in core repo, is python also in the same and hence already installed ?
OK. But I first want to get the GUI ready and working with a basic IceWM install.
I just need to download 30MB, and since out of my 2.5GB limit, only 0.9GB is used this month, (thanks to never ending wait and my patience with arch) I am prepared to spend the rest on daytime downloads when Arch Mirror is quite fast.
When FilledVoid said Arch Mirror gives good speeds in morning, I expected 70kbps. I got it. For a SECOND. Then I got 20-30kbps and I was still contended since others were even more horrible.
gary4gar
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
70kBps is slow
is arch running short of bandwidth?since perl is in core repo, is python also in the same and hence already installed ?
OK. But I first want to get the GUI ready and working with a basic IceWM install.
I just need to download 30MB, and since out of my 2.5GB limit, only 0.9GB is used this month, (thanks to never ending wait and my patience with arch) I am prepared to spend the rest on daytime downloads when Arch Mirror is quite fast.
When FilledVoid said Arch Mirror gives good speeds in morning, I expected 70kbps. I got it. For a SECOND. Then I got 20-30kbps and I was still contended since others were even more horrible.
70kBps is slow
Pat
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
Their main server is throttled at 50 KBps. Other mirrors are fine. I get more than 1 MBps download speeds from German mirrors.
Buggier ? Really ?
Their main server is throttled at 50 KBps. Other mirrors are fine. I get more than 1 MBps download speeds from German mirrors.
still anyone sticking with archlinux remaining?
Buggier ? Really ?
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MetalheadGautham
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
yo guys wassup ? posting this from a minimalistic arch install with xorg, intel drivers, icewm and firefox, with emelfm added for file management.
yo guys wassup ? posting this from a minimalistic arch install with xorg, intel drivers, icewm and firefox, with emelfm added for file management.
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FilledVoid
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
Not unless you would like to manually install the packages again when you wake up. Why nto just run pacman -S --noconfirm packagename ?? This downloads it and installs it also.
Not unless you would like to manually install the packages again when you wake up. Why nto just run pacman -S --noconfirm packagename ?? This downloads it and installs it also.
Unfortunately I can't help you out if your connection goes haywire. You could also remove the cache.lck on booting up also but then again if your connection goes haywire you would have to be awake to re-login.
I'm not the official spokesperson for ArchLinux but in any case did you happen to run the rankmirrors script and did you remove the Archlinux ftp as I mentioned earlier? Unixheads always gives me more than 70 kbps anytime I run it. Its not only you but I and Abhinand have the speed issues when we try to download in free time. Is it possible that the time you tried downloading was 2 - 8 am . Why not try out running a small install at 10-11 am and see if that changes anything . I doubt it will for you but its worth a try.
I'm still on Arch and I find it more stable than Ubuntu to be frank. if I'm correct the people on Arch now is Kalpik, Me, Pat, Abhinand, T159 and Mehulved. I might of missed some names though. From what I hear Garbage and Hullap is installing and I think Aditya has it installed as well.
Hes an exceptionally rare case. I've been running updates fine since they day of install and I've been getting quite good speeds. Your experience may vary I guess. There are folks in ArchLinux forums that are easily getting 500-600 kbps.
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MetalheadGautham
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
Originally, when I heard that the mirror is throttled to 50kbps, I thought it really IS throttled and we all get same 50kbps speed. But I guess I was wrong.
I have no idea why I am getting low speeds, but while you guys get low speeds on IIT Madras, I get insanely high speeds, and while you guys get cool speeds on taiwan and nazi mirrors, I get SICK speeds.
Could my DNS Server be responsible for this ? I use the OpenDNS servers...
Arch is indeed much more stable than Ubuntu, and a hell lot easier to use as well. Even in my minimalistic IceWM install, which I need to access with startx command, everything is just too neat and organised, with an elegent simplistic approach to all configurations. Unlike ubuntu/debian, which seriously lacked doccumentation in configuration files, in Arch I can learn everything about a file just by reading its comments. Such ease of use I have never seen anywhere else.
I am downloading kdemod-complete as we speak, so I can't use the rankmirrors script right now.
Yes, during 6pm onwards time, I get really good speeds like 200kbps. But in NU, which is THE time I need to be installing, speeds suddenly start to crawl.
Originally, when I heard that the mirror is throttled to 50kbps, I thought it really IS throttled and we all get same 50kbps speed. But I guess I was wrong.
I have no idea why I am getting low speeds, but while you guys get low speeds on IIT Madras, I get insanely high speeds, and while you guys get cool speeds on taiwan and nazi mirrors, I get SICK speeds.
Could my DNS Server be responsible for this ? I use the OpenDNS servers...
Arch is indeed much more stable than Ubuntu, and a hell lot easier to use as well. Even in my minimalistic IceWM install, which I need to access with startx command, everything is just too neat and organised, with an elegent simplistic approach to all configurations. Unlike ubuntu/debian, which seriously lacked doccumentation in configuration files, in Arch I can learn everything about a file just by reading its comments. Such ease of use I have never seen anywhere else.
I am downloading kdemod-complete as we speak, so I can't use the rankmirrors script right now.
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FilledVoid
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Re: The Dark Side :Arch Linux
Uncomment the line for IceWm in the .xinitrc file. the you won't have to use startx to access IceWM.
If you install stuff in that time from 6-8 you would generally be installing more than you would from 2-6 with crappy speeds. Comparison done with 20 and 200kbps of course.