Sony Xperia 2013 Thread

[aroraanant]

and we can only hope if this ever gets launched here, they better remember this is India.

Butterfly is launched here much sooner when compared to other countries so I guess this time also they will launch it soon.

 

[randomuser111]

@randomuser Do you know the user available RAM on Xperia Z? Couldn't find anything on google. On 1080p devices like DNA and One it is 1.5GB and 512MB is allocated to vRAM. Same for Xperia Z? Not that it matters. Just curious

It's around 1.6 GB I guess. Light usage you get up to 1.4GB free. Will confirm and tell you later

 

[furious_gamer]

Won't GPU have it's own vRAM? Like in desktop GPU's? Just asking.

 

[marvelousprashant]

Won't GPU have it's own vRAM? Like in desktop GPU's? Just asking.

Adreno and Mali don't have a dedicated vRAM. Tegra and PowerVR have. This could be an issue with 1080p devices where 500mb of RAM is allocated to GPU (confirmed on Droid DNA and HTC One) Sense UI + services will take up additional 400-500 mb and you are left with 1gb of ram for multitasking.

Nexus 4 has around 1.6 gb free for multitasking and around 1.8gb after reboot

 

[rider]

Adreno and Mali don't have a dedicated vRAM. Tegra and PowerVR have. This could be an issue with 1080p devices where 500mb of RAM is allocated to GPU (confirmed on Droid DNA and HTC One) Sense UI + services will take up additional 400-500 mb and you are left with 1gb of ram for multitasking.

Nexus 4 has around 1.6 gb free for multitasking and around 1.8gb after reboot

Nexus 4 gives ultimate android experience. No matter how many apps are open it works like charm. 2GB RAM is need of high end 2013 smartphones.

For comparison to Xperia Z. Here is the Antutu benchmark of new HTC One

*pbs.twimg.com/media/BDmojZdCIAAy0Dv.jpg

 

[randomuser111]

^^

Xperia Z scores 20800 or so. Its the Nexus 4 that turns out to be the loser scoring 17000 in Antutu

 

[tkin]

Adreno and Mali don't have a dedicated vRAM. Tegra and PowerVR have. This could be an issue with 1080p devices where 500mb of RAM is allocated to GPU (confirmed on Droid DNA and HTC One) Sense UI + services will take up additional 400-500 mb and you are left with 1gb of ram for multitasking.

Nexus 4 has around 1.6 gb free for multitasking and around 1.8gb after reboot

You sure? Cause on my L9(SGX540) max ram showed is 785MB, so the UI etc takes 215MB? But not the GPU?

Nexus 4 gives ultimate android experience. No matter how many apps are open it works like charm. 2GB RAM is need of high end 2013 smartphones.

For comparison to Xperia Z. Here is the Antutu benchmark of new HTC One

*pbs.twimg.com/media/BDmojZdCIAAy0Dv.jpg

When will this end? I don't believe this, goes to show how unoptimized android is, Win 7 runs fine on 2GB, though you can't use chrome, that's another memory hog, I use opera for browsing, fine with 2GB, I even played AC3 with no slowdowns.

^^

Xperia Z scores 20800 or so. Its the Nexus 4 that turns out to be the loser scoring 17000 in Antutu

Price vs performance, can you get an unlocked Z for $199?

 

[marvelousprashant]

^ Not all models have vRAM. Latest ones like SGX543/544, 55x and 6xx (rouge series) have vRAM.

 

[randomuser111]

@tkin

Nexus 4 has the same chip as Z but its behind performance wise, which is not cool. Also as for the price, I dont need to explain to you why its cheap. Its not cheap because its a cheap phone compared to Z but due to Google's wish. Part of the reason why most OEMs are no longer interested in making a nexus device।

Optimus G is the LG version of N4 and you know well how much that costs, though it doesnt suffer from thermal throttling like in N4 and is much more stable

 

[tkin]

^ Not all models have vRAM. Latest ones like SGX543/544, 55x and 6xx (rouge series) have vRAM.

Makes sense

@tkin

Nexus 4 has the same chip as Z but its behind performance wise, which is not cool. Also as for the price, I dont need to explain to you why its cheap. Its not cheap because its a cheap phone compared to Z but due to Google's wish. Part of the reason why most OEMs are no longer interested in making a nexus device।

Optimus G is the LG version of N4 and you know well how much that costs, though it doesnt suffer from thermal throttling like in N4 and is much more stable

That's what I am saying, you pay more, you get better, the Asus Padfone 2 has the same chip, but its a lot faster than Z or Butterfly etc, check out the engadget reviews, it all boils down to how much you can optimize the drivers for the device. And being a Nexus device, LG simply didn't optimize it enough, neither did google, since its all about vanilla OS, still, can't beat Nexus 4 for that price.

 

[randomuser111]

True that tkin

 

[marvelousprashant]

Problem with Nexus is thermal throttling. Anandtech benchmarked it inside deep freeze and it performs much better... which sounds funny

 

[tkin]

Problem with Nexus is thermal throttling. Anandtech benchmarked it inside deep freeze and it performs much better... which sounds funny

Liquid cooling

 

[rider]

Well as far as I know. Nexus phones don't perform incredible in benchmarks but the real life day to day performance and user accessibility is much smoother, mature and versatile. May be because it's pure google android experience. I believe Xperia Z would turn out to be great device in stock jellybean 4.2.2 ROM.

Problem with Nexus is thermal throttling. Anandtech benchmarked it inside deep freeze and it performs much better... which sounds funny

They done this test to confirm the thermal throttling. Every computer device performs exothermic reaction and definitely performs its best in low temperature.

^^

Xperia Z scores 20800 or so. Its the Nexus 4 that turns out to be the loser scoring 17000 in Antutu

It's 17500 and compare the price man! for 22-23k bucks (imported) this score is incredible. The phone is an example of value for money product.

 

[randomuser111]

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Whatever. But you said Xperia Z comparison and Xperia Z is nowhere in that pic u attached.

Anyways yes, for the price N4 is a beast. No doubt. Much better value than Xperia Z/ HTC One or any other phone.

 

[rider]

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Whatever. But you said Xperia Z comparison and Xperia Z is nowhere in that pic u attached.

Anyways yes, for the price N4 is a beast. No doubt. Much better value than Xperia Z/ HTC One or any other phone.

Did Sony showed Xperia Z's benchmarks officially?

 

[randomuser111]

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Then don't post "Xperia Z benchmark comparison with ONE" when it isn't even listed. Write Nexus 4 comparison instead.

Xperia Z Antutu from GSMArena

*i.imgur.com/GqTFTro.jpg

 

[rider]

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Then don't post "Xperia Z benchmark comparison with ONE" when it isn't even listed. Write Nexus 4 comparison instead.

Xperia Z Antutu from GSMArena

*i.imgur.com/GqTFTro.jpg

No, I asked: Did Sony officially showed benchmarks of XZ?

 

[randomuser111]

Sony doesn't show any benchmarks or whatever. That's not Sony Style That is Apple/HTC/Samsung style

 

[rider]

Sony doesn't show any benchmarks or whatever. That's not Sony Style

Well as I can see new HTC One beaten XZ with a fair margin in antutu. I liked its ultrapixel tech camera. it seems to be legendary. The performance in low light/night is incredible.

See this:

Spoiler

*pbs.twimg.com/media/BDmpyGpCYAAG5-3.jpg