Reservation System - Should it exist?

[red dragon]

History has such proofs my dear friend because ST/SCs have been oppressed for many years...they were not given a fair chance to prove themselves...many generations followed this trend and they all fell back...

Supreme Court has said that the reservation is required not only for the economic but social upliftment as well...so such cut-off is not feasible...
I am not in favor of reservation...but I fully respect Supreme Court of India...



I do not agree...though some of them (who get reservations) may belong to the kind you are mentioning but not all. I am not in medical profession but I have four very close friends who belong to backward class and are masters in this profession...

Well you have four,I have forty ,they have master degrees alright,but they really know nothing when you compare them with specialists(MD,DM,MS ,MCh etc) from general class.It is difficult to judge one professional`s knowledge and skill when you are not in that profession or speciality,and I am talking about medical teachers not practicing doctors.

 

[gagan007]

red dragon, I can judge people based on their knowledge about other things in life. My experience in life has taught me that. I have not fully denied your point but you know it that you are exaggerating. You are stamping all backward class students as fools which is not the case.

And why medical only, there are thousands of engineering professionals also who go on in life to build bridges/buildings which would be used by public, it runs the risk of failure too if these ppl have not studied well. But doesn't that include general category students too?There are many in general category who flunk classes, always clear paper on the edge or worse are just the kind who write down answers as it is from book but in real do not understand a word...

 

[red dragon]

No man I am not exaggerating.I have seen general good students studying real hard for months could not get into their desired speciality after scoring 65% where as a quota guy with a score of 45% got in with ease.I am not saying that they are dumb or anything,they do not work hard but somehow they get what they want only because they have special surnames.
I was never bothered about this quota thing before(lucky ,that I got through all the entrance exams relatively easily),but for last six months or so I am teaching these young aspiring medicos and I really think it is not fair.I have seen some students who did not see the sun for 3 months together before the PG entrance.Still some of them failed to make the cut.It breaks my heart.
They should remove this thing atleast from the speciality and super speciality level.I guess this applies to engineering also.

 

[gagan007]

I was never bothered about this quota thing before(lucky ,that I got through all the entrance exams relatively easily),but for last six months or so I am teaching these young aspiring medicos and I really think it is not fair.I have seen some students who did not see the sun for 3 months together before the PG entrance.Still some of them failed to make the cut.It breaks my heart.
They should remove this thing atleast from the speciality and super speciality level.I guess this applies to engineering also.

got your point now...that is sad really...

 

[abhijangda]

ok let me tell u whats written in JEE-2010 brochure.

In case all the reserved seats of SC/ST/PD candidates are not filled, a limited number of candidates are admitted to a Preparatory Course of one-year duration on the basis of a further relaxation. This course attempts to prepare the students in Chemistry, Mathematics and Physics. On successful completion of the course, the students will be offered a direct admission to the undergraduate programmes in July 2011, against the unfilled reserved seats of JEE-2010.

so see, what they do. they didn't study seriously and get everything. Those who are in general and who study hard, loose their deserving seats to these non-deserving students. i belongs to backward caste but in creamy layer, so can't get the reservation. one of my frnd, who didn't study regularly and said i have reservation, why not use it. even his both parents have good salary. this is the mindset of people, they didn't study too much and use their privilige of reservation to get what they don't deserve. This have put up a great pressure on general students. reservation system is killing our education system.!!! and we are facing it.

 

[gagan007]

i belongs to backward caste but in non-creamy layer, so can't get the reservation.

sorry...don't quite get this point...if you are BC and in non-creamy layer, who could deny you your reserved seats if you are eligible...?

this is the mindset of people, they didn't study too much and use their privilige of reservation to get what they don't deserve.

mindset of people!!! every person belonging to BC knows that they do not have unlimited seats reserved for them...they also have to fight among themselves...

Mindsets belong to people actually (generally speaking)...not to any caste.

 

[metalfan]

IF the Govt. wants to give them reservation let them stay in their homes and give them wages . Atleast people will be saved from getting killed by Doctors with half info. (My own watchmen died due to wrong medications by a safdarjung hospital's doctor and guess what he had that special caste)

 

[Raghav Talwar]

Atleast people will be saved from getting killed by Doctors with half info. (My own watchmen died due to wrong medications by a safdarjung hospital's doctor and guess what he had that special caste)

Dude!
I couldn't agree more. I've seen people dying in government hospitals.

I think government should help the poor strata of society - provide more scolarships etc.
I mean, I'm in Panjab University. Studied hard to get to this place. Two of my classmates have taken admission in the reserved category. One's dad is a rich lawyer and the other's is a multi-millionaire industrialist.

Do these guys really need reservations?