Ethan_Hunt
Aspiring Novelist
Here we go again!
I can talk about infinite possibilities of what a PC can churn out, but I know that it's already been done. Multiple monitor support for expanded resolutions, Stereo 3D gaming etc. You are just sticking to numbers and XYZ possibilities that PS3 "can" do, not has done.
WOW! Now this I need to really witness in a couple of years now.
Regarding you FPS query, PC can push frame rates of above 200+ but that's besides the point. PC has been there, done that. So PS3 has got some ground to cover before it plans to cross that barrier.
As for PS2, well even during it's time PC gaming was vastly superior in terms of graphical prowess as opposed to it. Xbox had better specifications when it released, than the PS2, however due to sh*tty title line up, it failed. PS2 had pushed the envelope of it's power with God of War I, II and Black. God of War had come out exactly after 4 years of it's console launch. Same goes for God of War 3 now. So let's wait and see how much envelope is pushed time time. From the preview, it looks stunning.
*forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Check out the list of titles which natively support 1080p and which games are rendered on lower resolutions on the console. I hope this clears your doubt now. You'll also understand why it's really sad that consoles that "may" be having the potential to raise the graphics bar, are being rendered at such pathetic resolutions.
BTW the analogy is flawed. If you run try to "upscale" a 720p based game, you won't be too happy with the result on a very large screen. I think you'll understand the concept once you get the console and play a multi-plat title like Modern Warfare 2 on both platforms and then tell me which is superior and crisp.
If you think that I'm against the PS3 or a blinded PC fanboy, then you couldn't be more wrong. I have experienced this first hand and letting you know from personal experience. If you still don't want to accept it, then it's you're call. I admire the PS3 for it's exclusive titles and had it not been for them, I wouldn't have even bothered buying the console. I can bet you every single title which is currently available for the PS3 can easily be made for PC as well. So it's not like the PS3 is some godly machine in which the exclusives made for it, can only work on it.
Either your reading skills are really poor or your not ready to understand what I'm trying to say. XFPS adapter is an additional accessory needed for mouse and keyboard support to actually customise 'A' particular game. When you said PS3 has "support" for HID devices, then it doesn't out rightly support keyboard and mouse out of the box configuration for gaming. Do you know how much pain it is to actually get these accessories to work properly with game and not to mention it's compatibility rate?
I specifically asked this was because this was all you had to show in defence and I don't see any strong results. Tell me before buying the console, do you see these specs and buy it or do you look at the exclusive titles and buy it? I for sure would go for the latter. I totally forgot, you were going to buy the console, correct? Tell me, are you planning to buy multi-platform titles for it which also come out on the PC?
I can talk about infinite possibilities of what a PC can churn out, but I know that it's already been done. Multiple monitor support for expanded resolutions, Stereo 3D gaming etc. You are just sticking to numbers and XYZ possibilities that PS3 "can" do, not has done.
You keep saying it works differently in PS3 over and over again. OK, I'll take it that everything works differently on this console. So you're saying even the brightest of the modern day LCD's aren't good enough for a PS3 to display it's 1080p resolution? *cough* 720p *cough*
WOW! Now this I need to really witness in a couple of years now.
Wait so you mean to tell me you have actually spoken to game developer who has explained to you how complex game development for console is as opposed to PC coding? I thought the game developers try to optimise the maximum potential for consoles these days as opposed to PC. Case in point: All the busted console ports are just being dumped on PC. Except for Capcom and a few other developers who actually bother holding back their releases and optimise their games to realise the true potential for PC gaming. Haven't you read game developers interviews or heard them speak how PC development requires a lot of work and more detail goes into enhancing the graphical capability? It's because they know how it would look on it. So I don't see any excuse as to why game developers can't spend enough time on the console coding when it's now a major platform for their development.
Regarding you FPS query, PC can push frame rates of above 200+ but that's besides the point. PC has been there, done that. So PS3 has got some ground to cover before it plans to cross that barrier.
As for PS2, well even during it's time PC gaming was vastly superior in terms of graphical prowess as opposed to it. Xbox had better specifications when it released, than the PS2, however due to sh*tty title line up, it failed. PS2 had pushed the envelope of it's power with God of War I, II and Black. God of War had come out exactly after 4 years of it's console launch. Same goes for God of War 3 now. So let's wait and see how much envelope is pushed time time. From the preview, it looks stunning.
You to actually play on it to experience it.
I'm not talking about a TV. It's about the game's box. BTW on a TV it's mean that it can accept signals upto 1080p on the console games, it doesn't necessarily translate to the same thing. The box may say 1080i support, but in reality it's 720p. I don't think you're ready to understand what I'm trying to say. Anyway, here's a link that can enlighten you (hopefully!):
*forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Check out the list of titles which natively support 1080p and which games are rendered on lower resolutions on the console. I hope this clears your doubt now. You'll also understand why it's really sad that consoles that "may" be having the potential to raise the graphics bar, are being rendered at such pathetic resolutions.
*SIGH* I don't think you get my point. It's been poorly optimised for PC as well. However, it looks and runs far better on the PC with all the customisations. It's not just GTA but pretty much every multi-platform title which has come out, looks and runs much better on the PC as opposed to PS3, FIFA being the exception. I don't see why no god dam game developer till now is trying to utilise all the spec power that you keep blabbering about. Is this a conspiracy theory?
I don't know of these guys you speak of and not sure how you concluded they are not satisfied with their specs, but the main moto of PC gamers is to get value for your money. I paid 12 grand for my card back when it came out and it still plays many of the titles properly. It's been 2 years now. I got it's worth and for the IQ it has provided with games, I'm entirely satisfied. I know what it's capabilities are and I appreciate that. So I'm not one of those cribathons who keep complaining of hardware being outdated with a few months of buying it.
*facepalm* Really? Then why do I have to keep repeating myself with the native and upscaling aspect of PS3's resolution?
You can easily make out the difference even on a measly 24 inch screen with full 1080p support by looking up close on it. Try it when you get the PS3 and you'll notice what I'm talking about.
BTW the analogy is flawed. If you run try to "upscale" a 720p based game, you won't be too happy with the result on a very large screen. I think you'll understand the concept once you get the console and play a multi-plat title like Modern Warfare 2 on both platforms and then tell me which is superior and crisp.
Likewise, but I resented the tone with which you started the argument and frankly it was getting a bit irritating. You need to experience it first hand before passing a judgement. I'm not trying to win a battle here, I'm only presenting the truth. But obviously you are just trying to put across what the PS3 is "capable" of doing and not what it has done. So at this point, I don't see on what basis you even have to push this argument further. I can speak of endless possibilities of what PC could do, but I don't want to make bigger claims that I would have to eat my words out later on, when the whole spec talk got wasted to nothing.
If you think that I'm against the PS3 or a blinded PC fanboy, then you couldn't be more wrong. I have experienced this first hand and letting you know from personal experience. If you still don't want to accept it, then it's you're call. I admire the PS3 for it's exclusive titles and had it not been for them, I wouldn't have even bothered buying the console. I can bet you every single title which is currently available for the PS3 can easily be made for PC as well. So it's not like the PS3 is some godly machine in which the exclusives made for it, can only work on it.
I'll wait, just like I have been doing for the past 4 years or so now. It's time for me to get the console, let's see what barrier it would cross.
Never been interested in that game. Can you tell me what was the point you were trying to put across?
I can edit an info in it right now and you won't even know what I changed unless you go through it completely and re-edit it.
... my brain is filled with very good information... and i'm still using 7800GTX, yea its the most amazing graphics card ever:glass-jumping:...
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.the greatest drawback of technology is also it's greatest plus point. 
