PC Buying Guide - July 2011

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aby geek

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top gear please a coparison between e7500 and i3 2100.


heres the new cards review
*www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-550-ti-review-msi-cyclone-ii-oc
 
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topgear

topgear

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^ Nice find ;-) and there's no doubt SB core i3 2100 is faster than previous gen wolfdale.

BTW, here's a update on gfx card prices :

PALIT GT430 1GB GDDR3 Graphic Card - 3625/-
PALIT GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 6650/-
PALIT GTS 450 SONIC Edition 1GB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 7700/-
PALIT GTX 460 SMART Edition 1GB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 10000/-
PALIT GTX 460 SONIC Edition 1GB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 10900/-
PALIT GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 28000/-
PALIT GTX 570 SONIC Platinum Edition 1280MB GDDR5 Graphic Card - 22000/-
PALIT GTX 560 Ti 1GB SONIC Edition GDDR5 Graphic Card - 15750/-
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozer II/OC is available now at 14.8k at smc international. Check HERE.

Really a sweeeeet deal.
 
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blackbird

Journeyman
Lamigton guys are very very irritating.
I am not a pro but i have a opinion and pov of mine.
PURCHASED
Asus M4A78LT-M LE - 2800
AMD Athlon II X2 255 - 3100 (he was giving me this at 2950 but without vat stupid as i see)
Inquired above config in many shops and the range was
5700 - 5900 (i think 5700 was for non vat)

Logitech MK200 MM Keyb+optical mouse - 620

Now the above was ranging 610 - 650
Creative A35 2.0 - 390
Oh this item was actually was my fighting issue... because 390 - 450 (everywhere it is 390 and some one is giving me at 450

there are few problems through because of which i didn't purchase further...
I actually got qutation for 8-10 shops (yes time consuming..) for all items.


DIDN'T PURCHASED YET (but rates are confirmed)
Hard disk - 1700 (cheapest quote i got 1625 ) Segate .12 500gb
Ram (corsair 2gb ddr3 1333mhz) - 1200 and also some where (cheapest quote i got 990..)
Bijli oh that best myth on forums that 1100 you will get Bijli without smps. And believe me last time i tried it failed (dec 2010) now i tried it failed....
Actually
Bijli without smps - 1300 (it is also having a lot of availability issues. even on itwares shop which is elouge he was giving me cm-310) cheapest quote i got 1250.
Now even if u want a good (standard and stupid smps) than xtech 550w- Rs.450 - 550

sony 24x box pack (not oem) - 940 somewhere 1k remember to see the link
Sony Launches 24X DVD Writer in India
Lg 24x was 800.
Avoid OEM OF SONY it is old stock now. i would say avoid 22x range.


Logitech MK100 normal Keyb+ mouse - 540 - 550
CM Elite 310 - 1550 (just got it from itwares shop) it must be 1500
FSP SAGA II 350w - 1800 - 1850 (most of the shops) i was like o_O
FSP SAGA II 400w - 1900-2100 (including itwares) i was like o_O

Few extra quotes
china MP3 clip (memory card) - 200 (ipod shuffle replica)
china MP3 clip which display song title (little long) (memory card) - 450 (u can get at 375)
Senhiser PMX60 - 450 (head phone)
Soundmagic pl 30 - 900-950 (ear plug)

P.S : The guy at ITWARES was nice but most of the items where unavailable with him.

Guys i have to buy the remaining things can u guys tell me or refer me a good lamigton dealer/retailer who will give good quote no need for a lot of bargain. Also who is genuine in billing matters at least.
 
Cilus

Cilus

laborare est orare
Sub 70K PhysX Config

Processor|Intel Core i5 2500K | 11K
Motherboard| Intel DP67BG | 8.5K
Ram| G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL | 2.5K
Main Graphics Card| Sapphire HD6950 1 GB | 14.5K
PhysX Card| MSI Geforce N250GTS 512 MB| 5.85K
HDD| Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 | 2.7K
Optical Drive| LG 22X SATA DVD | 0.9K
PSU| Tagan StoneRock TG600-U3 80+| 4.15K
Case| CM Elite 430| 2.5K
Monitor| Dell ST2220L Full HD| 8.7K
Mouse & Keyboard| Razer Cyclosa Gaming Bundle| 2K
UPS| Numeric 1KVA| 4K
Speakers| Altec Lancing VS2621| 1.6K
| Total |68.9K.

Now I need suggestion for a better speaker set. Here I have chosen the TAGAN StoneRock 600W PSU instead of the Seasonic 530D as adding a new Graphics card will increase the power requirement. Tagan TG600 is 80+ certified, can deliver upto 700W in stressed conditions and can supply a huge 528W to the 12V rail.
For PhysX card, did not chose GTS 450 for two things, price and there is no need to have very powerful card for PhysX. GTS250 will do fine for PhysX processing and I don't thing 450 will provide reasonable performance upgrade in terms of PhysX processing. Now guys, please let me know your suggestions and opinions over this.

Working on the high end segments.
 
topgear

topgear

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Cilus said:
Sub 70K PhysX Config

Processor|Intel Core i5 2500K | 11K
Motherboard| Intel DP67BG | 8.5K
Ram| G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL | 2.5K
Main Graphics Card| Sapphire HD6950 1 GB | 14.5K
PhysX Card| MSI Geforce N250GTS 512 MB| 5.85K
HDD| Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 | 2.7K
Optical Drive| LG 22X SATA DVD | 0.9K
PSU| Tagan StoneRock TG600-U3 80+| 4.15K
Case| CM Elite 430| 2.5K
Monitor| Dell ST2220L Full HD| 8.7K
Mouse & Keyboard| Razer Cyclosa Gaming Bundle| 2K
UPS| Numeric 1KVA| 4K
Speakers| Altec Lancing VS2621| 1.6K
| Total |68.9K.

Now I need suggestion for a better speaker set. Here I have chosen the TAGAN StoneRock 600W PSU instead of the Seasonic 530D as adding a new Graphics card will increase the power requirement. Tagan TG600 is 80+ certified, can deliver upto 700W in stressed conditions and can supply a huge 528W to the 12V rail.

For PhysX card, did not chose GTS 450 for two things,
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price and there is no need to have very powerful card for PhysX.
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GTS250 will do fine for PhysX processing and I don't thing 450 will provide reasonable performance upgrade in terms of PhysX processing.
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performance wise ( FPS counts ) GTS450 performs a little bit less compared with GTS250 but I did not understand what you mean by very powerful and then again saying that you don't thing it's offer reasonable performance upgrade.

GTS450 will offer more tessellation and physx power than GTS 250 and GTS450 comes with DX11 support and it's power consumption and heat generation is also very little ( compared to GTS250 which is a obsolete product now anyway )

moreover GTS 250 has 128 while the GTS 450 has 192 CUDA cores- so my recommendation strongly goes for GTS450 and the best part is Palit GTS450 is available @ 6.6K only.


Darkest of Days ( High physx )

GeForce GTS 450
42.46

GeForce GTS 250
29.60

*www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/GeForce-GTS-450-Video-Card-Review/1095
 
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Cilus

Cilus

laborare est orare
Topgear, what I was trying to say is that GTS450 as a main card offers better performance, Tessellation and better feature set compared to GTS 250 but when they are used as PhysX card along with a dedicated main card, the performance difference for just PhysX calculation is not that big and does not justify the 1K price difference as GTS 250 is also available @ 5.6K.
But as you pointed out, lower power consumption, lower noise level and less heating actually go for GTS 450.
So we can upgrade our config with it.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

Jaskanwar Singh

Aspiring Novelist
Cilus said:
Sub 70K PhysX Config

Processor|Intel Core i5 2500K | 11K
Motherboard| Intel DP67BG | 8.5K
Ram| G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL | 2.5K
Main Graphics Card| Sapphire HD6950 1 GB | 14.5K
PhysX Card| MSI Geforce N250GTS 512 MB| 5.85K
HDD| Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 | 2.7K
Optical Drive| LG 22X SATA DVD | 0.9K
PSU| Tagan StoneRock TG600-U3 80+| 4.15K
Case| CM Elite 430| 2.5K
Monitor| Dell ST2220L Full HD| 8.7K
Mouse & Keyboard| Razer Cyclosa Gaming Bundle| 2K
UPS| Numeric 1KVA| 4K
Speakers| Altec Lancing VS2621| 1.6K
| Total |68.9K.

Now I need suggestion for a better speaker set. Here I have chosen the TAGAN StoneRock 600W PSU instead of the Seasonic 530D as adding a new Graphics card will increase the power requirement. Tagan TG600 is 80+ certified, can deliver upto 700W in stressed conditions and can supply a huge 528W to the 12V rail.
For PhysX card, did not chose GTS 450 for two things, price and there is no need to have very powerful card for PhysX. GTS250 will do fine for PhysX processing and I don't thing 450 will provide reasonable performance upgrade in terms of PhysX processing. Now guys, please let me know your suggestions and opinions over this.

Working on the high end segments.
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cilus perfect. but better put up a seasonic S12II 620 for 5k.
example see Seasonic S12 II Bronze 520W Review

and yes a gts450 will do better. its 6.5k. little above budget doesnt matter.
 
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vikrammomaya

Right off the assembly line
NZXT Phantom is a good case for around 8.4K.. It looks better than the HAF series.. and there is not much difference in performance. can be used for the 100k + configs.

NZXT Phantom review
 
lordirecto

lordirecto

In the zone
vikrammomaya said:
NZXT Phantom is a good case for around 8.4K.. It looks better than the HAF series.. and there is not much difference in performance. can be used for the 100k + configs.

NZXT Phantom review
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NZXT Phantom a good case, that is not debatable. But it has some serious limitations. These limitations come into play when you decide to use Corsair liquid cooling. It does not let you mount the cpu cooler at the rear and use the side panel fan and also the top exhaust fan.
If you want to use both the top exhaust and side panel fan, then you have to mod the case a bit so that you will be able to convert the 200mm top fan holder to be able to hold your 120mm water cooler.
Though I am not sure, very tall air based cooler might get in the way of the side panel fan. So be careful when you decide on this case.
So this case is good to use as long as you stick to air based cooler. FYI, looks are not everything, especially functionality.

QUERY: I just read in Jas's post. Is MSI Geforce N250GTS 512 MB the best PhysX card available? Adding another PhysX card with 560 Ti will be useful?
 
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