PC Buying Guide 2011- Q4

Cilus · Nov 14, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
At 120k you are seriously limiting performance at the highest settings.

Many games also dont do well with 3D. You are shelling out a lot of money to play only a few games well.

How many times now I have to mention you that it is a personal choice?? It entirely depends upon the Buyer's decision if he wants 3D or not? We can't force him.

We do have normal 120K configs too and buyer can easily select that one if he does not want 3D. Even if he goes for 3D and does't like it, he can easily play in 2D view in 3D display, isn't he and GTX 560 Ti 2 GB in SLi is enough powerful to offer playability in the highest settings.

Extreme Gamer, leave the matter here for now. If any person creates a thread about 3D setting, lecture him as much as you want for not to go for 3D. But not here anymore. We'll have a separate setting for 3D; that's all.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 14, 2011

Since when did stating the obvious become personal choice? Nowhere in the post did I say "dont go 3D" or "3D is bad."
I only stated that 3D should be an add-on and not a part of a budget.

d6bmg · Nov 14, 2011

krishnandu.sarkar said:
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But for a stop gap solution, it would be more than descent.

smltngs · Nov 15, 2011

@cilus
thanx for the reply.
i am thinking of buying gtx 560 non-ti.
can u give me price range of the card.

vickybat · Nov 15, 2011

^^ Please create your own thread mate. This one is a buying guide thread and not meant for suggestions.

Cilus · Nov 15, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
At 120k you are seriously limiting performance at the highest settings.

Many games also dont do well with 3D. You are shelling out a lot of money to play only a few games well.

Extreme Gamer, that was your previous post which I was refering. Now tell me where did you say "3D should be an add-on and not a part of a budget." Rather than you are stating that 3D is bad, 3D is not justified, 3D does not sclae well, there are few games for 3D.
And what is "Sating the obvious" part...explain. Here we have configs for every type and every budget and 3D config is just one part of it. Why should we exclude it from the budget....because you don't like it.

Now, don't again say you were trying to convey something else by those words like you always do.

In my previous post I've clearly mentioned that we will be having all kinda config here and you can guide the person in his thread if he wants 3D, but not here. In any of the posts did I say that the points put by you are wrong? They are valid points. But this is not a place to discuss all those things in detail.

d3p · Nov 15, 2011

Ok, so finally we are here in some sort of conclusion.

List of changes :
*Added Zotac 560ti 2GB's in SLI.
*Added Sound Card.

Nvidia 3D Vision with Single Monitor [OC-able].

Probably add two more Asus VG236H = 36600 for 3D Surround Stereoscopic Display.

Add GTX580 3GB's in SLI instead of 560ti SLI, if budget permits.
Now please someone suggest a Decent H67 Board for Non OC Config.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 15, 2011

Probably add two more Asus VG236H = 36600 for 3D Surround Stereoscopic Display.

bad idea with 2 560 Tis. Suggest 580 3GB SLI for surround 3D.

Also, you want a decent mobo for OCing. Something in the 12k range. That mobo you suggested should actually be in a non-OC setup.

My general experience with mobos in the 6-10k range is that they have limited OCability and cannot tolerate voltage changes.

vickybat · Nov 15, 2011

@ d3p5kor

One can overclock with p67 boards mate. I guess you meant h67 right?

d3p · Nov 15, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
bad idea with 2 560 Tis. Suggest 580 3GB SLI for surround 3D.

As told earlier, this thread has a limitation of not going beyond 120k. The suggestion coming for you is meant for Completely Enthusiast End
& completely futureproof.

But n number times it mentioned that, this is just a buying guide, we are not fulfilling anyone's wish/requirement. Its completely in general, what a 3D rig should consist of.

Do I sound clear to you ??? or Read what Cilus Mentioned in the previous posts.

Extreme Gamer said:
Also, you want a decent mobo for OCing. Something in the 12k range. That mobo you suggested should actually be in a non-OC setup.

My general experience with mobos in the 6-10k range is that they have limited OCability and cannot tolerate voltage changes.

Suggest me, which will suit better in your opinion as well as well within budget limitations ??

vickybat said:
@ d3p5kor

One can overclock with p67 boards mate. I guess you meant h67 right?

oh my bad...corrected now...

Extreme Gamer · Nov 15, 2011

d3p5kor said:
As told earlier, this thread has a limitation of not going beyond 120k. The suggestion coming for you is meant for Completely Enthusiast End
& completely futureproof.

But n number times it mentioned that, this is just a buying guide, we are not fulfilling anyone's wish/requirement. Its completely in general, what a 3D rig should consist of.

Do I sound clear to you ??? or Read what Cilus Mentioned in the previous posts.

If you can suggest two more monitors and exceed the budget you cant recommend 580s?

You said two more monitors for surround. so i suggested including that as an optional upgrade.

Suggest me, which will suit better in your opinion as well as well within budget limitations ??

The Non-m Z68 VPro asus model for the OC config. Goes to 124k but i dont think it can be helped without cost cutting measures elsewhere.

Replies in bold.

d3p · Nov 15, 2011

^ Ok, boss will do it.

BTW how's Gigabyte Z68 UD5 or UD7 ??? Any better ??

vickybat · Nov 15, 2011

^^Afaik,h67 boards don't support sli. I think the single 5803gb is perfect here. What say?

Extreme Gamer · Nov 15, 2011

d3p5kor said:
^ Ok, boss will do it.

BTW how's Gigabyte Z68 UD5 or UD7 ??? Any better ??

I have been hearing bad things about the current UD lineup from some of my contacts. There are higher voltage fluctuations and bad loadline caliberations for one, and for another the boards run hotter than their direct asus counterparts.

d3p · Nov 15, 2011

vickybat said:
^^Afaik,h67 boards don't support sli. I think the single 5803gb is perfect here. What say?

for non oc Config, a single 580 3GB with 2400 will rock & roll..

Cilus · Nov 15, 2011

D35Kor, since we are providing motherboards over 12K budget, I guess MSI Z68A-GD80 can be a worthy option here. Check HERE. The i7 2600K was overclocked to 5.3 GHz with 1.55V Vcore voltage.

Tenida has this board I think we can ask him about the performance of the board.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 15, 2011

I agree with the GD80. How much does the big bang marshall cost?

For single GPU Maximus IV Gene can be considered. At its price it has a plethora of features not offered by other manufacturers.

d3p, since no H67 mobo offers SLI, just place a P67 mobo and dont include OCing addons.

I know its XL-ATX but still.

Skud · Nov 15, 2011

I don't know if these problems plagued every Z68 mobos out there, but here's something from Xbit Labs of the MSI Z68A-GD80 board:-

Just as before, a single graphics accelerator will work at full PCI Express 3.0 x16 speed, and if both slots are occupied it will be cut down in half. As for the third slot, you can install a graphics card there, too, but it will work as PCI Express 2.0 and its maximum speed will never exceed x4. Moreover, these four lanes are provided not by the CPU, but by the system core logic set. In normal mode they are used for different additional controllers, so if you have a graphics card installed into the third slot, then you will have to sacrifice one eSATA and one SATA port, both internal USB 3.0 ports, IEEE1394 (FireWire) support and two PCI slots.

Link:- MSI Z68A-GD80 (G3) One of the First Mainboards with PCI Express 3.0 Support. Page 2 - X-bit labs

Extreme Gamer · Nov 15, 2011

That doesnt make the mobo undesirable. Upto two GPUs is what this thread aims at.

Why would anyone wanna block his IO headers and onboard buttons anyway?

Skud · Nov 15, 2011

What about having a CFX setup and a third card for PhysX? I know its not the aim of this thread, but was curious if this is a common syndrome of Z68 chipset.

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