Nokia still a trusted brand in India.

[DOST_FRIEND59]

I Just updated my 5800 to V60 OFW last night, its a wonder that this 4 yr old device can still get a speedbump and running awesome, I'm getting a L9 but I am taking my 5800 to the crematorium with me

I had updated my Nokia 5800 to v60 firmware quite a bit long time ago and i don't think there's any new firmware released for the device recently.

 

[mastervk]

The fact that nearly everyone here is nostalgic about how tough their Nokia phone was/is tells the story about Nokia..

Nobody who buy a Ferrari or Mercedes compare it with tank ..Apple wanted to create mobile which people will love and care and which will be cool.Thats why they built iphone..and their success proves what market want and desire ..not something which you can drop and which will survive but something which you will consider precious and will not want to drop...

BTW from some youtube video i have seen iPhone is pretty tough...

 

[tkin]

I had updated my Nokia 5800 to v60 firmware quite a bit long time ago and i don't think there's any new firmware released for the device recently.

Well it was never officially released for my Nokia 5800(via OTA or PC Suite, red, RM356, no tv out), so bought an USB cable, used Navifarm and JAF.

The fact that nearly everyone here is nostalgic about how tough their Nokia phone was/is tells the story about Nokia..

Nobody who buy a Ferrari or Mercedes compare it with tank ..Apple wanted to create mobile which people will love and care and which will be cool.Thats why they built iphone..and their success proves what market want and desire ..not something which you can drop and which will survive but something which you will consider precious and will not want to drop...

BTW from some youtube video i have seen iPhone is pretty tough...

Yes, the market always chooses the right thing, so can we safely conclude Justin Biebar, Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus are the best singers in the history of mankind

 

[mastervk]

Yes, the market always chooses the right thing, so can we safely conclude Justin Biebar, Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus are the best singers in the history of mankind

at least they are earning money and that is what matters..and more important for a company...also whether its Nokia or BlackBerry or MS none of their latest mobiles are standout products (like iPhone was) ... people are not going to switch from android/iphone because a new product is gud enough...

In your analogy you are assuming that android/iPhone are like popular music but not best music..but in mobile market android/iPhone is arguably both best and popular..

 

[tkin]

at least they are earning money and that is what matters..and more important for a company...also whether its Nokia or BlackBerry or MS none of their latest mobiles are standout products (like iPhone was) ... people are not going to switch from android/iphone because a new product is gud enough...

In your analogy you are assuming that android/iPhone are like popular music but not best music..but in mobile market android/iPhone is arguably both best and popular..

If making money is the only thing that defines a company then I guess there's no point arguing now, but Nokia phones were not just sturdy but also reliable as well, I have a few friends using 5800 and not single one of them had shown any issues for over 3 yrs, what's surprising is that even the battery is still working great, no need for any replacement till now.

And by your logic movies like Transformers should win oscar, cause they made money, and that alone defines the quality of a product

 

[pranav0091]

In your analogy you are assuming that android/iPhone are like popular music but not best music..but in mobile market android/iPhone is arguably both best and popular..

Android+IOS account for something like 90% (?) of the market. Obviously they are popular. And then, you cant have two "best" products.
Both have advantages and disadvantages and neither is "the best".

The point is that none can still match the ruggedness of typical Nokia phones even now, and hence in India atleast they are well trusted.

 

[mastervk]

And by your logic movies like Transformers should win oscar, cause they made money, and that alone defines the quality of a product

where i have said only popularity define quality..it define survivability...if a company makes best movies but does not generate revenue it will be bankrupt soon...like LOTR (earn billion $ and win oscar both )

The point is that none can still match the ruggedness of typical Nokia phones even now, and hence in India atleast they are well trusted.

for all practical purpose Indian market does not matter much..What nokia need is to win US/developed world market...
If people have enough money in India they will all buy iphone and flagship android products..Nobody with enough money is going to buy nokia 1100 because it is tough and sturdy..(else they will buy high end nokia/BB phone which i am not sure are as tough as low end nokia mobiles)...

As India has very good low cost mobile market Nokia is popular in India ..that's why Nokia asha series is hit in India..But what they need for survival is hit high end product...

 

[Anorion]

^first of all, how can you say indian market does not matter when we so many people? lol

dont go by the stats, they are skewed towards smartphone OS, symbian is not considered one. Nokia is has the highest market share in India, followed by sammy and mmx. can't understand why android is assumed to be better than wp8. guess in a tech forum... dont think that the rest of the country is running behind an android or iOS device at all

the numbers are misleading. even though there are far more droids in the wild, it's the iOS users that actually put money where their mouth is, and spend on content, and that is where all the development is.

nokia was a hit in India long before this round of smartphones, and people are still buying nokia phones over these smartphones. They have a position that no other brands have, like a family doctor or a family jeweller. it is impossible to shake them from this position... hence... most trusted brand

also, at a time when everyone, including Indian companies are manufacturing from China, Nokia set up a manufacturing unit near Chennai... half of these phones are exported outside india. Their presence in our markets is sealed

 

[pranav0091]

^first of all, how can you say indian market does not matter when we so many people? lol

dont go by the stats, they are skewed towards smartphone OS, symbian is not considered one. Nokia is has the highest market share in India, followed by sammy and mmx. can't understand why android is assumed to be better than wp8. guess in a tech forum... dont think that the rest of the country is running behind an android or iOS device at all

the numbers are misleading. even though there are far more droids in the wild, it's the iOS users that actually put money where their mouth is, and spend on content, and that is where all the development is.

nokia was a hit in India long before this round of smartphones, and people are still buying nokia phones over these smartphones. They have a position that no other brands have, like a family doctor or a family jeweller. it is impossible to shake them from this position... hence... most trusted brand

also, at a time when everyone, including Indian companies are manufacturing from China, Nokia set up a manufacturing unit near Chennai... half of these phones are exported outside india. Their presence in our markets is sealed

That needed to be said.

Not everybody needs an OS that'll let them control the water flow in their closet or has the largest number of apps to endow them bragging rights. To assume that one OS is better than the other as a general truth is a folly. If that were indeed the case, the market woulve no options except Android/IOS. The Asha series is selling decently, the Lumia is picking up sales and Nokia luckily hasnt forgotten how to build desirable and reliable hardware. On a more personal note, when I had to make a buying decision on a phone, price wasnt the factor. I had used a mid end android and tried out the IOS whenever and wherever I could. I still chose a Nokia. And its not only me. My lumia has recieved more visibility than all the S3's in my office combined. Now thats saying something, isnt it?

So to say

If people have enough money in India they will all buy iphone and flagship android products..

is not correct. There are different people with different needs and IOS/Android is not the default choice for a few them. I do hope sincerely that Nokia and HTC dont die out, I would hate to see a world with every phone looking like every other. And regarding a hit in the high end market, how about the L920? Its not flawless but definitely one of the most distinguishable phones in the market right now, irrespective of price.

 

[Theodre]

Seeing that the MeeGo still is running with the help of the users (even though dragged), i was angry at NOKIA!! If they were to continue supporting that awesome OS it would have been a bit established like the Windows OS is now and they would have been atleast fighting for the 3rd position!! And maybe who knows, it would have been the first place seeing that Android is not always stayed as an OSS!! I wish MeeGo was here!!! N9 users are still using it and they are also rolling out updates!! (when i read about them last time)!! But still as all of they, i too grew up with NOKIA, still hate to give away the 1600

 

[tkin]

That needed to be said.

Not everybody needs an OS that'll let them control the water flow in their closet or has the largest number of apps to endow them bragging rights. To assume that one OS is better than the other as a general truth is a folly. If that were indeed the case, the market woulve no options except Android/IOS. The Asha series is selling decently, the Lumia is picking up sales and Nokia luckily hasnt forgotten how to build desirable and reliable hardware. On a more personal note, when I had to make a buying decision on a phone, price wasnt the factor. I had used a mid end android and tried out the IOS whenever and wherever I could. I still chose a Nokia. And its not only me. My lumia has recieved more visibility than all the S3's in my office combined. Now thats saying something, isnt it?

So to say


is not correct. There are different people with different needs and IOS/Android is not the default choice for a few them. I do hope sincerely that Nokia and HTC dont die out, I would hate to see a world with every phone looking like every other. And regarding a hit in the high end market, how about the L920? Its not flawless but definitely one of the most distinguishable phones in the market right now, irrespective of price.

Lumia 920 is one of the sexiest phone to date, where a SGS III draws attention due to its screensize and when the owner tells its name but in a crowd every eye darts toward a nokia Lumia 820/920, like this, SGS III is BMW 5 series, and Nokia is a Jaguar, both cost same but the Jaguar will turn heads, not the BMW, they had become so common even autowallahs go like meh..

Seeing that the MeeGo still is running with the help of the users (even though dragged), i was angry at NOKIA!! If they were to continue supporting that awesome OS it would have been a bit established like the Windows OS is now and they would have been atleast fighting for the 3rd position!! And maybe who knows, it would have been the first place seeing that Android is not always stayed as an OSS!! I wish MeeGo was here!!! N9 users are still using it and they are also rolling out updates!! (when i read about them last time)!! But still as all of they, i too grew up with NOKIA, still hate to give away the 1600

I just replaced the fascia of my Nokia 5800 and got a new scratch guard, good as new, and I showed this to a guy in a local cell shop, said he would give me 5k for it

^first of all, how can you say indian market does not matter when we so many people? lol

dont go by the stats, they are skewed towards smartphone OS, symbian is not considered one. Nokia is has the highest market share in India, followed by sammy and mmx. can't understand why android is assumed to be better than wp8. guess in a tech forum... dont think that the rest of the country is running behind an android or iOS device at all

the numbers are misleading. even though there are far more droids in the wild, it's the iOS users that actually put money where their mouth is, and spend on content, and that is where all the development is.

nokia was a hit in India long before this round of smartphones, and people are still buying nokia phones over these smartphones. They have a position that no other brands have, like a family doctor or a family jeweller. it is impossible to shake them from this position... hence... most trusted brand

also, at a time when everyone, including Indian companies are manufacturing from China, Nokia set up a manufacturing unit near Chennai... half of these phones are exported outside india. Their presence in our markets is sealed

This is it, /thread.

 

[Sam22]

I have a Nokia phone which I bought three years ago and till date i haven't spend a single penny on the maintenance of the phone. The Battery still rocks and I just have to recharge it once in every 3 days while As far as my Samsung is concerned, i need to recharge every day and also i don't find it trustworthy.

 

[dashing.sujay]

I'm using a 1110 since 5 years , and I was in such a love with it, that I rejected twice the proposal of my dad to buy me a new phone, if I surrender my love. I never cared that I'd lag behind other people in this smart-phone era; it was just the satisfaction and reliability factor.

Lately, my 1110 started giving problems (stopped charging) due to an idiot , I just decided not to use the phone, just to stay with me for as long as it can, not to say, priceless memories being first priority.

Bottom line is, no company will ever replace the position of Nokia, period.

 

[Hrishi]

Lumia 920 is one of the sexiest phone to date, where a SGS III draws attention due to its screensize and when the owner tells its name but in a crowd every eye darts toward a nokia Lumia 820/920, like this, SGS III is BMW 5 series, and Nokia is a Jaguar, both cost same but the Jaguar will turn heads, not the BMW, they had become so common even autowallahs go like meh..

Well said Tkin. Even I hate the design of almost all Droids out there , specially the Samsung ones.
Nokia has always been innovative , no matter where they stand.

Honestly , If I had a SGS III or Note 2 , and someone asked me for Exchange with Nokia Lumia 920. I would be more than happy to do that.
Unfortunately I have neither of th'm.

 

[Tenida]

I'm using a 1110 since 5 years , and I was in such a love with it, that I rejected twice the proposal of my dad to buy me a new phone, if I surrender my love. I never cared that I'd lag behind other people in this smart-phone era; it was just the satisfaction and reliability factor.

Lately, my 1110 started giving problems (stopped charging) due to an idiot , I just decided not to use the phone, just to stay with me for as long as it can, not to say, priceless memories being first priority.

Bottom line is, no company will ever replace the position of Nokia, period.

Nokia 1110 was my first mobile phone. Great memories

 

[tkin]

I'm using a 1110 since 5 years , and I was in such a love with it, that I rejected twice the proposal of my dad to buy me a new phone, if I surrender my love. I never cared that I'd lag behind other people in this smart-phone era; it was just the satisfaction and reliability factor.

Lately, my 1110 started giving problems (stopped charging) due to an idiot , I just decided not to use the phone, just to stay with me for as long as it can, not to say, priceless memories being first priority.

Bottom line is, no company will ever replace the position of Nokia, period.

Well said Tkin. Even I hate the design of almost all Droids out there , specially the Samsung ones.
Nokia has always been innovative , no matter where they stand.

Honestly , If I had a SGS III or Note 2 , and someone asked me for Exchange with Nokia Lumia 920. I would be more than happy to do that.
Unfortunately I have neither of th'm.

Me neither, if I had cash to spare I'd buy a Lumia 920, 820 has some nitpicks and 620 has battery issues, honestly I think with Lumia's Win 8 and its business oriented features Blackberry is obsolete now, maybe Nokia can take blackberry's place now.

 

[RON28]

Lumia 920 is one of the sexiest phone to date

but i guess Nokia lumia 620 looks more sexier than Nokia lumia 920

 

[tkin]

but i guess Nokia lumia 620 looks more sexier than Nokia lumia 920

Depends, to me 620 looks a bit toyish, fun colors, fun shape, a fun set, just like how Nokia 5800 was, a cool set, I have the 5800 btw.

 

[pranav0091]

^
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, generally.

You might fnd the 620 better looking because of some reason, presumably the bright coloring, when some find the 920 beautiful for its rugged yet classy looks. My personal favorite is the black that looks like it means business. Classy and slightly understated.

 

[tkin]

^
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, generally.

You might fnd the 620 better looking because of some reason, presumably the bright coloring, when some find the 920 beautiful for its rugged yet classy looks. My personal favorite is the black that looks like it means business. Classy and slightly understated.

Spoken like a true nokia fan