'Nirbhaya' case convict interviewed in jail (in 2013)

gemini90

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And apparently the permission was given by minister of state RPN Singh (UPA) in 2013 who is husband of Sonia Singh (NDTV). And I won't be surprised if this documentary wins award under best documentary feature in oscars. You know, to really reinforce the stereotype of Indian males as a bunch of female hating uncivilized natives whose sole motive in life is to rape the fair skinned daughter of the civilized west.

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This technique of influencing the viewers is called "subliminal messages".This is also shown in famous TV series Columbo in the episode "Double exposure"

 
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Faun

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[MENTION=303807]gemini90[/MENTION]

Request you to avoid the sensational writing.
 

ashs1

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Some news channel report that the parents are fine with the documentary. Some are reporting that they object.. What is the truth???

And i feel the govt. Is partially responsible because by banning the documentary, they have caused much more publicity..
I saw the documentary about the sad incident.. Even after 2 years, it shocks me to the core after seeing the report..
The controversial statements by the defence lawyers in the video is gonna cause a lot of unrest..
 

gemini90

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[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION] which one of my post comprises of sensationalist writing?

And not to mention that this documentary and the reaction to it provides perfect cover to the rapists to claim mistrial since the case is still sub-judice.

[MENTION=173432]ashs1[/MENTION] What exactly did you expect from such *******s who committed that horrible crime? That they would be repentant? This is a serious question because a few of my friends are now of the view that a large section of the socirty holds such sick views. This is the kind of stereotyping that sponsors are craving for. Just assemble bunch of interview who share the same sick view then it will give an impression that everyone thinks that way.
 
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Faun

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[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION] which one of my post comprises of sensationalist writing?


Here is what amounts to sensationalism.

And I won't be surprised if this documentary wins award under best documentary feature in oscars. You know, to really reinforce the stereotype of Indian males as a bunch of female hating uncivilized natives whose sole motive in life is to rape the fair skinned daughter of the civilized west.


[MENTION=173432]ashs1[/MENTION] What exactly did you expect from such *******s who committed that horrible crime? That they would be repentant? This is a serious question because a few of my friends are now of the view that a large section of the socirty holds such sick views. This is the kind of stereotyping that sponsors are craving for. Just assemble bunch of interview who share the same sick view then it will give an impression that everyone thinks that way.
A good section of society indeed think the same way. Position and education doesn't matter. Seen a lot in corporate world too. And even so more prevalent in villages.

If you tell what the rapist said without informing that it was said by the rapist, you will see people agreeing without flinching. And then let them know that a rapist said that, see the hypocrisy then ? It sure needs to be done to open those eyes which are not blindly shut.

Did you watch the documentary ?
 

gemini90

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[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION] I would call that sensationalism if such things had not happened before. But this stereotyping has been going on for long. Ever read E.M. Forrestors 'A Passage to India'. I saw the movie version on HBO. Won 2 oscars. Go ahead and see what I am talking about on imdb. Then there is the Slumdog millionaire which won oscars. That too stereotyped India and the same year when we launched Chandrayaan.

As for your 2nd conviction about this being a cultural problem, Consider some basic logic...Indian rape statistics are FAR, FAR lower than the West. The West claims this is due to under-reporting of rapes in India i.e. rape culture in India.

Now - if what the West says is right, then shouldn't it be logical that the "cultural" rape problem among Indians would show up in statistics among Indians settled abroad ? India has the second largest number of overseas migrants in the world (25 Million) - so the data points are certainly not unsubstantial. Morover, we have data points from across castes. While the US sees a lot of inward migration from the highest castes, the UK / Canada / Australia see a lot of emigration from middle castes - and historically lower castes / Dalits were taken across as labourers to work by the British in their plantations in Malaysia, Mauritius, Fiji, South Africa....

In each of these places - if I am not wrong, Indians (esp Hindus / Sikhs) tend to far outperform not just Blacks but also local White populations in terms of low incidence of criminal convictions.
 

Faun

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[MENTION=20614]Faun[/MENTION] I would call that sensationalism if such things had not happened before. But this stereotyping has been going on for long. Ever read E.M. Forrestors 'A Passage to India'. I saw the movie version on HBO. Won 2 oscars. Go ahead and see what I am talking about on imdb. Then there is the Slumdog millionaire which won oscars. That too stereotyped India and the same year when we launched Chandrayaan.

As for your 2nd conviction about this being a cultural problem, Consider some basic logic...Indian rape statistics are FAR, FAR lower than the West. The West claims this is due to under-reporting of rapes in India i.e. rape culture in India.

Now - if what the West says is right, then shouldn't it be logical that the "cultural" rape problem among Indians would show up in statistics among Indians settled abroad ? India has the second largest number of overseas migrants in the world (25 Million) - so the data points are certainly not unsubstantial. Morover, we have data points from across castes. While the US sees a lot of inward migration from the highest castes, the UK / Canada / Australia see a lot of emigration from middle castes - and historically lower castes / Dalits were taken across as labourers to work by the British in their plantations in Malaysia, Mauritius, Fiji, South Africa....

In each of these places - if I am not wrong, Indians (esp Hindus / Sikhs) tend to far outperform not just Blacks but also local White populations in terms of low incidence of criminal convictions.

Dude, move out of India and interact with people. Not everyone judge you by the news headlines. Those who are biased in their views will ruminate over these news headlines and vomit all over you. Others will simply shrug off because they know better from their interactions. It's a different thing if that interaction was pleasant or not.

I have seen an affinity for cheap food among Indians. I heard someone from India settled abroad recommending a food joint to someone by saying that the food was "very cheap" there. The person replied - "Is it healthy ?". Obviously she wasn't looking for cheap food. It matters how you interact with people in person.

Don't harbor the resentment in you. Utilize your time in something useful. You don't want to look back and see all the time that you wasted on this.

If I go to another country. I won't risk doing anything illegal. A localite will be far more likely to commit a crime compared to me. That goes even if I get green card.
 

gemini90

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Again sermonizing. If life has anything to teach me, I will willingly internalize those lessons. But you don't need to get all philosophical.
 

Vyom

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Calm down bros... before it turns ugly.

Note: Everyone have a right to write their views, without derogatory terms.
 

Desmond

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Dude, don't compare the Bollywood tripe to Indian culture. They are not synonymous.

Also, Bollywood does objectify women.

Calling it pornography is an overstatement though.
 

gemini90

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I agree that bollywood objectify woman especially since 90's but the way she speaks about it, seems that she just wants to find or make up faults to beat india with. That as if bollywood is a microcosm of our society.
[MENTION=5007]DeSmOnD dAvId[/MENTION] And where the hell did i compare bollywood with indian society? She is the one who is using bollywood as a mirror to our society at large.
 
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Desmond

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I just downloaded the documentary. Can comment properly only once I finish watching it. But I think that this needs to be out there so that we people can see the reflection of the society that we live in.
 

Desmond

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I didn't say that YOU are comparing. I meant that in context that one should not compare Bollywood to Indian society.

However Bollywood is so popular here that both are seen as one and the same.
 

Flash

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Me too yet to watch the documentary.
Did the documentary anywhere has traces of how the "people of India" erupted and stood together on the delhi incident?
 

Desmond

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Me too yet to watch the documentary.
Did the documentary anywhere has traces of how the "people of India" erupted and stood together on the delhi incident?
Yes it does. There is footage in the beginning about it. Haven't seen full yet.
 
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