NEED A CONFIGURATION FOR GAMING PC UNDER Rs 70k

Should I go For AMD Phenom II x6 or Core i7 930 ??


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asingh

Aspiring Novelist
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"B" is what is pulled from the socket. So Output/Input = efficiency. So if a PSU is 80% efficient. It pulls 1000W from the socket, and gives 800W(max) to the system --- if it pulls. 800/1000 = 80%.

Did you read those three links. They explain more.

Table are the rating which the 80+ agency provides.
 

Piyush

Lanaya
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"B" is what is pulled from the socket. So Output/Input = efficiency. So if a PSU is 80% efficient. It pulls 1000W from the socket, and gives 800W(max) to the system --- if it pulls. 800/1000 = 80%.

Did you read those three links. They explain more.

Table are the rating which the 80+ agency provides.
that means a PSU with "X" rated wattage can provide "X+something" watts

is that risky?

and yea i read those article
*www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=548862 was the best
 
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DigitalDude

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^^^ PSUs have a normal output capacity and also they can go overboard by some amount (~100W) which is rated as maximum output capacity.


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asingh

Aspiring Novelist
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God help you, if you are taking it beyond what it is has been tested and certified to do. Walk the thin line on the razor's edge.
 

rajan1311

Padawan
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God help you, if you are taking it beyond what it is has been tested and certified to do. Walk the thin line on the razor's edge.

I think he means tolerance, how much more can it withstand before it goes kaput :p


anyways, I have not read the full thread, just a small question to make life hell lot easier for samar.

for gaming at 1920x1080, which is better ?

i7 930 paired with 5850 or

P2 1055t paired with a 5870.

I think its the latter, simply because at those resolutions most games are more GPU bound than CPU bound. Correct me If I am wrong in saying that.
 
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cyberdude.samar

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Thanx Rajan For Making My Life Smooth As Butter :p

Welcome tO ThinK dIgIt !

And I Am Going For p2 x6 1090t + i wanna Know IF HD5870 is Better Or GTX470

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intel got 1 advantage here over AMD. AMD's new turbo sucks. & sucks bad. rest everything good. even temperature is low. motherboard price is low. OC potential enough to give i7 a good run (even on stock HSF).

Wats Turbo ???
 

rajan1311

Padawan
@ mavihs

Can you justify that statement of yours with some proof ? As far i have read an o'ced i7 930 beats the heck out s similarly o'ced1090T X6.

Its actually 13.9k for both the proccies as checked in latest prices section of this forum.

We all know that Intel's i7s are far far far better clock to clock. But, its far easier to overclock a 1090T to 4.2GHz than the i7 930. Most guys take it up to 3.8Ghz odd, which is still pretty darn good.

Any gaming benchmark in which i7 930 beats the heck out of the 1090T ? Proof please. Have a look at this:
*www.erodov.com/forums/amd-phenom-ii-six-core-1090t-1095t-thuban-review/32514-page9.html
 
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cyberdude.samar

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Clearly The phenom2 x6 1090t is As Better As Core i7 But M Having A HD5870 wid AMD and HD5850 wid Intel Which Makes My AMD Rig Far Better Than The Intel oNe.

I Believe My 4GB RAM kit wid AMD and 6GB one wid Intel Do Not Make Much DIff To The Performance Of PC.
 

rajan1311

Padawan
Wats Turbo ???

Turbo is hardware based automatic overclocking of active cores on the new AMD Phenom 2 X6.


Basically, if the application does not use all six cores, say it uses only 3, it will shut the three inactive cores and increase the clock speeds of the 3 active cores , to 3.6GHz in case of 1090T.

in short - Its automatic Overclocking :p
 
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cyberdude.samar

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Bye Guyz .

Goin Off .

Gotta Study .

Will Be Back 2morrow.

Please PC Final Karwa Do Before 15th Else Dad's Is Gonna Reduce Budget To 45k :(

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~w0w~ @ AutoMatic Overclocking :)

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Do Not Forget My GPU Query People.

M Confused Between HD5850 , HD5870 and GTX470 .

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Also Temme How Is The GTX295 Please .
 

coderunknown

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And I Am Going For p2 x6 1090t + i wanna Know IF HD5870 is Better Or GTX470

Wats Turbo ???

HD5870 better than GTX470. all fermi's are so badly plagued by this heat issue, custom coolers do little to help it out. even with custom coolers, they remain above 80degree. and thats very very bad for any gamer.

tubro core overclocks 3 or less processors when single threaded apps are running. rest cores clocked down to 800Mhz. as its 1st gen turbo from AMD so inactive cores will not be shut down completely (as Intel's turbo boost do). but nothing to worry as X6 runs cooler than all X4 or i7s.

I Believe My 4GB RAM kit wid AMD and 6GB one wid Intel Do Not Make Much DIff To The Performance Of PC.

you won't be using 6Gb. with i7, opt for 3Gb (3X1Gb). with X6, 4Gb (2X2Gb).

Turbo is hardware based automatic overclocking of active cores on the new AMD Phenom 2 X6.


Basically, if the application does not use all six cores, say it uses only 3, it will shut the three inactive cores and increase the clock speeds of the 3 active cores , to 3.6GHz in case of 1090T.

in short - Its automatic Overclocking :p

yup. Automatic Overclocking a good term to use for this technique. anyway welcome to TDF :smile:

Bye Guyz .

Goin Off .

Gotta Study .

Will Be Back 2morrow.

Please PC Final Karwa Do Before 15th Else Dad's Is Gonna Reduce Budget To 45k :(

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~w0w~ @ AutoMatic Overclocking :)

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Do Not Forget My GPU Query People.

M Confused Between HD5850 , HD5870 and GTX470 .

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Also Temme How Is The GTX295 Please .

i feel everything is already finalized. just the search for motherboard left.

also don't look at GTX4 series until Nvidia offers some sort of insurance or Heat damage return policy on their cards. or finds a way reduce heat. 80degree+ no joke. it'll seriously & surely damage any card. "GTX470/480 Microwave edition". :-D

also buddy, X6 confirmed. now don't go back to i7s. also a HD5870 powering the PC, it'll not bring a huge difference in performance, if u using i7 or i5 or X4 or X6.

nowhere does this GTX295 came from? its DX10.1. forget it. its old. power hungry. noisy. and yes damn ugly.
 

Jripper

Pro/An---tagonist xD
BTW how exactly is efficiency of a PSU defined??
I mean differentiate between an 80+ 550W PSU and a 70+ 700W PSU. :|
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
BTW how exactly is efficiency of a PSU defined??
I mean differentiate between an 80+ 550W PSU and a 70+ 700W PSU. :|

as asigh mentioned in a previous post, a 700W but 70% efficient PSU will pull more power from the mains. moreover as the PSU is only 70% efficient, consider cheap materials to be used in the build. which (in)directly means, PSU will go kaput if load applied.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Asigh, one question to you.

I am using a Zebronics Platinum 700W PSU priced @ 3.1k now in Kolkata. It has 70% efficiency and can deliver 35A current to the single 12 V rail. You know my config I think, still using it with Phenom II 955 oced @ 3.6 GHz and HD 5770 1 GB (XFX). I need to know if that PSU is sufficient or not for my rig. Secondly very soon I am going for a HD 5850. So will it be sufficient that time also?
 
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cyberdude.samar

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Proccy: AMD Phenom II X6 1055t 2.8Ghz [Rs 10,500] - Down From 1090t [14,500] (Confused)

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 [Rs 9650] - Up From 890GXM-G65 [Rs 7,350] (Confused)

GPU: MSI HD5870 [Rs 22,300] (Fixed)- Up From HD5850 [Rs 15,800]

RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1333Mhz CL7 [Rs 7,550] - Up From Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1600Mhz CL9 [Rs 6,850] (Wid AMD - High Freq or Low Latency ??)

HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB [Rs 5,000] (Fixed)

Monitor: BenQ 24" G2420 Full HD LCD [Rs 11,300] (Fixed)

Cabby: CM690 II [Rs 5,400] - Up From CM 690 [Rs 4,400] (Confused)

PSU : CM GX650 [Rs 5,500] (Fixed)

ODD: LG 22x DVD-Writer [Rs 1,100] - Always The Same (Fixed)

Total -
Wat Say About My New Rig ??

P. S. - Someone Get Me A Good Mobo [ill use NEC chip for USB 3.0 + Sata 6Gbps Compatible Hona Chahiye(SATA III Port)]

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Suggest Some Replacements {really good ones only} as i wanna go for 1090t to make my PC future-Proof .

Please Help.

Thanks In Advance.

Cheers

Sa[M]aR.
 
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coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Proccy: AMD Phenom II X6 1055t 2.8Ghz [Rs 10,500] - Down From 1090t [14,500] (Confused)

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 [Rs 9650] - Up From 890GXM-G65 [Rs 7,350] (Confused)

GPU: MSI HD5870 [Rs 22,300] (Fixed)- Up From HD5850 [Rs 15,800]

RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1333Mhz CL7 [Rs 7,550] - Up From Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1600Mhz CL9 [Rs 6,850] (Wid AMD - High Freq or Low Latency ??)

HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB [Rs 5,000] (Fixed)

Monitor: BenQ 24" G2420 Full HD LCD [Rs 11,300] (Fixed)

Cabby: CM690 II [Rs 5,400] - Up From CM 690 [Rs 4,400] (Confused)

PSU : CM GX650 [Rs 5,500] (Fixed)

ODD: LG 22x DVD-Writer [Rs 1,100] - Always The Same (Fixed)

Total -
Wat Say About My New Rig ??

P. S. - Someone Get Me A Good Mobo [ill use NEC chip for USB 3.0 + Sata 6Gbps Compatible Hona Chahiye]

---------- Post added at 04:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:37 PM ----------

Suggest Some Replacements {really good ones only} as i wanna go for 1090t to make my PC future-Proof .

Please Help.

Thanks In Advance.

Cheers

Sa[M]aR.

Proccy: AMD Phenom II X6 1090t <--- get this without 2nd thought.

Mobo: any 790GX/770 based mobo + get Sata 6Gbps card (when u need Sata 6Gbps & USB 3.0, than only buy). gigabyte got a few.

GPU: MSI HD5870 ---> nice 1. but why MSI?

RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1333Mhz CL7 [Rs 7,550] - Up From Ripjaws 4GB kit (2x2GB) 1600Mhz CL9 [Rs 6,850] (Wid AMD - High Freq or Low Latency ??) <--- no idea.

HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB ---> fantastic choice.

Monitor: BenQ 24" G2420 Full HD LCD ---> good choice again.

Cabby: CM690 II <--- NZXT M59.

PSU : CM GX650 ---> nice only.

ODD: LG 22x DVD-Writer ---> most common thing.
 
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