NEED A CONFIGURATION FOR GAMING PC UNDER Rs 70k

Should I go For AMD Phenom II x6 or Core i7 930 ??


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cyberdude.samar

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Stop fighting guyz !

I'll be overclocking My ProccY..SO m Going For InteL.

No need Fighting For AMD phenoms :|

Or Lets Invite Agent 001 To our Discuccsion :)

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Hey Guyz Can I GO For Cooler Master GX 650W [@ 5.5k] PSU for My Config ???


Reply ASAP.
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Yes buddy go for it eyes closed as its 80 plus and comes with a 5 year warranty like corsair.

Good choice.
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
70K is the total budget and not even 7K on PSU ? and you are saying you are going to OC and you are planning for a sound card
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
@Sam.Shab

The op can buy the 930 and still can spend on the 5870 or gtx480 because the x6 1090t and i7 930 costs the same roughly around 13.5k.
So he doesn't need to settle in for a midrange card afterall.

intel procy 930 + decent mobo = 25k
amd procy 1090t + decent mobo = 22k

i7 930: ~14k.
X58 cheapest: 10.3k

X6 1090T: ~14k.
785G cheap but descent (biostar): 4.3k

the intel rig cost 6k more. for 6k, one can get a GTX470 if initially getting a HD5850. for OP's rig it mayn't be relevant but still mentioned.

Stop fighting guyz !

I'll be overclocking My ProccY..SO m Going For InteL.

No need Fighting For AMD phenoms :|

Or Lets Invite Agent 001 To our Discuccsion :)

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:03 PM ----------

Hey Guyz Can I GO For Cooler Master GX 650W [@ 5.5k] PSU for My Config ???


Reply ASAP.

CM GX650W nice choice, if unable find Corsair PSU.
 
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cyberdude.samar

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@sam


Thanx Dude.

That Really Helped.

M going For a GX650.

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Bro If I wanted To Overclock My CPU , will GX650 Sufficise even then ??

Max Efficiency oof a GX650 will roughly be 85 % . . . means it will prowide Max power Of 550W .

Will It be enough for overclocking ?
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Cooler Master Power Supply Calculator - Standard. 650 will suffice. 750 if adding a hungry graphics card.

As per his previous posts he has plans of going for HD 5850.

GX 750 to be on the safer side. All the Core i7 builds i have seen so far have 1000W PSU and i some cases Tx750W. nothing less.

Check this thread : *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110397&highlight=official+core
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
@ Sam.Shab

With a 785 chipset the phenom 2 x6 won't give the same results as it gives with a 890fx or gx chipset.The performance will fall back even more & No it isn't the same as a 980X + MSI X58 because its still using the same x58 chip whereas the AMD will be using an inferior chipset i.e 785.

All the tests done in the reviews are with a 890fx based board.
 
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cyberdude.samar

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Ohk. . . So For Now I final Cooler Master GX750W.

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And A biG nO to The AMD Config.

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Any1 knows a dealer From DELHI ???
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
@ Sam.Shab

With a 785 chipset the phenom 2 x6 won't give the same results as it gives with a 890fx or gx chipset.The performance will fall back even more & No it isn't the same as a 980X + MSI X58 because its still using the same x58 chip whereas the AMD will be using an inferior chipset i.e 785.

All the tests done in the reviews are with a 890fx based board.

any explanation on how there will be performance loss. 890GX or 890FX is a 785G chipset (transistor count may have increased slightly). simply integrate Sata 3.0 support. increase the Pci lanes so X16 + X16 crossfire possible. one thing that increase performance of 8 series AMD chipset is A-link (south bridge & north bridge link). its bandwidth been doubled so performance will increase. but not a big impact. so in day to day computing or gaming (not benchmark), a X6 on a 785G or 890FX. it'll feel almost same.

well the example i gave its wrong actually. its more like G31 vs P45. more lanes. more OC potential. but at stock speed, both are same thing, except cost.
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
The performance loss will be in the same way as its with the g41 vs p45.The chipset technology matters and definitely plays an important role.

Forget the pci lanes & also the north and southbridge communication.The Northbridge technology is what that matters and there's definitely more to it than simply uping of the transistor count.
Refer this link.

And Yes you won't find any performance difference in day to day computing if you compare the 1090t with,say the i5 750.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Three lines of advice:

1. Get a minimal 650W PSU. Go with good companies like Corsair/Tagan. Corsair units are solid. You can hook up a blow torch to it, it will run..!
2. Get a full tower cabinet something like the HAF 932. Easier to work with. Mid-tower cabinets are crap. Difficult cable management. Make sure the chassis has a back plate cut out.
3. You getting an OC'able board, get a HSF - OEM. So you can OC that CPU. Else that board/processor go to waste. Honestly.
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
Mavihs, Just wanna know what do you mean by it? Are the shitty cabbies going to burst or increase your CPU temperature to make it burst in flames.
they sure going to increase the temps, especially if your OCing! Also it doesn't have any airflow.
If you ask the forum members, lot of people using these cabinets without any trouble, and beleive me, some of them are also having very high configuration
its really hard to believe! :eek:
I know Cooler Master CM690 will be better than them, but did u check that if every thing is coming under 70k or not. When someone asked something within a budget, just check your suggestion is fulfilling this criteria or not.
Other wise I could have suggested Core i7 980, isn't it? it will be then the top performer.
when a person ask for a config & gives a good budget he expects a good config which doesn't heats up, should have a good airflow, the cable management should be easy, you should be able to install the H/W easily & should have good looks, which this cabinet doesn't have! you should have at least suggested a NZXT Gamma which is way better than the Elite.

also one shouldn't look at just the processor. one can't just go out & buy a i7 980X & think it'll encode his movie in 5min which takes 1hr on his old Athlon XP or P4. what about the cost of motherboard? the added cost of a graphics card. all these matters. also not everyone is a overclocker. also both i7 930 & X6 1090T falls in same region. winning or loosing doesn't matter much cause both proccies beat each other by a small margin, usually.
+1
i'll say, if OP got the money to spend, get i7. but he'll have to settle for a midrange card. with X6 he maybe able shoot for the HD5870 also. maybe.
even with the thuban he wouldn't have been able to go for the 5870 as some of the components suggested above aren't good e.g. Elite!
Also as Amar would be OCing, he would also need a After Market HSF, some more fans for the cabby & also if he wants to make his case look better then some lighting/CFLs!
No buddy i'm not getting generalized.I have never mentioned anything about i7 980x but was always reffering the i7 930.The 930 beats the x6 everywhere except video creation and x264 encoding.An overclocked 930 can easily trounce the x6 1090t in almost all apps and thats the truth as said by all reviewers.You can refer the above links.
when you taking the 930 as OCed then you have to take the 1090T also as OCed, even then the 1090T will beat the 930 in multi threaded tasks with more margin as the 1090T OCs better than the 930!
The op can buy the 930 and still can spend on the 5870 or gtx480 because the x6 1090t and i7 930 costs the same roughly around 13.5k.
So he doesn't need to settle in for a midrange card afterall.
where did you get the 13.5K price for the 1090T & 930?

Or Lets Invite Agent 001 To our Discuccsion :)
does he come to the Forum?

Hey Guyz Can I GO For Cooler Master GX 650W [@ 5.5k] PSU for My Config ???
sure though corsair would be little better!


70K is the total budget and not even 7K on PSU ? and you are saying you are going to OC and you are planning for a sound card
7K is way more than needed here also i think he is not going for a sound card!
i7 930: ~14k.
X58 cheapest: 10.3k

X6 1090T: ~14k.
785G cheap but descent (biostar): 4.3k
where did you get the 14K price for the 1090T & 930?

one can get a GTX470 if initially getting a HD5850.
470 & 480 isn't worth getting right now unless you have loads of money......wait for the 2nd gen fermi cards!

are there no drawbacks of a 4.3 k mobo with a 14k proccy???
if everything is running at stock & the person isn't going to be OCing or using the onboard GPU then no, there shouldn't be any performance loss or any drawback!

Bro If I wanted To Overclock My CPU , will GX650 Sufficise even then ??
Yes!

GX 750 to be on the safer side. All the Core i7 builds i have seen so far have 1000W PSU and i some cases Tx750W. nothing less.
those builds are used for testing & they use the most high end config for testing, other than that you don't necessary need a 750W SMPS, 650W should suffix for 930+5850!
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
@ mavihs

Can you justify that statement of yours with some proof ? As far i have read an o'ced i7 930 beats the heck out s similarly o'ced1090T X6.

Its actually 13.9k for both the proccies as checked in latest prices section of this forum.
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
any explanation on how there will be performance loss. 890GX or 890FX is a 785G chipset (transistor count may have increased slightly). simply integrate Sata 3.0 support. increase the Pci lanes so X16 + X16 crossfire possible. one thing that increase performance of 8 series AMD chipset is A-link (south bridge & north bridge link). its bandwidth been doubled so performance will increase. but not a big impact. so in day to day computing or gaming (not benchmark), a X6 on a 785G or 890FX. it'll feel almost same.
+1

The chipset technology matters and definitely plays an important role.
+1 but there is not much difference in the 700series and the 800series which will effect the day to day performance for a regular PC!

Three lines of advice:

1. Get a minimal 650W PSU. Go with good companies like Corsair/Tagan. Corsair units are solid. You can hook up a blow torch to it, it will run..!
2. Get a full tower cabinet something like the HAF 932. Easier to work with. Mid-tower cabinets are crap. Difficult cable management. Make sure the chassis has a back plate cut out.
3. You getting an OC'able board, get a HSF - OEM. So you can OC that CPU. Else that board/processor go to waste. Honestly.
+1

@ Sam.Shab

With a 785 chipset the phenom 2 x6 won't give the same results as it gives with a 890fx or gx chipset.The performance will fall back even more & No it isn't the same as a 980X + MSI X58 because its still using the same x58 chip whereas the AMD will be using an inferior chipset i.e 785.

All the tests done in the reviews are with a 890fx based board.
FX chipsets are meant for OCing & lots more settings can be tweaked vs the other chipsets......Reviewer use FX coz of that reasons!
& as i stated above there won't be any performance difference if the core settings are untouched & the proccy isn't OCed!

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@ mavihs
Can you justify that statement of yours with some proof ? As far i have read an o'ced i7 930 beats the heck out s similarly o'ced1090T X6.
i'm not saying a similarly OCed 1090T, i'm saying a more OCed 1090T! (AMD proccy have a better OCing capability!)

Its actually 13.9k for both the proccies as checked in latest prices section of this forum.
can you point me to the thread & where they got the prices from!
 
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