Microsoft Ceases AutoPatcher Project

[shantanu]

yeah they do.. and for MVPs.. its more quickly.. @din : why r u involving me here..
and M$ responds to customer mails.. try to post one yourself..

and M$ may or maynot start autopatcher again, but one thing is sure they consider the mails and the suggestions very deeply..

@everyone : i didnt open the thread for you guys to flame.. whether you think i ma baised or anything i dont care.. i wont stop my hands in banning anyone..

WGA was cracked within few hours of it's release and if M$ stopped autopatcher to curb piracy then they have made a big blunder once again and I am not surprised.

no it was not.. still WGA (vista) is yet to be broken.. even the cracks does not works for Xp in many cases.. so its not broken .. its still under process of.. and M$ is updating day by day.. so it will be a hard task to accomplish for the crackers...

 

[gxsaurav]

Blaming MS coz they stopped something which was very useful forI read somewhere (I think its Shantanu) MS send replies to emails within 6 hrs.

The only thing I got in my mail was the valid reason that Microsoft makes Windows & only Microsoft has the rights to make & distribute updates & packages.

 

[vish786]

yeah they do.. and for MVPs.. its more quickly.. @din : why r u involving me here..
and M$ responds to customer mails.. try to post one yourself..

a little late, but they definitely do respond, and give services time to time. i'm one among them.

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

@shantanu I don't know about Vista but it is sure as hell available for XP fairly easily.Do you want me to provide it to you?

 

[shantanu]

no i dont want it.. well i have my originals with me and i beleive in genuinity..

for xp i have seen many guys.. saying the XP is now cracked but it develops serious problems with them..

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

No shantanu it's just a .reg file(2.25kb).I downloaded it out of curiosity(to see how the hell it works) and it actually worked.I don't know much about WGA cracking just that autopatcher was so much better than online updates specially for people having no broadband access and people having multiple computers.

 

[gxsaurav]

^^^ I hope you know that u can download updates or Digit can distribute monthly updates for Vista in there DVD so that you can install them anywhere.

 

[din]

@shantanu

Sorry, I didn't mean that. I saw somewhere you wrote for MVPs , MS send quick reply. May be some other thread and GX told us he sent an email so MS with his suggestion etc. so I was asking him (as hes also an MVP) whether he received reply. Never flamed any.

The only thing I got in my mail was the valid reason that Microsoft makes Windows & only Microsoft has the rights to make & distribute updates & packages.

Confused. So how come you expect Digit to provide the updates ? ?

@shantanu again. I have seen many people either skipped wga / cracked it. Theres nothing complicated in that I think, it works pretty well. Above all MS itself mentioned WGA is NOT a solution against piracy, it is just a warning message and people can easily byepass it etc.

 

[shantanu]

autopatcher is not only medium for offline updates.. !

now if WGA is so weak then how come Vista is still un breaked.. ?

and please dont remind me of some cracks to WGA that cam with vista launch.. its already proved that they were fake..

 

[din]

No, I never meant Vista WGA, I do not know anything bout it. I mean XP WGA

And there are alternatives to Autopatcher - for sure

But nothing can replace Autopatchers's simplicity / ease of use / advantages

 

[shantanu]

advantages are well discussed in the thread... i just want to add that Autopatcher is ok.. but GX meant that offline updates can be given by any chip-digit mag. or you can simple download them from M$ website form a cyber and then install it in multiple pcs with some software(multiple installer for lan or so.. ) or individually..

sometime ago i used autopatcher and my XP got corrupted, i had a net breakdown that time.. after that never had autopatcher again..

 

[gxsaurav]

Confused. So how come you expect Digit to provide the updates ?

Oh! Sorry, my mistake. Digit can provide monthly update MSU or EXE files in there original unaltered form..

 

[din]

Hmm, used Autopatcher in many systems, know many of my friends / their offices use it. not sure what went wrong in your PC. Sorry to hear.

I am confused coz, no magazines ever provided the updates from MS. But all gave Autopatcher. And GX is saying only MS has right to distribute it, so how we can expect Digit to provide the 2.8 GB ISO ?

Oh! Sorry, my mistake. Digit can provide monthly update MSU or EXE files in there original unaltered form..

OH, ok, thank you for the clarification.

Hope Digit will carry it in that case.

 

[shantanu]

2.8 g iso ?

wth , who told them to download 2.8 gb.. monthly updates are too small.. maybe if you update regualarly.. it moght be 5 or 6 mb.. of updates.. sometimes 10-12 mb.. .. cant say which update is provide by M$ which is 2.8 gb (xp installation = 587 mb at max) and updates 2.8 gb ? vista = 2.4 gb 32 bit and 3.2 gb for 64.. and updates = 2.8 gb. ? can you elaborate ?

 

[din]

@shantanu

Ok, I assume you didn't go through the entire thread. It is already explained. Anyway link to 2.8 GB ISO here.

*support.microsoft.com/kb/913086

Yes, we can download the updates from MS at a regular manner. But Autopatcher gave everything in order in a smaller size and in CDs. So for a fresh install it was always easy like XP + SP2 + Autopatcher Core + Autopatcher Updates one by one. All offline.

Now, don't you think that was a very nice option ? Time saving, money saving, bandwidth saving and easy one ?

 

[shantanu]

that 2.8 gb iso is for corporate sector the person that uses multiple products might be for companies..
thats somewhat illogical.. ! well i wont say Autopatcher was not good.. but Its a matter of Will... M$ will says not to give Autopatcher , so they wont.. it might be giving a hampering blow to some products or helping piracy.. ?

now this time saving is also explained with lot detail earlier in the thread.. but again saying IMO : Best online updating..
and offlne updates : if not autopatcher.. then monthly updates via net.. and you can always have a copy of those updates for future.. well ending my discussion here.. have a nice clean thread is all that i hope..

 

[gxsaurav]

For those worried about big updates that they need to download every month, do this.

1) Start Windows Update, & update as u need.

2) Go to this folder

C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

Backup or zip everything in this folder. Now Go to some other computer & copy all the files to the same folder. Run Windows Update & select the updates u want to upgrade. If the updates are already there in Download folder then Windows Update will not redownload the updates & install offline.

However, every computer is different & it could be that the particular computer needs another update which must be downloaded. In that case either download the full package or download via Windows Update & backup the downloads folder.

 

[Garbage]

about WGA, I remember a thread posted by Prakash, in which Windows Verified LINUX as a genuine windows online !!!

Check this : Ubuntu Linux Validates As Genuine Windows

 

[sakumar79]

@gx - If the magazines distributed Windows Updates, they would have to be installed one after the other manually right? With Autopatcher, the list of modules would be displayed. Automatically, it would select the update modules that are not yet installed and select them for installation. Then, you can look at the modules individually, get a description info, and select/deselect them. Finally, give the command and all the selected modules will be installed automatically... The advantage is that you select the necessary modules first and let the installation go on one after the other without intermediate intervention from the user... IMHO, this is far easier to work with than Windows Updates, especially for sysadmins...

Arun

 

[gxsaurav]

@gx - If the magazines distributed Windows Updates, they would have to be installed one after the other manually right

Wrong, using Qchain & Comman line tools or a simple script u can install all of them automatically & u won't need to reboot after each update. When everything is updated just reboot once. Done.