Sykora said:
You really think International politics is as straightforward 2+3=5 don't you? Or all those other analogies you've given like Mathematicians and Teachers and Students and babies and all that. It's not. If that's the dream you're living in, wake up.
Huhuh ...you telling me that? Atleast 2+3=5 is as simple for ur repeated questions!
Sykora said:
Finally we come to the point which I've been trying to make. Instead of spending so much on defence and offence, the indian government should devote resources to educating these people, who have the capacity to make such mistakes such as cross the border into a hostile country.
Well Indian govt is trying to. If it had done that completely than India wud be on top of the world and that too technologically!
But why dont u say abt Pakistan? Why isnt it improving on spending on human development? Terrorism is its only industry! Wud u like to comment on this one?
Sykora said:
No. This time, I spoon fed you
So u agree that u needed "spoon feeding"....atlast!
Sykora said:
You told me about an article in the India Times, so I found the site, and asked you to find the article, because I couldn't. You still haven't found the article.
mediator said:
The news is 2-3 days old from Times of India. Indian civilians who accidently cross border and miltary men who r captured there....meet with 3rd degree torture. There eyes balls are taen away and punctured.....then their linbs r destroyed one by one and finally the man is shot dead!
Do u need the whole proof online? If the whole content of newspapers is based online...then who'll buy newspapers? That was real childish! I already told the time and the source of the stuff abt Indian harrasment in pakistan! Now u need that online?
Cmon man is ur whole world based online? Dont u goto colleges or schools? Or are u doing correspondence online? Online Online is that all u have to say? Give me this and that stuff online!! HILARIOUS!
Sykora said:
I am trying to present my arguments clearly, giving proper evidence
Again hilarious! So many contradicting points, repeated questions and unclassified thoughts u posted.....and at the end u say u presented them clearly! Wow!
Sykora said:
You asked before once how I would argue in a real debate. I would print my evidence and hand it over
Printed evidence? hahhhaaa......this was the most nice one! Better than SANTA BANTA jokes! Now I can clearly see how much u must have argued in a real debate!!
Nice one u made my mood! Thanx!
Sykora said:
You would not get anywhere if you said "Go read the newspapers, it's there everyday", or "The conclusion is obvious, all evidence is clear".
Ofcourse I WONT say them to read newspapers! Instead I wud bring the cuttings from those newspapers themselves and other reliable resources instead of "Printing Evidence"!!
Sykora said:
If you think it is clear, you must back up your claims with evidence. As you have not done so with hard facts, instead saying "It's sooo obvious" or "My GODDDDDD you don't read anything",
MY GODDD! Ofcourse I'll back my arguments....thats why I have given u the source of newspaper and time when it was published! Cant u find that in ur newspapers? Are u lazy? Or u just wanna find everything online on a mouse click?
Sykora said:
I cannot believe anything you say.
How can u? When u urslf dont know what u r saying! All ur statements are contradicting! In some u have classification problem like having trouble in differentiating between harrasment and security checking. U urself are so confused how will u understand other people?
Sykora said:
I think the reason you are posting the same thing over and over again is not because I am asking the same question more than twice, but because you have nothing more to say, no more evidence *to present here.*
U have reading problem! Thats has become a fact now! instead of "posting" u shud have written "replying" in the above post of urs!
No more evidence.....what do u want? Shud I scan the newspapers and post it here specially for u? That wud be a "total spoon feeding"! I gave u the source and telling u again n again to read it......and confirm me by telling whats written there.....so that I can know that u actually read it!
Sykora said:
I will admit that there is a lot of terrorist activity happening in Pakistan, and that there are many terrorists living in Pakistan. What I do not accept is that the Government of Pakistan is openly supporting the terrorist activity.
Does that mean u soften ur stand on Pakistan now? Well if paki govt isnt supporting terrorism then why doesnt it crushes LEt and jehadis wanted by US and India? Why ISI has support to these jaahil jehadis?
U gave me some old stuff .......so for u I give some old stuff. I think u'll like it!
*www.jammu-kashmir.com/archives/archives1999/99october19c.html
Read it carefully! Its from Govt of jammu n kashmir itself! Thoughout the post u'll find hand of ISI either initially to some organization or completely to some organizations. U like links so much....so read it now!!
Sykora said:
Did you see the CNN-IBN report which said that 1 of the 24 arrested in Britain was an Indian working for Jet Airways?
U got so happy that one was an Indian? What about the rest? Neways the one u called the Indian ws a muslim and I know he must have been brainwashed by these terrorists. Neways this was the first example where I saw one was Indian and I regret that poor guy for having been brain washed by those jaahil jehadis!
Anyways U say that ur Indian...and ur trying to prove such a thing? Neways Pakistan is doomed! Will be disintegrated within 10-20 yrs.....so dont worry about India not attacking pakistan!
I know ur a pakistani.....thats why u dont have such information. Coz freedom to speech is banned in Pakistan ,all the news media is controlled by authority,shows u what they tells them to show and u can get real news only from internet that too might be filtered! Whenever a military dictator comes in Pakistan....he's cheated by his successor.....who in turn is cheated by his successor. Pakistan is famous for such history! And only Pakis are the one who candare to use Indian forums....coz they dont get much info in their own forums. Like I said what Pakistan has to offer Except terrorism?
Neways u didnt quoted on this one? Here
Sykora said:
I got my statistics within seconds of typing "Who has the largest army in the world?" in google.
Sykora said:
I already did search. About 3 posts back. I found that you are wrong. Without searching for yourself, you're disputing my facts.
mediator said:
Here we go....now u have classification problem toooooo!! ANd did i say nething different about US army? I think i'm debating with child now!
US doesnt have largest army! Now do I have to "spoon feed" u with definition of largest army? and its difference with technologically advanced?
U debate with me quite endlessly....which I appreciate and after so long u say such dumb stuff and making me rewrite again n again.
So please tell who has the largest army now and tell who has second largest?
Sykora said:
I've admitten in many places that the Indian approach to certain issues was good or intuitive, but you must have missed them.
Never! I have quoted with "Agreed" if I found the post OK! read it again!
But dont quote with Agreed!
Sykora said:
I think we have diverted the topic however. This started out as a debate on which was better, India or US. It has turned into an India-Pakistan debate, one which, as you have forcefully pointed out and I have freely admitted, I don't have much experience in
Yeah thats correct! The forum members must be abusing both of us for that!
Sykora said:
I believe we were discussing military might. I told you once before that unless there is a huge leap in technology, the military might of different countries usually stay in the same order. Note I said "usually", because I don't know if there are exceptions. At the end of the Cold War, the US had the most advanced military in the world. I showed you statistics about 3 years old that it was still the case at that time. Did you read those figures? It is highly unlikely that the situation has changed drastically in the past 3 years. It has changed, for sure. But not to a very large extent.
Yeah at the end! but before that Soviets were ruling.....History books tells us that! 3 yrs are enough for major ugrades to take place! Around 1999 the Deal for about 120 sukhoi-30 MKi's and 300 T-90 battle tanks,admiral gorshkov was finalised and around 2002 they were about to be induced! Belive me statistics have changed! even LAC's are about to be induced+some indegenously built tanks and how to forget the deadly "Brahmos". The whole articles used to come once a weekend in "HINDu" and i used to Njoy it!
And now the world is gathering for the next Indian deal.....several countries like US,Russia,France,Germany etc lining up to showcase their best weapons,planes,tanks etc.
I pity paki's. As after extreme begging paki's are trying to get obsolete F-16's....while the americans are offering us F-18's and the hornets! And how can u forget the AWACS for which CHina was ignored and India approved!
I know the overall might of India will remain lesser than US untill these stupids politicians stop interfering! But u can see CHINA ad how fast it is building is military might at par with US. Even it has the economy to back it and is getting better and better and americans are fearing this.
Sykora said:
Next, to the topic of standard of living. The standard of living for the common man is much much higher in US than in India. Let me give you an example. Go to your kitchen and open the water tap. Would you drink the water? In most cases, no. I know that I can't, or more precisely, won't.
Not in most but some cases! But i tell u goto US and tell me if a litre of PEpsi is cheaper or a litre of water! U have to pay to get clean water, for a natural resource....while u can get it for free here and in plenty or at much cheaper rates. Thats why u'll see so much water is wasted in India.
Play Holi in US and tell me the tax amount u'll recieve.
Sykora said:
You can however, do this in the US. Literacy is at around 95% in US, with 98% of the population enrolling in primary school. For india, this figure is around 65%.
Yes, totally agreed! But again I say thats because of the stupid ppl in present govt. See how much literacy got improved in NDA govt itself. Anyways Its not far when India wil also experience the same as US!
Neways one member here said "In US u use paper and and India water". Do u like US for that? Thats so stinking. Infact I'll say whites are the most stinking ppl in the whole world who bath once in a week and use paper.
And western type toilets even are soo unhygeinic. I wont explain why!