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d3p

PowerHouse
You should check out the prices of Seasonic/CM V series units then. By what you're saying, technically even VS, TX, etc. should cost equally ridiculous.

Same reason as why certain Antec units equivalent to their Seasonic OEM models cost 1k more atleast- where they're shipped. Yes! It does matter.

What i have heard from few of my contacts from SP road so far is, Most of the low end & mid range PSU's i.e [below 650w] are good sellers in Market. Profit shares with those PSU's are pretty less. This is also applicable with GPU & Cabinets.

Whereas, High End Modular PSU's from CM, Corsair, Seasonic & Antec are not so huge sellers due to their high cost & fetch a good profit if sold at right time.

I don't know, if anyone would have encountered this.

Most of times you visit a Local Computer Store & inquire about few components. They won't reveal the exact price upfront. They might call someone & ask about the current prices of those components & then add the profit into it before answering you so.

The people whom these guys call are the distributors or retailers, who sets the prices according to the demand. Now if you visit multiple stores, just to know the right prices or cheap deals. You might not find a huge price drop between different stores, as the distributor for those components are ONE & those few hundred - thousands differences are nothing but the profit level.

Guys, please make sure that you're getting the retail box with the processor-motherboard combo. There has been a report from Taiwan that OEM processors are being sold with motherboards. Not sure if its happening here, but being more careful isn't harmful to anyone.

Care to explain the issues with OEM Processors ?? How are they different from normal ones ??
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
aaaah I see the moderators have deleted my previous comment about OEM processors, but d3p quoted it. What's up with that? I am a little bit dissapointed, considering that I've done this and many things before highlighting certain issues with warranty claims and RMA in this forum alone.

OEM processors are those which are sold via Intel's partners in pre-assembled systems- Dell, HP, etc. They're basically the same, except they are lower cost-than-retail packs and their warranty are only honoured as an entire unit by the respected pre-assembled system, whoever it is. Chances are that you'll be charged full retail price unknowingly. Haswell prices are insanely high but there is a possibility of such OEM processors being sold. OEMs are not able to push haswell as much as they expected, so there is a stock lying around. It happened before with previous processors but not too loud. Haswell series however is happening in certain countries at APAC.

There's an article in Digitimes but its paid content so only paid subscribers can view it. VR-Zone did some digging, but it only proved that its not happening in certain well known stores in Taiwan.

Dumping of OEM hardware in retail even in India is for real and usually packed by assemblers rather than retailers selling individual components. All this is done 'unofficially' through series of channel partners and sub distris. Its no different from WD Black FAEX with 3 years warranty on serial issue, when infact in reality is that its 5 years. Distris/ Sub-distris/channel partners are getting more ballsy in India- and dealers are not very comfortable giving a lot of information fearing that they will not get things to sell for ratting out people. It should be observed that importers stickers are now also removed from OEM drives to add more into the confusion. No sticker, more difficult to trace it to the distris. Companies would pass the buck, saying that its the distributor's responsibility or sales team or importer....yadda yadda yadda. Chances of processors failing is much lesser than hard drives failing, so catching this red handed is more difficult.

Only components that are strictly under control are SSDs and power supplies- well, atleast the tier 1 ones anyways.

So to prevent all this, its best to make sure you get the retail pack, bill has serial number, store has VAT/CST number mentioned on it.

And those 600w+ units are fetching decent enough sales, not as much as 400w- 500w units, but they are. There are lot of companies buying a lot of systems and usually they cost a lot. On top of it, they have systems with stacks of hard drives and low-to-mid powered psu that are sold in india doesn't cut it, so they end up buying a higher powered units. The numbers are segregated, but very much there. Even RAID SAS cards worth 60k are being sold nicely, even considering that they are 20k more than U.S. prices. Ofcourse, we're not talking only about enthusiasts/gamers, but sales numbers overall. I can't say much how much do people earn from such units, but the volume is very much present in India, or else why would we have Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, Coolermaster introducing newer 600w- 1200w units in India as soon as its available in APAC?
 
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d3p

PowerHouse
aaaah I see the moderators have deleted my previous comment about OEM processors, but d3p quoted it. What's up with that? I am a little bit dissapointed, considering that I've done this and many things before highlighting certain issues with warranty claims and RMA in this forum alone.

OEM processors are those which are sold via Intel's partners in pre-assembled systems- Dell, HP, etc. They're basically the same, except they are lower cost-than-retail packs and their warranty are only honoured as an entire unit by the respected pre-assembled system, whoever it is. Chances are that you'll be charged full retail price unknowingly. Haswell prices are insanely high but there is a possibility of such OEM processors being sold. OEMs are not able to push haswell as much as they expected, so there is a stock lying around. It happened before with previous processors but not too loud. Haswell series however is happening in certain countries at APAC.

There's an article in Digitimes but its paid content so only paid subscribers can view it. VR-Zone did some digging, but it only proved that its not happening in certain well known stores in Taiwan.

Dumping of OEM hardware in retail even in India is for real and usually packed by assemblers rather than retailers selling individual components. All this is done 'unofficially' through series of channel partners and sub distris. Its no different from WD Black FAEX with 3 years warranty on serial issue, when infact in reality is that its 5 years. Distris/ Sub-distris/channel partners are getting more ballsy in India- and dealers are not very comfortable giving a lot of information fearing that they will not get things to sell for ratting out people. It should be observed that importers stickers are now also removed from OEM drives to add more into the confusion. No sticker, more difficult to trace it to the distris. Companies would pass the buck, saying that its the distributor's responsibility or sales team or importer....yadda yadda yadda. Chances of processors failing is much lesser than hard drives failing, so catching this red handed is more difficult.

Only components that are strictly under control are SSDs and power supplies- well, atleast the tier 1 ones anyways.

So to prevent all this, its best to make sure you get the retail pack, bill has serial number, store has VAT/CST number mentioned on it.

And those 600w+ units are fetching decent enough sales, not as much as 400w- 500w units, but they are. There are lot of companies buying a lot of systems and usually they cost a lot. On top of it, they have systems with stacks of hard drives and low-to-mid powered psu that are sold in india doesn't cut it, so they end up buying a higher powered units. The numbers are segregated, but very much there. Even RAID SAS cards worth 60k are being sold nicely, even considering that they are 20k more than U.S. prices. Ofcourse, we're not talking only about enthusiasts/gamers, but sales numbers overall. I can't say much how much do people earn from such units, but the volume is very much present in India, or else why would we have Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, Coolermaster introducing newer 600w- 1200w units in India as soon as its available in APAC?

Quite a Information there. I would suggest you to make a separate thread as awareness in the same section.
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
B and H series Asus boards for Haswell:

H87-PRO – Rs.10150/-
H87-PLUS- Rs.9220/-
H87M-E – Rs.7960/-
H87I-PLUS – Rs.8950/-
B85-PLUS- Rs.7900/-
B85M-G- Rs.6600/-

Prices are MSRP from Asus India.
 
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binnybhai

Right off the assembly line
Hey I need to replace my 10 yr old desktop

Pls suggest configuration

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:

1. Photo editing in Lightroom and Photoshop
2. Music and movies(HD 720p and 1080p, a movie size is about 8 GB to connect to my TV from computer and play without gettin.)
3. Net surfing and gaming(NFS)


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 25 and extend to +5k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No idea what this means

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Any pirated Windows OS(Please recommend) windows 8.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: NO, Got HD ready plasma TV 720p.


7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Monitor


8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: a week time

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: my friend will do

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Coimbatore- will buy where ever it is cheaper.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:
Should support my 5.1 sound systems, Should be able to play HD movie . Wireless mouse and keyboard.
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
Maybe not the right place but, I would be reviewing this. No prize for guessing how many case designs from other brands were used in this!

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The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
is the review up on your website ? or any hint on what cabinet is this ? ;-)

aaah I got this mail 2 weeks ago but I told them to put it on standby. Now, atleast a part of my workload is slightly reduced, so I could afford time enough to do this review.

What cabinet is this? Well, FROM THE MAKERS....err...RE-LABELLERS OF BIJLI 2 :-D. But by the rough looks of it, looks like zebby boys have given bit more thought. I seriously hope this is good considering the MRP tag raises my eyebrows at the very least.

I have never owned a seagate drive since i never liked seagate and many people are reporting that seagate drives are DOA or dies within a few days.
There are many people who reported DOA on WD as well. It depends more on the model/rev/firmware in certain cases. You need to see that, not just the brand name alone.
 

happy17292

Ambassador of Buzz
There are many people who reported DOA on WD as well. It depends more on the model/rev/firmware in certain cases. You need to see that, not just the brand name alone.

I am talking about the hdd from that flipkart link i posted above.
Many people on the comment section have reported DOA / faulty disk. Thats why i am confused if i Should buy it or not
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
aaah I got this mail 2 weeks ago but I told them to put it on standby. Now, atleast a part of my workload is slightly reduced, so I could afford time enough to do this review.

What cabinet is this? Well, FROM THE MAKERS....err...RE-LABELLERS OF BIJLI 2 :-D. But by the rough looks of it, looks like zebby boys have given bit more thought. I seriously hope this is good considering the MRP tag raises my eyebrows at the very least.

There are many people who reported DOA on WD as well. It depends more on the model/rev/firmware in certain cases. You need to see that, not just the brand name alone.

thansk for the info.

hey guys what's the price of WD 2TB black? is there any other WD 2TB drive [except green] in market?

how's seagate barracuda 2TB drives?
Seagate Barracuda 2 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM001) - Seagate: Flipkart.com

I have never owned a seagate drive since i never liked seagate and many people are reporting that seagate drives are DOA or dies within a few days.

2TB Black costs ~10k
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
I think it absolutely worth it if the HDD is in physically good condition and has no bad sectors .. with 7k you still have 3 years warranty with good performance of Black HDD but before making the purchase just be sure about it's remaining warranty period using the s/n.
 
I would always prefer WD over segate. WD Cavier black HDDs are fast and have 5 years of warranty. But warranty cannot save your data if HDD is damanged because of some reason
 
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