coolest111
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wat model do u own?
16gb wifi or 16gb wifi+4g
Quote me ur price if u want 2 sell...
16gb wifi or 16gb wifi+4g
Quote me ur price if u want 2 sell...
It should be World War 4 IMO.WW3 already took place in MW3.
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screw tablets. get a galaxy note and a decent laptop. best of both worlds. and dont forget the gaming rig.
*ahem* open source developersfirst, the ipad is not a pc! get an android tab
second, you should have done your research before buying it
and finally this is very hypocritical of you, you are willing to shell out thousands of rupees on ipad but want all content to be free, should the developers and others earn nothing for a living?
i mean this is amazing hypocrisy ...
Gotta agree with that.My point was that ipad and tablets in general are marketed heavily as something that they really can't achieve; especially in an Indian context. India just isn't ready for tablets, or Apple, yet; at least not in a big way.
wat model do u own?
16gb wifi or 16gb wifi+4g
Quote me ur price if u want 2 sell...
Also, a friend of mine bought an iPad (same applies for any other tab) and basically said it's pretty much useless without an internet connection, you can't do much at all. He had to specifically get a cheap 3G plan (with retarded usage limit) to use the internet.
Even PCs these days are pretty much useless with Internet.
Tell your friend to get a broadband connection at home and browse the net using wifi.
Even PCs these days are pretty much useless with Internet.
so, you mean to say that we HAVE to have a fast net, and we, as a society, should flog ourselves before the altar of Apple to repent for the sin of *gasp* not having a fast net???
also, where did the OP mention he is comparing the tablet with a laptop?
10) Multitasking is really awkward. Although the ipad3 supports multitasking, it's not even close to what you would expect from a windows PC. Not having a task manager or control over apps to shut them down is annoying.
11) The Browser isn't that good. Neither safari or dolphin (the favorite web browser app) come anywhere close to the likes of IE9, Opera, Firefox or even Chrome. It's really odd that there's opera mini for smartphones but none for the ipad.
12) Gaming. Although it's not really something Indians do; it begs mention since gaming is such a heavily marketed feature. Gaming on the ipad is abysmal. You only have access to a handful of free games, and even then the games are terrible casual garbage like angry birds or 1 minute bejewelled. Don't expect to play diablo 3 or call of duty type games.
21) No cd/dvd support. Want to watch a movie on a dvd ? well sorry f%^% you.
25) Crappy network management. There's no way to easily check what apps are using the internet, what's being downloaded or updated and so on; it just "happens". There's a lack of control.
There isn't an easy to figure out network strength/packet loss on Wifi : on a laptop I can quickly pull up a ping or run d3tr and see if something is wrong with my connection; then reconnect to get a new gateway. Not really feasible on the ipad. Again, tablets are 1st world devices where bandwidth is a non-issue.
icloud, itunes and other apple bloatware are teh sux.
i mean, seriously? they are marketing cloud storage in a country where women are beaten and children turned into slaves just for an extra GB of bandwidth???
1) 16GB is peanuts. Yes, the packaging has a BIG 16GB print on it.
4)it's quite heavy and doesn't fit in your pocket. You can't really easily carry it around with you. It's not that amazing for bedtime reading since after a while your hands will ache holding it up. It doesn't in any way replace a book, for example. Since you'll want to rest it on a flat surface anyway, why not just get a laptop ?
5) Since Apple is firmly against all forms of pirated content and software; if we are to be realistic in an Indian scenario the consequences aren't too pretty. Apple intentionally cripples its own OS and has premium apps to do very basic things. So you're looking at a steady stream of $5-10 to do basic things. Apple is not the only one against piracy, they are just affective at implementing it, i.e. till a JB shows up Also Indians are not the ones developing the JB tools etc. I don't see why this becomes an "Indian" problem.
9) There is no back button like smartphones/android devices/PC. What! The back button appears on the top, each time you go into a sub menu. I would advice: "looking for it"
10) Multitasking is really awkward. Although the ipad3 supports multitasking, it's not even close to what you would expect from a windows PC. Not having a task manager or control over apps to shut them down is annoying.
11) The Browser isn't that good. Neither safari or dolphin (the favorite web browser app) come anywhere close to the likes of IE9, Opera, Firefox or even Chrome. It's really odd that there's opera mini for smartphones but none for the ipad.
12) Gaming. Although it's not really something Indians do; it begs mention since gaming is such a heavily marketed feature. Gaming on the ipad is abysmal. You only have access to a handful of free games, and even then the games are terrible casual garbage like angry birds or 1 minute bejewelled. Don't expect to play diablo 3 or call of duty type games. :epicfacepalm: > Why do you think in todays day, there are still the likes of a gaming PC, PS3, Xbox, Wii, Nintendo DS, PS Vita and Gizmondo
14) Since voltage fluctuations are common in India the charger (which hilariously uses a USB cord lulz) gets incredibly hot. Read this twice, didn't understand the point.
15) Photo management. If you have a hi-res SLR or prosumer camera; copying files to the ipad is a pain. First off you need a camera connection kit which is $20-30. There is little control on what is being copied and you'll fill up your pathetic 16 gigs from 1 set of pics from your camera. It won't be compressed so each image will be 5-6 megs.
On top of all this once you copy, say, 500 photos. There's no easy way to delete lots of them (say you take a bunch of shots, some are trash and you want to delete them, or you want to delete an entire folder). You have to select each file and delete individually. There is no select all or delete all option. Laughable isn't it ? yeah, I agree with the laughable part
16) Gaming - emulators. Many people enjoy playing 8/16 bit games of yesteryear on mobile devices laptops (old school mario, zelda etc). Again apple dislikes the legal implications of these so completely disallows any kind of emulation. Android. Period. (=...)
18) Does not support flash. Neither dolphin nor safari support flash and this means tons of websites won't show animations or just not work at all. It's not really something you can ignore when current tablet hardware can quite easily support flash. It's been 4 years. The debate is dead.
21) No cd/dvd support. Want to watch a movie on a dvd ? well sorry f%^% you. NO! No more. Please. Even my car doesn't fly!
22) No support for ADSL/DSL or thumbdrive wifi (no usb ). This means you have to buy a fairly expensive wifi router for your ipad. But be warned indian buildings with reinforced concrete floors+pillars and brick and mortar walls are terrible for wifi penetration. You are right. When I went to US, their butterscotch laden walls with Marshmellow reinforcement were both good for the wifi and it's hungry inmates. Yes, I've never been to US
24) iCloud - another heavily marketed but totally pointless feature in an India context; along with all forms of cloud computing which receives considerable media hype. What's the point of storing massive amounts of data online when internet is a)slow b) limited and c) expensive ?
These things make start making sense with unlimited 20 Mbps or higher connections. Not on sh1tty 1mbps lines with pathetic limits (FUP), horrible packet loss, jitter and latency.
1mbps is pretty much enough to upload your files. Unless you want to stream it down 1080p. Apple also supports dropbox and box. Use them.
I'm not saying the ipad is a bad tablet. Right now it's easily the best tablet in the market. The problem is that in India it really has too many issues to be a purchase that's really worth it. In fact, *any* tablet is a very questionable purchase in India. Why? What's so wrong with our country that we can't even have a tablet here.
It's ok if you want a casual web reader and it really is the best way to view colorful pdf docs. You just nailed it here. That's what tablets do
21) No cd/dvd support. Want to watch a movie on a dvd ? well sorry f%^% you.
The point was that 16/32/64GB is miniscule when netbooks that cost less have far more storage space. The ipad is supposed to be a media consumption device and media takes a lot of space. Not having USB support is bizarre when it's so easy to have tons of media on an external hard drive or an external cd/dvd drive.1) Yes, the packaging has a BIG 16GB print on it.
The point is tablets aren't *that* mobile. A smartphone is, and if you can carry around a tablet, why not just carry a netbook or small laptop ?4)it's quite heavy and doesn't fit in your pocket. You can't really easily carry it around with you. It's not that amazing for bedtime reading since after a while your hands will ache holding it up. It doesn't in any way replace a book, for example. Since you'll want to rest it on a flat surface anyway, why not just get a laptop ?
Piracy is an "indian" problem given how extremely rampant it is. Not only are Indians used to piracy, there are dozens of foreign films and TV shows that are simply unavailable in India which forces you to pirate. Extremely limited codec support means that watching them on your ipad is a chore.5) Apple is not the only one against piracy, they are just affective at implementing it, i.e. till a JB shows up Also Indians are not the ones developing the JB tools etc. I don't see why this becomes an "Indian" problem.
The main issue is extremely limited context sensitive buttons. Apple always tries to simplify design, but in doing that they make it more awkward to do many basic tasks.9) What! The back button appears on the top, each time you go into a sub menu. I would advice: "looking for it"
or a netbook, or a laptop.10) windows PC.
Not sure what the problem is here; I just mentioned a couple of browsers.
Support for gaming is extremely limited as is the selection of games available. Tablet gaming received a huge amount of hype over the last few years but really it hasn't taken off at all.12) Gaming.
:epicfacepalm: > Why do you think in todays day, there are still the likes of a gaming PC, PS3, Xbox, Wii, Nintendo DS, PS Vita and Gizmondo
the charger gets hot.14) charger Read this twice, didn't understand the point.
The lack of a basic file explorer makes it harder to organize photos. It's not really too much to ask for to delete entire folders quickly.15) Photo management. Laughable isn't it ? yeah, I agree with the laughable part
I know emulators are available on the android. They aren't on the ipad. They might come out once the ipad 3 is jailbroken I guess.16) Gaming - emulators. Android. Period. (=...)
It's not a debate. Flash is used by lots of websites and there really isn't any good reason not to support it.18) flash. The debate is dead.
Absurd hyperboles ? Why is it too much to ask for to want basic USB support ? This isn't directed exclusively to ipads but tablets in general.21) No cd/dvd support. Want to watch a movie on a dvd ? well sorry f%^% you. NO! No more. Please. Even my car doesn't fly!
what ?22) You are right. When I went to US, their butterscotch laden walls with Marshmellow reinforcement were both good for the wifi and it's hungry inmates. Yes, I've never been to US
Why would I waste limited bandwidth on backing up files to a cloud server ?24) iCloud
1mbps is pretty much enough to upload your files. Unless you want to stream it down 1080p. Apple also supports dropbox and box. Use them.
a $130 wifi router+cd drive ? do you seriously think anyone would ever buy this ? Even the review you linked doesn't like it...Samsung Optical Smart Hub SE-208BW review -- Engadget
what ?Back-trolled
It's alright I suppose. For me personally, the lack of a good file explorer was crippling. A good example I talked about is deleting entire folders, and seeing exactly how much space your photos are occupying.hmmm the photo manager is great
you can create multiple albums based on the diff sets of photos camera roll (once you take with iPad), photostream (synced photos with iCloud) and photo library (photos synced with dekstop)
Oh I can definitely see that tablets would be appealing to some people; but there are definite problems to a device like the ipad that is marketed to be a laptop replacement, when it's not.your argument is that tablets are useless for everyone because you don't have a use for it. don't worry about what "everyone else" should use
a similar statement would be nobody needs dSLRs because prosumers are better in most circumstances
Yup, that's the thing; it's a niche device. It's definitely not something that the typical user would want. In India the average computer user is a lot more of a "power user" than the US. It's actually quite surprising how stupid some american users are, so very simplistic devices are more appropriate there. Just something to consider. In the USA there are people that are very ordinary/barely uneducated people using smart devices. Compare that to the demographic of people buying them here in India. It's fair to assume that the typical Indian tech consumer is a lot more comfortable with things that americans would call "nerdy".there can be no assumptions on how someone else may use a specific device, because these devices are extremely personal, you settled down to use it as an ebook reader, others may find some such niche use and be happy
Agreed. That's one of the reasons I have one. I just pointed out some obvious deficiencies specific to the ipad and tablets in general.often, people have some extra cash to buy something nice, or may want to gift something to their relatives, in such cases, the less "necessary" items like digital photo frames, e-book readers and tablets make good sense instead of just giving another phone