Disappointed with the performance of PALiT HD4850 compared to XFX 9800GTX+

[damngoodman999]

^I have played Crysis And how's BioShock?? Are there any ghosts??

i think u r bit confused

XFX cards are much more complicated one & they are the biggest graphics card manufacturer . their prices are also very high for their name .

Almost 9800GTX+ & HD4850 are same in performance .

palit HD 4850 = 9500/-
XFX 9800GTX+ = 14500/-

The Game called "crysis" is really a crap one almost they work better in the INTEL + NVIDIA cards .

if u want the powerful gaming means

Put another one HD 4850 crossfire it & get the Better CPU cooler for E8400 and overclock to 4Ghz . ur gaming rig will beat ur bros

MSI P45 platinum is good choice for for single HD 4850 .

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

^I can't It's too costly for me. I have to buy a new MoBo & another HD4850, Aftermarket cooler!! Anyway, I am not worried about the performance, 'cause just 2-3fps, who cares???

@tkin
How's BioShock??? I've read some reviews and they say it's damn good Is BioShock more scarier than STALKER: CS. Please dude, I am sensitive, I can't take scary things

 

[comp@ddict]

BIOSHOCK RULEz

U tried Fallout 3?

Hi, I told my cousin to buy XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ . I told my father to buy me PALiT HD4850 Sonic. He agreed, but he told me "This is last upgrade you'll make until your Bro joins any University". Woohoo!!, Yesterday I bought the HD4850, thinking that mine is faster than my cousin's . But..No, I was little disappointed. So, I went with my card to my bro's [cousin's] house to challenge him, reading in some forums that HD4850 is faster than GF 9800GTX+ . He was playing Crysis, I asked him "Yo! Let's compare". In Crysis, a level where a ship will be crashed and it will be frozen and the alien will take Jester. In that level, the XFX was giving 18-19 fps and sometimes 22 fps!! So I plugged The Sonic and in that same level, Mine was giving 16-17 fps!! and sometimes 19fps . I also Benched with the Crysis Benching Tool. But XFX was faster, I thought that the Crysis was NVIDIA-Optimized. So we tested FarCry 2 and again XFX was faster. We tested GoW, In that, mine was almost beating the XFX . In UT3, Mine was no where near the XFX!! Almost in every game the XFX was beating me by 2-3 fps. So at last he said to me, "Thanks, bro for suggesting me this great card!!" . I was so angry that I Literally cried!! . Anyway, if anyone any having this confusion and will upgrade after 1-2 yrs, I suggest you go for 9800GTX+, especially XFX. One thing that is making me happy is that I have joined the "HD4850 League" . The settings used in all games was :

Resolution: 1440x900
AA: 4x
Quality: In every games the possible highest settings was set [DX9]

Comp. Config.:
Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
3GB DDR2 RAM 667MHz
ASUS P5Q-Pro M/B
XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB & PALiT Radeon HD4850 Sonic 512MB
CM eXtreme Power Duo 600W
ViewSonic 19" Moniter [I don't know the model no.!!]

1. Tried 1680x1050?
2. Tried games which give acceptable frames to both cards for testing?
3. Tried DX10 titles?
4. Tried more than 4xAA?

9800GTX+ ki phatti hai ek baar settings aur high ho jaye.

And I think his card was a pre-OCX which is highly overclocked.

 

[damngoodman999]

BIOSHOCK RULEz

U tried Fallout 3?


1. Tried 1680x1050?
2. Tried games which give acceptable frames to both cards for testing?
3. Tried DX10 titles?
4. Tried more than 4xAA?

9800GTX+ ki phatti hai ek baar settings aur high ho jaye.

And I think his card was a pre-OCX which is highly overclocked.

ya right i forgot abt this

In DX 10 9800GTX+ will never beat the HD 4850

& also AA & AF Sure HD 4850 is ahead !!!

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

^^I tested with DX10 and 8x AA in all games. But XFX was faster, really . My Bro's having 19" Monitor, so the games give only 1440x900. Overall the XFX was beating be by 2-3fps, even in DX10 and 1440x900. I personally saw the benchies those games and XFX was faster in all the games, except GoW.

 

[vish786]

post system config of your PC as well as your cousin's in detail

 

[Anubhav7]

post system config of your PC as well as your cousin's in detail

+1

pls post them

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

I have posted My Cousin's specs on the first post, My Specs are on my Siggy . Anyway here it is [My Cousin's]

CPU - Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
RAM - 3GB RAM DDR2 667MHz
MoBo - ASUS P5Q-Pro
PSU - CM eXtreme Power Duo 600W
GPU - XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB
My PC's specs.:

CPU - Same
RAM - Same
MoBo - Intel DG31PR
PSU - Same
GPU - PALiT Radeon HD1850 Sonic 512MB

@CompAddict
Which is scarier: Crysis or BioShock???

 

[Pathik]

^ None are really scary. Bioshock is a bit spooky at times. And get a better Mobo.

 

[damngoodman999]

I have posted My Cousin's specs on the first post, My Specs are on my Siggy . Anyway here it is [My Cousin's]

CPU - Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
RAM - 3GB RAM DDR2 667MHz
MoBo - ASUS P5Q-Pro
PSU - CM eXtreme Power Duo 600W
GPU - XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB
My PC's specs.:

CPU - Same
RAM - Same
MoBo - Intel DG31PR
PSU - Same
GPU - PALiT Radeon HD1850 Sonic 512MB

@CompAddict
Which is scarier: Crysis or BioShock???

here s the point dude ,

Intel DG31PR is low End board cost 3200/-

Asus P5Q-pro is good board and supports full bandwidth for the PCIe in single HD 4850


Get MSI P45 platinum then see the difference

 

[comp@ddict]

I have posted My Cousin's specs on the first post, My Specs are on my Siggy . Anyway here it is [My Cousin's]

CPU - Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
RAM - 3GB RAM DDR2 667MHz
MoBo - ASUS P5Q-Pro
PSU - CM eXtreme Power Duo 600W
GPU - XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB
My PC's specs.:

CPU - Same
RAM - Same
MoBo - Intel DG31PR
PSU - Same
GPU - PALiT Radeon HD1850 Sonic 512MB

@CompAddict
Which is scarier: Crysis or BioShock???

^ None are really scary. Bioshock is a bit spooky at times. And get a better Mobo.

Spoke my mind

 

[hellgate]

just saw something which shocked me.

just tested the HD4850 which was lying around with me.though why not bench a single XFX 9800GT and see perf diff bet it & the HD4850 and wat i saw almost shocked me.
starting from 3DMarks06 to all most all games (only xception is Saints Row 2) the 9800GT beat the hell out of the HD4850.
both cards were oc'd to 30MHz more from core clk speeds.mem running @ 1000MHz in each.

Drivers used were Forceware 185.20 & Catalyst 8.12.os is Vista Ultimate 32bit.
test config is in my sig.

all games were played @ 1680x1050.

 

[kanishka]

Aint Asus EAH4850(HD 4850) far more better than palit HD 4850 Sonic??...

 

[dOm1naTOr]

but expensive too

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

starting from 3DMarks06 to all most all games (only xception is Saints Row 2) the 9800GT beat the hell out of the HD4850.

Why even bother testing a game like Saints Row 2 which is locked at 30fps?

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

Which's better MoBo: MSI P7N-SLi Platinum or MSI P45 Neo-F???? Is P45 MoBo havin' PCIe 2.0

@hellgate

I too tested with my older eVGA 9800GT Akimbo, surely HD4850 was beating that. Definately HD4850 was faster than 9800GT, but slower than 9800GTX+

@kanishka

Yes, I had a choice to select between them, I selected PALiT . It was having better cooling and a 1,500 bucks cheap! Which game's better suited for ATi Cards??? Please let me know.

 

[vish786]

I have posted My Cousin's specs on the first post, My Specs are on my Siggy . Anyway here it is [My Cousin's]

CPU - Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
RAM - 3GB RAM DDR2 667MHz
MoBo - ASUS P5Q-Pro
PSU - CM eXtreme Power Duo 600W
GPU - XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB
My PC's specs.:

CPU - Same
RAM - Same
MoBo - Intel DG31PR
PSU - Same
GPU - PALiT Radeon HD1850 Sonic 512MB

@CompAddict
Which is scarier: Crysis or BioShock???

your cousin has a better mobo with higher bus speed and this matters extensively while testing/benchmarking and secondly you gotta have same settings on both systems like ram freq, etc. what you did isnt the correct way of testing/benchmark cos both hardware differ(mobo & maybe others things).

When actual benchmarking is done to check performance you "must" have same goddamn hardware expect for the gfx card to be tested thats the way whole world does benchmarking.

Be happy with your purchase whatever the case is

 

[comp@ddict]

Hmm, leave fps, lets talk about IMAGE quality with CFAA in Ati

 

[tkin]

Hmm, leave fps, lets talk about IMAGE quality with CFAA in Ati

What with Image Quality? There's no special image quality with ATI cards, what are you talking about? AA doesn't make your game look better, eg-Run Crysis everything maxed out and 4xAA is enough. AA just cuts out the jaggedness, remember GOW, without AA it just looks as fine as with AA.

BTW- I thought SSAA was the best AA process. What increases image quality is AF, not AA.

 

[kanishka]

Though i didnt check out fps...But the hands which run like butter in my card(EAH 4850)at full config are:

1)Crysis:Warhead
2)farcry 2
3)call of duty 5:modern warfare
4)masseffect(although it bugged out later due to some sh*t reason.)

if these games runs smooth in your card than most probably every other game will run at full config..

My Config:

Q6600 oc'ed to 2.83 GHz
ASUS P5QL-EM
2 X 2 GB TRANSCEND 800MHz
Seagate 500GB Hard disk


I have even overcloaked the graphics performance to shader clock 720MHz(from 680) and memory clock to 1120(from 1080)...The major disadvantage of card is heating which reaches to 90 C..Though now i have manually changed the fan speed so system never stops responding due to gfx Card..