AMD Trinity & Richland APU Discussion

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Skud

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Return of Athlons:-

AMD working on socket FM2 Athlons
 

topgear

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Read the duos ;-)
AMD to launch Trinity desktop APUs on the 1st October? - CPU - News - HEXUS.net
AMD's top-end Trinity desktop chip could cost just $130, the same as a budget Core i3 -- Engadget
 

d6bmg

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Read the duos ;-)
AMD to launch Trinity desktop APUs on the 1st October? - CPU - News - HEXUS.net
AMD's top-end Trinity desktop chip could cost just $130, the same as a budget Core i3 -- Engadget

I like the pricing rumor if the trinity. :p
Hopefully, they will perform, or price of Intel processor will go higher & higher.
 

topgear

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^^ they will perform good for sure but not like Intel cpus - the main selling point of Trinity is it's strong igpu.
 

d6bmg

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^^ They will never perform anywhere close to Intel chips, but what I mean to say say by the word 'erform' is that I hope that they will be sold in a desired amount and must not be a flop as bulldozers.
 

topgear

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^^ They will never perform anywhere close to Intel chips, but what I mean to say say by the word 'erform' is that I hope that they will be sold in a desired amount and must not be a flop as bulldozers.

nope, they won't be a flop as BDs - Trinity will make it place under ~4-6k cpu segment.
 

dabster

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I think the fastest quad-core 65W Trinity desktop APU would be the best choice for power and performance POV.

I have question on similar lines. we have 5500 and 5600k(similarly priced) Trinity CPU's but with 65W and 100W - TDP is always the max rated value so for same task being achieved in both configs will lead to same power usage ? (Looks theory but here an example.) -
you run pro-e on 2 configs will both use same amount of power ? or is it something that even with no load a higher TDP rated CPU is going to use more power ?
 

sukesh1090

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^^ They will never perform anywhere close to Intel chips, but what I mean to say say by the word 'erform' is that I hope that they will be sold in a desired amount and must not be a flop as bulldozers.

bulldozer may be a flop in perform but if iam right it was not that flop in sales because the world's first 8 core band wagon earned them adequate amount of money;-)

I have question on similar lines. we have 5500 and 5600k(similarly priced) Trinity CPU's but with 65W and 100W - TDP is always the max rated value so for same task being achieved in both configs will lead to same power usage ? (Looks theory but here an example.) -
you run pro-e on 2 configs will both use same amount of power ? or is it something that even with no load a higher TDP rated CPU is going to use more power ?

Higher TDP means it can withstand higher clocks or can feed for more ocing in both gpu and cpu part but as far as power consumption at same load level is concerned it is difficult to answer because consider,
If 5500 is giving you 60 FPS with 80% load and 5600 is giving 80 FPS with 80% load then if i am not wrong then the power consumption of 5600 will be more but if 5600 is giving 60 FPS with 50% load then the power consumption will be equal or may be even less for 5600 but at idle it will almost same.
to put it simple the power consumption depends upon architecture's efficiency not TDP. TDP is just a ceiling point beyond which the power consumption of cpu and gpu won't go.
 

topgear

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to put it simple the power consumption depends upon architecture's efficiency not TDP. TDP is just a ceiling point beyond which the power consumption of cpu and gpu won't go.

buddy your definition of TDP is not right .. first get proper idea about what TDP is ;-)
Thermal design power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

sukesh1090

Adam young
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^^
thanks bro but i am getting confused,
The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, such as by a power virus, but rather the maximum power that it would draw when running "real applications". This ensures the computer will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding its thermal envelope.
 

topgear

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The Thermal Design Power (TDP) is the average maximum power a processor can dissipate while running commercially available software. TDP is primarily used as a guideline for manufacturers of thermal solutions (heatsinks/fans, etc) which tells them how much heat their solution should dissipate. TDP is not the maximum power the CPU may generate - there may be periods of time when the CPU dissipates more power than designed, in which case either the CPU temperature will rise closer to the maximum, or special CPU circuitry will activate and add idle cycles or reduce CPU frequency with the intent of reducing the amount of generated power.

*www.cpu-world.com/Glossary/T/Thermal_Design_Power_(TDP).html
 

dabster

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I have question on similar lines. we have 5500 and 5600k(similarly priced) Trinity CPU's but with 65W and 100W - TDP is always the max rated value so for same task being achieved in both configs will lead to same power usage ? (Looks theory but here an example.) -
you run pro-e on 2 configs will both use same amount of power ? or is it something that even with no load a higher TDP rated CPU is going to use more power ?

:) - So now can somebody tell what they think about it. This is a specific case where I am comparing 2 very close models.
<hope amd actually makes these processors available soon though first ;-)>
 

topgear

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@ dabster - most probably the higher TDP model will consume slightly more power and 5600K has 400 Mhz closk speed advantage and based on the same architecture cpus with higher clock speed generally consumes a little more power.
 

ranjitsd

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good review

AMD Trinity Review: The A10 5800K and A8 5600K Break Cover | PC Perspective
 

kg11sgbg

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Being an AMD Fanboy and a non-gamer user ,I shall always delve on AMD products.:mrgreen:

For me, the APU series by AMD "Trinity" are exceptional amazing.

I am not going into the nitty-gritty (BIASED!!!) benchmarkings of various sites. I shall not compare with Intel.Let them do whatever they like...

I would prefer to buy the AMD A10 5700 "Quad-Core APU" (65W TDP) in the coming Future( may be beginning of next year/1st Quarter of 2013).

Likeable choice of socket FM2 (AMD A85 chipset) motherboards from BIOSTAR/ASROCK/ECS.

Known to everybody that, sheer bad luck can be a worrisome and a painful experience from so called STALWART motherboards manufacturers:---> GIGABYTE or ASUS or MSI as mentioned in the section of "Service and RMA Watch" threads of this TDF.
 
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sukesh1090

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nice review.thanks ranjitsd for review link.

one thing i observed in 7zip was that 5800k was beating i3 in single threaded test so looks like an improvement but its scores same as Fx4170. though there is 400Mhz clock speed advantage for 4170 but i don't think it will make much of a difference.trinity still does not clear out the performance about piledriver and i am not even hoping for much of an performance improvement for piledriver over bulldozer.but time will only answer this.till then:Fingerx:
now coming to A10 5800K its price is 122$ you kidding me!!!OMG this is a steal for that price.$122 for 5800k+$85 for HD6670 you can do gaming at 1080P with mid to high settings with eyefinity support at total cost of $207-210.where as you can get i5-2500k or i5 3###k for around $220 and you know at what resolution:p can do gaming without discrete GPU.:wink:this is what i call a comparison and blockbuster victory for trinity.Trinity gonna be a treat for people who wants an awesome gaming rig which can play games at HD resolution at around 25-30k.:clap2:
 
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