Next Gen Console discussion ( PS4 'n Xbox One'n Wii U )

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vickybat

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Business Strategy. Get most money out of customers. :)

Its not a mere strategy. Its not worth the time and work spent ( from a business and revenue generating point of view) to port all games to work on newer hardware.

Ibm powerpc architecture uses RISC instructions. Porting them to x86 is tedious.
The old chip also can't be integrated into the new pcb due to higher costs of extra hardware.
 

tkin

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So to all those who bought PS3 games worth $1000, adios, they will stop production by 2015 I think. This is why you game on a PC, I can still play Doom, quake, road rash, ain't nothing gonna change that :D :D
 

anirbandd

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Business Strategy. Get most money out of customers. :)

Its not a mere strategy. Its not worth the time and work spent ( from a business and revenue generating point of view) to port all games to work on newer hardware.

Ibm powerpc architecture uses RISC instructions. Porting them to x86 is tedious.
The old chip also can't be integrated into the new pcb due to higher costs of extra hardware.

yeah i knew the moment it parted away from the Cell proccy..

So to all those who bought PS3 games worth $1000, adios, they will stop production by 2015 I think. This is why you game on a PC, I can still play Doom, quake, road rash, ain't nothing gonna change that :D :D

you are forgetting that console devs reap huge profit coz games are not pirated to a level as PC games. why do you think MS made Halo, Gears of War, Forza, etc XBox exclusive? Why are Uncharted, GoW, MGS4, GT, all console exclusive, even though consoles are harder to work on...
 

tkin

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yeah i knew the moment it parted away from the Cell proccy..



you are forgetting that console devs reap huge profit coz games are not pirated to a level as PC games. why do you think MS made Halo, Gears of War, Forza, etc XBox exclusive? Why are Uncharted, GoW, MGS4, GT, all console exclusive, even though consoles are harder to work on...
Starcraft II :D :D

And F2P, like Firefall, Tribes Ascend and Crimecraft are just too awesome, I was on of the first users to get a firefall beta key, its public now I think, I don't mind a few exclusives for the consoles :D :D
 

gameranand

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yeah i knew the moment it parted away from the Cell proccy..



you are forgetting that console devs reap huge profit coz games are not pirated to a level as PC games. why do you think MS made Halo, Gears of War, Forza, etc XBox exclusive? Why are Uncharted, GoW, MGS4, GT, all console exclusive, even though consoles are harder to work on...

Every console has its exclusive including PC, its not much of a big issue at all. No console player can play a RTS yet on any console expect PC, also RPGs are best played on PC LTIC. What I mean that you never run out of really awesome games with any console or PC.
 

vickybat

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Xbox 720 (durango) gpu details are almost confirmed. It will be based on a radeon 7770 with 768 shaders in total.
Total number of CU's will be 12 each having 4 simd's and each simd unit will have 16 alu's or stream processors. Each CU or SC (SIMD cluster) will have its own l1 cache, vector and scalar registers & most importantly a dedicated scheduler. The architecture is undoubtedly GCN and is a big step forward from xbox 360's xenos chip.

Detailed Specifications of Microsoft Xbox Next GPU Emerge on the Web - X-bit labs

But ps4 or orbis seems to have a more powerful gpu as per leaks. It has 18 CU's as opposed to 12 in durango.
 

tkin

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7770, hmm, so, optimized it will be equivalent to say a 7870? Good, maybe its time we can use the monstrous GPU's we keep buying.
 

vickybat

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The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray discs and new Kinect

Say goodbye to pre-owned games.
 

anirbandd

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piracy in console games is almost none compared to PC games. check the seeds on torrent sites.

i hope Sony wont make move like this as well..
 

vickybat

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^^ It seems they are using the technology patented by sony. So ps4(orbis) might also block used games.

HARDOCP - Next Xbox Will Block Used Games?
 

tkin

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good move against piracy
:facepalm:

Buying a second hand game is not piracy.

This will actually hurt business and would hurt Indian customers a lot, many of my friends own consoles, now most of the times they trade games among themselves, because games cost around 2.5k here, and unless a person is a very rich man its hard to afford 20*2.5k=50k for games per year, this would kill console in India, I can absolutely bet on that, any person who is informed about this feature won't buy it, unless he has 50k to spare for gaming per year, also note here this will be heavily contested by shops like gamestop etc and EU will probably throw this restriction out of the door: EU court rules second-hand sales of digital goods legal | bit-gamer.net

If you buy something it belongs to you, you should be allowed to sell it, if not then reduce game prices by atleast 80%. Spending $60 on something that you'll use for a week and forget about it? Specially here in India where its 2.5k? Games that won't have a popular multiplayer mode will collect dust in the shelves.
 

amjath

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Buying a second hand game is not piracy.

This will actually hurt business and would hurt Indian customers a lot, many of my friends own consoles, now most of the times they trade games among themselves, because games cost around 2.5k here, and unless a person is a very rich man its hard to afford 20*2.5k=50k for games per year, this would kill console in India, I can absolutely bet on that, any person who is informed about this feature won't buy it, unless he has 50k to spare for gaming per year, also note here this will be heavily contested by shops like gamestop etc and EU will probably throw this restriction out of the door: EU court rules second-hand sales of digital goods legal | bit-gamer.net

If you buy something it belongs to you, you should be allowed to sell it, if not then reduce game prices by atleast 80%. Spending $60 on something that you'll use for a week and forget about it? Specially here in India where its 2.5k? Games that won't have a popular multiplayer mode will collect dust in the shelves.

Oops Sorry missed this Second hand game word entirely from the article. My eyes were only on "Always Online". Thinking that It ll eradicate piracy by downloading games from torrent and modding
So as far as Second hand game thing is concerned, they really want to make money
 

tkin

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Oops Sorry missed this Second hand game word entirely from the article. My eyes were only on "Always Online". Thinking that It ll eradicate piracy by downloading games from torrent and modding
So as far as Second hand game thing is concerned, they really want to make money
As if they don't make enough, just use a online pass system, like where they charge to use online mp, like some ea games are doing, why stop the entire secondhand game system? Or charge say $5 to activate a second hand game, locking it is crazy.
 

vickybat

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Third party modders might come up with a fix. Removing the security check can be achieved with some software patch which is not impossible.
Besides, this is pc hardware and has a high chance of getting modded easily.

But the move was definitely stupid by microsoft ( sony too).
 

anirbandd

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now now, lets not count the chickens before they hatch. wait till 20th feb, and then we'll talk about what PS3 has taken away from/given to the gamers
 
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