Windows is !easy, Linux is !hard

[Tech_Wiz]

Nope, it depends on how u use windows.

To be honest if you dont install them it is like keeping the door all time open and saying there is no theft chance. Sooner or later it will cause problem.

DDoS Attcks, Spyware monitoring your activity and may be Password theft and in worst of cases viruses and also theft of Paypal account authontification data. I personally feel its very dangerous.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

I am still staying away from this topic... till iMav starts posting

anyway, you keep telling us that lotsa propiatary stuff is available on win, but do you realise that they cost a heck lot? you need to be the richest rich boy around to own all of them...

i started a thread to discuss the concequences if all windows software could easily run on linux(that which can only happen if windows became OSS), which might have been disasterous for windows, but saurav and shantanu misunderstood the objective of that topic and the latter closed the thread

no offence, but why do some windows users don't even care to accept the fact that windows does have many pits? acceptance of mistakes is the first step towards greatness.

if win7 had a rewritten C/C# based unix style kernel , with all the stuff it currently has, and ext3, winFS, xvid; I suppose windows may win the OS wars. but, thats a long way from happening

 

[iMav]

I am still staying away from this topic... till iMav starts posting

thank u for bringing me in else if i wud post then cyrus wud cry that im answering on gx's behalf

i started a thread to discuss the concequences if all windows software could easily run on linux

oops wrong thread this is to discuss whether windows is easier or linux is harder cyrus started thsi thread by copying some frustrated soul's FUD about how installing something is difficult on windows as compared to linux and i posted the exact ways which are practical no 1 bothered to talk on em

no offence, but why do some windows users don't even care to accept the fact that windows does have many pits? acceptance of mistakes is the first step towards greatness.

pits might be there very much like in linux or osx nothing is perfect but the step towards greatness should be taken by something that is trying to overtake and not by something that is numeor uno

if win7 had a rewritten C/C# based unix style kernel , with all the stuff it currently has, and ext3, winFS, xvid; I suppose windows may win the OS wars. but, thats a long way from happening

i will personally call steve ballmer for this

having said that now that divx is coming to xbox i think we might get it for windows 7 too

 

[gxsaurav]

DDoS Attcks, Spyware monitoring your activity and may be Password theft and in worst of cases viruses and also theft of Paypal account authontification data.

Use some common sence, & something like Adbrick or Ad muncher & most of your problems will be solved.

anyway, you keep telling us that lotsa propiatary stuff is available on win, but do you realise that they cost a heck lot? you need to be the richest rich boy around to own all of them...

If u consider Professional applications like Maya or Autodesk apps then they deserver to be paid because u make hell lot of money using these software.

If you are talking about general purpose consumer grade apps then either there is always a free alternative like XNView is to ACDsee or Irfanview, Broadgun PDF Machine is to Adobe Acrobat etc

Other then these, there are few applications which are actually worth paying. I use ACDSee, MyPhoneExplorer extensively....so I would be glad to pay the price for these, I did buy the license of ACDSee 5 legal once...due to which I was able to upgrade to v7 too....after that the new versions don't make much difference, so I m using v9 now

why do some windows users don't even care to accept the fact that windows does have many pits? acceptance of mistakes is the first step towards greatness

We do accept the pits of Windows, however why don't u accept the fact that linux is still no where close to Windows when it comes to ease of use,feature & 3rd party support

 

[Tech_Wiz]

Man if you think only stopping ads being posted and pop up busters make win secure then I disagree.

Windows needs softwares to make it secure. [Most of them if not all are also available for free]

 

[iMav]

^^ well actually using av is more of a precaution as discussed previously in some thread; vista's inbuilt security options with defender are sufficient but they have to be coupled with some common sense - nothing just comes into ur pc without u doing something to allow it

 

[superczar]

imav.....
Gx....

Give me a way to do this on windows:
Headless NASSeedboxMan

Edit: Don't you say Windows home server..it comes nowehere close to the capabilities of this despite demanding hardware 3 times more powerful

 

[iMav]

i wonder y would a home user need this .... we have been talking about twhich os is easy and infra has always stopped his recorder on how is it different or same from a normal user's perspective .... y would a average user need two comps at home and btw i had read abt this long back on another site and have failed to understand any use of something like this at home

 

[superczar]

Hahaha....you didnt even bother to read the article imav

because the article starts off with the very reasons why anyone would want such a thing at home

Introduction

Do I need a home server you ask?
Do any of the situations below sound familiar?

• You have 2 or more computers at home with files fragmented between them and multiple copies of multiple files (music/movies/docs) spread all over the place?
• You are a compulsive downloader and have accounts to multiple private trackers. Your primary beast machine runs 24X7 guzzling power and dissipating heat only to use like 0.1% of its processing capabilities while downloading
• You have often felt the need to gain access to some of the files at your home while visiting friends/colleagues. Like, " Oh, I wish I could show you the pics I took in the last office party...If only I had remembered to carry them in my pen-drive"
• You are at office and someone is raving about a new album and you wish you could hear it the moment you hit home
• you are stuck in a traffic jam and realize you forgot to start that all important DivX to mp4 conversion for a bunch of videos

If the answers to any of the above is yes, hehe, you need a home server

So what and how is this home server going to run? What else but Linux on some very basic hardware. And best of all, there is no need for even a mouse/Keyboard/monitor

You really need to read what has been posted before posting back, and putting your own foot in your mouth!

As for 2 comps, more and more homes (esp. Urban) have more than 1 machine ...

In fact I think you did state something abt 3 machines at your place


As for which OS is easy and which isn't....Well, doing this on Linux may not be easy ..but at least it isnt impossible as on windows.... Hahahahaha

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

the question was how mavy not why?


btw superczar your tut is superb (especially the part about controlling it through your mobile phone),recommending it to some friends.way to go man kudos!

 

[Faun]

i hav 2 desktop PCs,
one is presscott and other C2D.
Win is on Presscott and Lin is on C2D.
I would consider doing same when old PC disintegrate.

 

[iMav]

how to do it on windows will have to see (dont know) however its not impossible using vnc coz iv read a similar tut which used kubuntu and xp so another machine using 98 or xp wouldnt be any differnet but at the same time setup will be much much simpler coz u dont need any commands but all gui .... it can be done using vnc on both machines for sure

 

[praka123]

@superczar:very nice tut

 

[Faun]

how to do it on windows will have to see (dont know) however its not impossible using vnc coz iv read a similar tut which used kubuntu and xp so another machine using 98 or xp wouldnt be any differnet but at the same time setup will be much much simpler coz u dont need any commands but all gui .... it can be done using vnc on both machines for sure

gui is a kill for older systems

 

[iMav]

^ocmon t159 how old system will u dig up today i have used xp and 98 dual boot on a pII with 96 mb ram both working flawlessly well; i guess thats old enough for any tech savy guy who can or wants to do something of that sort

 

[superczar]

GUI would not only kill older systems

Using VNC over the internet would be painfully slow
Using VNC over GPRS would be near impossible

Hell, using VNC is just a workaround and not an elegant solution anyway

i have used xp and vista dual boot on a pII with 96 mb ram

OMG...You sure are a brave and patient man...
How long did Vista take to boot....24 hrs?

 

[iMav]

excuses galore

 

[gxsaurav]

gui is a kill for older systems

Define old here. How old a system?

 

[Faun]

Define old here. How old a system?

you never know, its pretty much relative.

Obviously the machine is wihout appendages, who will click the gui button if there is no need of mouse and keyboards and everything can be made automatic by simply writing a shell script to the session for the very first installation.

dont u think gui will let in more bugs in the machine and make it prone to crashes? Adding abstraction comes at cost

OMG...You sure are a brave and patient man...
How long did Vista take to boot....24 hrs?

ftw

 

[preshit.net]

OMG...You sure are a brave and patient man...
How long did Vista take to boot....24 hrs?

Forget the boot, imagine the install time