Which One is better deal ? SGS IV or SXZ or HTC ONE ?

Which One would you Prefer ?

  • Samsung Galaxy S IV

    Votes: 26 32.9%
  • SONY Xperia Z

    Votes: 27 34.2%
  • HTC ONE

    Votes: 30 38.0%
  • I would like to suggest another phone...

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Total voters
    79

nick191

Journeyman
c'mon guys let's start this thread to clear out buyers (m also the one) which one is better deal for them accordance to their needs and wants... ?

So there is a TOUGH competition between these Three phone in most aspect so which one will you suggest and why ?
m also confused in this fight...

Also Vote in POLL to clear out the Perfect WINNER
 

pratyush997

Inactive
After thinking for a while I concluded that s4 is better because-
HTC one won't be less than 45k and xperia Z is out of question when a more powerful device exists.
HTC one only if you need a awesome looking device
S4 is you don't care about it's looks (not too bad though)
Choice is yours.
My vote goes to s4
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
S4 will trump all..
Apart from the inside hardware, it is much better in terms of user interface (HTC One will come second)
 

Hrishi

******************
One more vote for Sony's Experia Z. Awesome looking phone. Plus I get Katrina alongwith it.:wink:
 
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nick191

nick191

Journeyman
While which one to buy is your choice. GS4 will launch in India in May. HTC One will launch late April - Early May.

well i have created this for ALL potential buyers not for only me and i am also confused between these phones...

All of you guys keep us all updated by sharing your known information and also post some video to make it easy i also gonna do that hope you also will do that.

bit early to comment don't u guys think

yeah you are right it's too early to comment but we will keep discussing about pros and cons with Video and all that...

for HTC ONE's review *gizmodo.com/5990716/htc-one-review-the-beauty-is-a-beast

may you will think that this video is Waste of Time but skip it and see the Difference,the huge difference



This one is for Xperia Z camera vs Iphone 5 camera in which Xperia Z got Stabilization ERROR



Looks like Sony is winning this... :p
 
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randomuser111

Technomancer
I am not suggesting which one to buy, as that's upto you. So I'll just point out a few things about the Xperia Z and why someone should get it over the other two

* Superior Design, Build & Durability

* Water & Dust Resistance, for people with an outdoor lifestyle

* Faster Updates and least intrusive Android skin of all 3. Higher Quality software

* More RAM compared to HTC One, 1.8GB vs 1.5GB

And the most important one ( Not for all) XDA developer support. Let me not say anything but just quote Entropy512, who needs no introduction. Any GS2/3 owner will be well aware of him. He is one of the TOP and most respected developers for Galaxy line of devices. Here's what he says about Sony Xperia T/Z - (he is now developing for XZ)

I've had an Xperia T since late December - it's a great device to work with, although in some aspects it (just like a Nexus) has an aspect of difficulty to it - the original firmware is of such high quality that you've got to be REALLY careful not to accidentally cause a regression.

Yes CM10.1 on the T has had some issues lately, but mostly that's due to failed experiments... Rebasing the kernel onto the Mako kernel proved to not be workable in the long run and switching back is taking longer than hoped. None of that is Sony's fault though, so even though things seem like a behind-schedule mess, the critical difference is: The more I worked with Samsungs the less hope I felt that I'd ever be able to reach completion. With the Sony, it's different - yeah there are some challenging roadblocks, but never such a mountain of broken **** you lose hope. See CM10 on the T - I think that's incredibly well polished at this point.

On Z specifically:

Still on just rooted stock... I'll probably switch to CM this weekend, more out of "I should be doing more work on this device than using it to kick ass at Ingress" than out of any dislike for the stock firmware... Stock on this device is NICE.


Here's what he said about Galaxy S4's OCTA CPU vs Z

It's sad how many sheep are falling for Samsung's misleading "Octa" marketing which (falsely) implies that the device has 8 cores of equal capability.

IT DOES NOT.

It is a quad core device, with four additional low-power cores. More proper marketing would be 4+4 (kind of like Nvidia's 4+1 marketing).

There's also no benefit to having four low-power cores... In any situation where you'd drop to the lowpower cores, you'll also be hotplugging out all of the extra cores. A single low-power core will provide nearly all of the power reduction benefits of a full set of low-power cores. Yes, it'll be easier to handle migration in software - but it's throwing a pile of hardware resources (hardware cost) at a software problem to make up for Samsung's utterly ****ty track record with regards to software integration and quality control. Heck, look at ICS on the I9100 - they couldn't even get basic cpufreq policy limit implementation right with that release!

Samsung's architecture doesn't handle asymmetric core loading well at all. If you have one core maxed out, and want to run some light tasks on a second core - guess what, you have to light up that second core and run it at full tilt. Samsung has a whitepaper that claims this is a good thing, but if you look at their architecture closely (check the cpuidle driver in arch/arm/mach-exynos of their kernels...) you'll notice a nasty flaw - All of the deeper cpuidle states are disabled if more than one core is active. This means that the second core is consuming almost as much power as if it were running at 100% load even if it might only be running at 10% load. Snapdragon can actually reduce the clock/voltage of additional cores that are active but lightly loaded.

Of course, the most important thing is software integration - absolutely awesome hardware means nothing if the software supporting it is ****. Look at the Galaxy Nexus - Thanks to Google and TI doing a great job of integrating the "Project Butter" capabilities of Jellybean, the Galaxy Nexus delivers smoother UI performance with a dual 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 than the GS3 can with quad 1.4 GHz A9s...

That is what you will get with the Galaxy S4 - Awesome hardware paired with utterly crap software, leading to an overall crap experience. With the Xperia Z, you'll get great hardware paired with great software - for an overall great experience.



On HTC and S4

As to HTCs - they're a ***** to work with and HTC is even worse than Samsung at GPL compliance. HTC is also more zealous than any other manufacturer about sending lawyers after people. (Technically the latest round was DxO - but is it a coincidence it primarily affected HTC devices? Probably not.)

And Galaxy S4 - should've been called the Galaxy S3s - *yawn*

Z is awesome.



P.S. The above are the words of a highly respected ELITE XDA developer, not mine !. So if any Samsung fanboy's ego is hurt please go and argue with Entropy512 on XDA and not me. Thanks !! :)


Now coming to the screen of the Xperia Z. The first batch of Xperia Z used panel lottery system like Samsung TVs. 80% have Sharp panels, while the rest have JDC 1 and JDC 2 panel. ALL demo units have the worst quality - JDC 2 panel. So what you see in demo units is not what you'd probably get.

Let me summarize the three screens quick

1. Sharp - 1000:1 + Contrast Ratio, on par with the best screens on the market.

2. JDC 2 - 700:1 Contrast Ratio, This is what GSMArena got. It's the middle quality panel with worse blacks than Xperia S

3. JDC 1 - 450:1 Contrast Ratio. This is the worst panel of all and is found in ALL demo units and some retail units in Europe. I really have no words about this panel. It's a joke. You are 100% likely to see this panel in Demo Z at Croma and other outlets. EXtremely weak blacks and washed out colors with poorer viewing angles than even S/SL


Most of Asia has got the Sharp panel which is as good as Butterfly/One/One X/Xperia TX/Lumia 920 screens. There is very little chance you will NOT get this panel but to be sure

Buy a Z manufactured AFTER February 2013. Only the early batch uses panel lottery. February onwards 100% Sharp panels only are used. You can checkout the ZL screen to get an idea about the Sharp panel on Z. All ZL have Sharp panels.

So best thing to do is buy a fresh stock Z next month, you'll get the high quality Sharp panel.

Also screen calibration app will be provided by Sony in 4.2.2 update coming in 2 weeks. :)


In short, Z screen is NOT inferior to Butterfly/One or any other phone but the fact that ALL demo/review units feature poor quality JDC panels. Most Retail Z in India have Sharp panels which has good black levels and high contrast along with accurate colors. I've seen one myself so I do know what I'm talking about.
 
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AndroidFan

Peak Oil is real!
I am not suggesting which one to buy, as that's upto you. So I'll just point out a few things about the Xperia Z and why someone should get it over the other two

* Superior Design, Build & Durability

* Water & Dust Resistance, for people with an outdoor lifestyle

* Faster Updates and least intrusive Android skin of all 3. Higher Quality software

* More RAM compared to HTC One, 1.8GB vs 1.5GB

And the most important one ( Not for all) XDA developer support. Let me not say anything but just quote Entropy512, who needs no introduction. Any GS2/3 owner will be well aware of him. He is one of the TOP and most respected developers for Galaxy line of devices. Here's what he says about Sony Xperia T/Z - (he is now developing for XZ)

I've had an Xperia T since late December - it's a great device to work with, although in some aspects it (just like a Nexus) has an aspect of difficulty to it - the original firmware is of such high quality that you've got to be REALLY careful not to accidentally cause a regression.

Yes CM10.1 on the T has had some issues lately, but mostly that's due to failed experiments... Rebasing the kernel onto the Mako kernel proved to not be workable in the long run and switching back is taking longer than hoped. None of that is Sony's fault though, so even though things seem like a behind-schedule mess, the critical difference is: The more I worked with Samsungs the less hope I felt that I'd ever be able to reach completion. With the Sony, it's different - yeah there are some challenging roadblocks, but never such a mountain of broken **** you lose hope. See CM10 on the T - I think that's incredibly well polished at this point.

On Z specifically:

Still on just rooted stock... I'll probably switch to CM this weekend, more out of "I should be doing more work on this device than using it to kick ass at Ingress" than out of any dislike for the stock firmware... Stock on this device is NICE.


Here's what he said about Galaxy S4's OCTA CPU vs Z

It's sad how many sheep are falling for Samsung's misleading "Octa" marketing which (falsely) implies that the device has 8 cores of equal capability.

IT DOES NOT.

It is a quad core device, with four additional low-power cores. More proper marketing would be 4+4 (kind of like Nvidia's 4+1 marketing).

There's also no benefit to having four low-power cores... In any situation where you'd drop to the lowpower cores, you'll also be hotplugging out all of the extra cores. A single low-power core will provide nearly all of the power reduction benefits of a full set of low-power cores. Yes, it'll be easier to handle migration in software - but it's throwing a pile of hardware resources (hardware cost) at a software problem to make up for Samsung's utterly ****ty track record with regards to software integration and quality control. Heck, look at ICS on the I9100 - they couldn't even get basic cpufreq policy limit implementation right with that release!

Samsung's architecture doesn't handle asymmetric core loading well at all. If you have one core maxed out, and want to run some light tasks on a second core - guess what, you have to light up that second core and run it at full tilt. Samsung has a whitepaper that claims this is a good thing, but if you look at their architecture closely (check the cpuidle driver in arch/arm/mach-exynos of their kernels...) you'll notice a nasty flaw - All of the deeper cpuidle states are disabled if more than one core is active. This means that the second core is consuming almost as much power as if it were running at 100% load even if it might only be running at 10% load. Snapdragon can actually reduce the clock/voltage of additional cores that are active but lightly loaded.

Of course, the most important thing is software integration - absolutely awesome hardware means nothing if the software supporting it is ****. Look at the Galaxy Nexus - Thanks to Google and TI doing a great job of integrating the "Project Butter" capabilities of Jellybean, the Galaxy Nexus delivers smoother UI performance with a dual 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 than the GS3 can with quad 1.4 GHz A9s...

That is what you will get with the Galaxy S4 - Awesome hardware paired with utterly crap software, leading to an overall crap experience. With the Xperia Z, you'll get great hardware paired with great software - for an overall great experience.



On HTC and S4

As to HTCs - they're a ***** to work with and HTC is even worse than Samsung at GPL compliance. HTC is also more zealous than any other manufacturer about sending lawyers after people. (Technically the latest round was DxO - but is it a coincidence it primarily affected HTC devices? Probably not.)

And Galaxy S4 - should've been called the Galaxy S3s - *yawn*

Z is awesome.



P.S. The above are the words of a highly respected ELITE XDA developer, not mine !. So if any Samsung fanboy's ego is hurt please go and argue with Entropy512 on XDA and not me. Thanks !! :)


Now coming to the screen of the Xperia Z. The first batch of Xperia Z used panel lottery system like Samsung TVs. 80% have Sharp panels, while the rest have JDC 1 and JDC 2 panel. ALL demo units have the worst quality - JDC 2 panel. So what you see in demo units is not what you'd probably get.

Let me summarize the three screens quick

1. Sharp - 1000:1 + Contrast Ratio, on par with the best screens on the market.

2. JDC 2 - 700:1 Contrast Ratio, This is what GSMArena got. It's the middle quality panel with worse blacks than Xperia S

3. JDC 1 - 450:1 Contrast Ratio. This is the worst panel of all and is found in ALL demo units and some retail units in Europe. I really have no words about this panel. It's a joke. You are 100% likely to see this panel in Demo Z at Croma and other outlets. EXtremely weak blacks and washed out colors with poorer viewing angles than even S/SL


Most of Asia has got the Sharp panel which is as good as Butterfly/One/One X/Xperia TX/Lumia 920 screens. There is very little chance you will NOT get this panel but to be sure

Buy a Z manufactured AFTER February 2013. Only the early batch uses panel lottery. February onwards 100% Sharp panels only are used. You can checkout the ZL screen to get an idea about the Sharp panel on Z. All ZL have Sharp panels.

So best thing to do is buy a fresh stock Z next month, you'll get the high quality Sharp panel.

Also screen calibration app will be provided by Sony in 4.2.2 update coming in 2 weeks. :)


In short, Z screen is NOT inferior to Butterfly/One or any other phone but the fact that ALL demo/review units feature poor quality JDC panels. Most Retail Z in India have Sharp panels which has good black levels and high contrast along with accurate colors. I've seen one myself so I do know what I'm talking about.

This was very interesting and informative.

Newer Sony phones are better integrated with Android than other companies which want to pile on a useless list of "features" which no one would use...

Entropy512 is not yet working on Xperia Z ROMs yet because he does not have that phone yet. He is still an elite Samsung Dev.

*i.imgur.com/pXV0qzT.jpg

Hope Sony supports developers with kernel source in time. Pure AOSP is the best Android experience you can get... Sony's UI is no good... Need, want pure Android... not just Nova launcher... but pure Android... or atleast CyanogenMod...
 

randomuser111

Technomancer
Entropy512 does have Xperia Z :)

See his post here

I do have one... I've been keeping quiet about it since it's a C6603 (wrong bands for my country, but seems to be mostly usable at least in my area) from an undisclosed source.

Still on just rooted stock... I'll probably switch to CM this weekend, more out of "I should be doing more work on this device than using it to kick ass at Ingress" than out of any dislike for the stock firmware... Stock on this device is NICE.


Developers list [expected/rumours/sure] - Page 12 - xda-developers
 

ithehappy

Human Spambot
It's unbelievable how some people buy a 700$ device for some dev support!
Some guys in pajama with a cup of coffee cooking some this and that stuffs and making money line anything in the name of donation and the next premium flagship becomes free.
Lol, buying a XZ over Note 2, for some damn support, is plain rubbish, ridiculous and obviously beyond me.
Good Luck :eek:
 
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randomuser111

Technomancer
It's unbelievable how some people buy a 700$ device for some dev support!
Some guys in pajama with a cup of coffee cooking some this and that stuffs and making money line anything in the name of donation and the next premium flagship becomes free.
Lol, buying a XZ over Note 2, for some damn support, is plain rubbish, ridiculous and obviously beyond me.
Good Luck :eek:

Ohhhhhhhhh :)

In that case everyone should just buy Iphone.

And LOL why would any sane person pick Note 2 over XZ is beyond me. :D

Don't say S-Pen and Multi Window blah blah. Less than 1% of owners find that useful. All such stuff look good on ads, not real life. Most smartphone buyers don't even play games or do anything more than calling/whatsapp/take pics. Forget "creative use with S-Pen"
 

quagmire

Allllright !
At this point IMO people looking for dev support should buy none of the above mentioned.. One and S4 are clearly out (from what I infer from randomuser111's comments in the other thread), and XZ has the weakest processor of the three and may be outdated by the end of the year..

The next Nexus is the answer..

If rumours are to be believed the next Nexus (built by LG) will have the following specs..

*5.2-inch (1920 x 1080) OLED display
*2.3GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor
*3GB of RAM
*3300 mAh battery
*2.1 megapixel front-facing camera with 1080p recording at 30fps and a 16 megapixel rear-facing camera with 4k recording at 30fps or 1080p recording at 60fps
-Source
 

aroraanant

Explorer
@randonuser- I agree with you on almost all the points, but not on this
Don't say S-Pen and Multi Window blah blah. Less than 1% of owners find that useful. All such stuff look good on ads, not real life. Most smartphone buyers don't even play games or do anything more than calling/whatsapp/take pics. Forget "creative use with S-Pen"
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
^
Me too agree with aroraanant
If you have never used multiwindow, you will never know how awesome it is..
It is basically the closest thing that makes a smartphone OS function like a desktop OS (if u know what i mean)
 

bubusam13

Human
Xperia Z. When spending so much, looks too matter. And S4 but slightly more powerful than Xperia Z does not mean Z can't handle all android apps. Xperia Z will run all apps butter smooth.

And is S4 waterproof ?
 
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