led_shankar said:
And personal atttacks refers to crap like this:
mediator said:
@uttorasen...Oh u qouting now...I'm so excited!!
Oh man u quoted a lot of my lines..hahaha. Nice!
Neways I was talking to @uttorasen....why are u so concerned?? Even if ur concerned...then go ahead read the whole debate of "Is America bettr than India"....U'll know what I mean!
hmmm....@led_shankar....Have you ever joined or participated in real debates?? I think you never had.......coz talking like this is never considered a personal remark. Debate is like a chess game...where remarks like this are necessary so that the opponent dont post hte same reply more than once, make baseless statements.
Ok if someone says baselessly that u r an idiot,u are good for nothing and talks whatever dirty about you that comes in his mind in front of everybody everyday........just like that. What will be ur reply to him?? Will u reply him nicely.....and beg him not to do that??
Go ahead read that "Is america better than India" Debate. I forgived him not quoting there, making baseless statements etc. But now if a person annoys u repeatedly what will u do?? Well I dunno about u but I like to annoy him in return tooo! Anyways these are not personal remarks!
Read some book on debates....u'll find more nasty techniques than this. And my posts liek this are too ethical to be called crap.
U have no idea what crap,persoanl remarks can be like!! Please read the previous debate too!
led_shankar said:
That is why i am 'quitting' this debate. I have no respect for people who do not know how to argue in a dignified manner.
Now tell me bro. Did I ever make any personal remark on u?? Coz I never saw u making any baseless,stupid statements like @uttora babu! Read all his posts and tell me if they make any sense. Read the whole debate of national language from the start and u'll know what I mean!
@Yamaraj.....Well said bro! 50 points to you. Seriously English supporters Have lost their respective minds to name some foreign language as national language. They have forgotten the definition of word "NATIONAL" (meaning orginating in India) and pride for their culture too!
vyasram said:
the thing is we dont know Hindi and most here consider learning it a waste of time. so if someone gives commentary in hindi , it looks as if they are doing it just to irritate us especially with a live feed of english commentary. the thing that matters is the spread of a language. english is the most spreaded language , get it
So what will you do if u go to Sikkim,bihar,nepal,China,Japan etc etc??? Most of them dont know how to speak English or Tamil. As I said its the fault of commentator if he speaks in Hindi. I'm not saying to learn Hindi. But atleast name some Indian language to be called as national language according to its definition!!
@mail2and....50 points to u toooo! Anyways....wow that was cool....u blew the fuse of English supporters in one go by enlightening them of necessary facts and reality!
vyasram said:
the words are speak any language you want provided that all the listeners/conversationists who are listening to it know it
This post of urs seem to me very much like the posts of @uttorasen cause of some English clause errors. Dont mind it...but are u alias of @uttorasen ?? Just asking!
vyasram said:
forcing someone to practise a lang simply bcoz itz their national language is unfair. Listen this DD guyz
Who is forcing man?? Are u forced to speak Indian National Anthem?? Lalu was sitting on one of the national holiday functions when National anthem was being sung!!
If u dont like hindi then switch channel watch some other channel than DD. That simple!
What I wanna point is the Indian Language that is spoken the most is Hindi that orginated from Sankrit the mother of all Indian Langauges and may be the world. I can give u the facts...but then it wud be dumb if u ask for such facts as they well understood. Neways the poll of this debate gives u the facts itself!!
busyanuj said:
there's no such word as "spreaded" in English.
Well said. But bro u'll find plenty of such words from all English supporters here => vyasram,uttorasen. Read the whole debate. You'll find 1000s of such words from the main supporter @uttora who started this thread.
Thats ugly actually that they have so many grammer,clauses,vocablury errors in English and still try to make foreigners happy!
@busyanuj....50 points too u tooo!
busyanuj said:
You haven't been to Punjab and/or you don't know. Hindi is still alive and widely spoken in Punjab
I've been empasising on this but they fail to understand such simple fact and then later when I try to correct them they say I made fun of them !
busyanuj said:
As for English, it's here to stay. But please don't murder it.
Exactly it can become the second most widespread language. Also the second language the Indians speak......but not National Language even if it becomes more widespread than Hindi in future....coz it has not orginated in India and thats why not Indian and thats why cant become National Language!!
yamaraj said:
Remember, an Englishman dies for every sentence of this calibre. Keep it up!
Forget it bro...they dont understand such things as self-esteem or calibre or whateva related to ones morale!
mayhem said:
I vote for English
Hindi is spoken in North-Western India bcoz it has similarities with local languages.
Still? Did u read all the posts of this debate?? U came rocking like @uttorasen...made ur statement...Do u know how many people now will laugh at u too as they laughed at @uttora??
I guess U aint read from the start.....thats why u still have a chance to change ur post......Go and read from the start, quote each line from post of every one who oppose English, tell ur reasons for opposing and then say that u like English still!
But if dont change ur opinion then I challenge u to continue here,fight like a man for ur word/statement......and dont chicken out like @uttorasen(the creator of this thread)! Wating for ur next post anxiously....
mayhem said:
English is more Universal Language than Hindi
So did China,Russia,France,Germany etc etc and all changed to English?? Why do u bow to foreigners so much?? Do u still wanna confirm to them that u are their slave and will change ur Nations pride for them??
The world who now sees to India for some enlightening/steps first before taking their own step....will laugh at India because of Indians like u!
mayhem said:
It depends on the common man from where he is.
What does this mean?? Explain! Will u change India's prime minister to Bush for same illogical,irrational reasoning??
mayhem said:
A national language is a language (or language variant, i.e. dialect) which uniquely represents the national identity of a nation or country. A national language is used for political and legal discourse and so designated by a country's government.
Wow u searched the wiki?? I told the definition here itself. See man this is against forum rules to go on making ur statemnts in a debate without looking at others. If u came here new in this debate then u shud have read others posts first. Now shud i put all my previous replies specially for u?? Then u'll chicken out as well like @uttorasen!
Neways the deinitions from wiki that u posted themseff say a BIG no to English. Think about it!
Thats why I give u a chance to change ur opinion...change it to some other Indian language or whateva. I wont mind that....But if u still voice support for English then u'll have to deal with me for 4-5 pages more!! Believe me!!
prakash_kerala said:
about hindi guys,In my Lang there is a proverb "Pottakinattile Tavala" ie,small frog in a small pool.u ppl r like that.you thought that india is full of Hindi,thats wrong wrong and wrong. we need english only the poll is manipualted!how?'coz hindiwalle will only vote Hindi!.
Thats right hindi waala will vote hindi and tamil to tamil etc etc.So? How will it manipulate the poll? It shows how many pople all across the India vote for Hindi and know and speak hindi and have great respect for hindi. Well currently 32 % vote fro English. So shud I say like u that even 32 % is a great figure because of some manipulation?? That was indeed a very childish reply!
See man I have great respect for u....coz u have helped me a number of times in Open Source and QnA section. But dont make frustrated remarks for Hindi supporters or English opposers. If people from South are so much speaking English then why are not they here in a froum written in English?? And even if they are then why is the percentage of English still half of Hindi??
If u also make baseless comments like @uttorasen...then God help u. U know what I mean. I'll be the biggest opponent u'll face here for making baseless, frustrated remarks.
prakash_kerala said:
u r thinging imperialistic of ur Hindusthaan
Isnt it ur Hindustan??
prakash_kerala said:
even if north try its best,Tamilnaad,kerala and Andhra cannot accept hindi supremacy.got it bacche log?
u say u gone thru all the posts and facts and still dont think Hindi is most widely spoken?? nad how can u tell anyways that how many south Indians or North Indians are here?? Do u personally know each of them?? Didnt the pol of this topic enlighten u??
Hmmm....bacche log?? Dont mind it....but if I'll begin to speak on this then u too will chicken out like @uttorasen! I guess u were pretty excited for some reason when u made this post. I advice u not to do that in future and make the posts in a calm manner.....coz others can find flaw in your own debates and the make fun of you.
I saw u first time make such comments like "bacche log" in such a hot discussion. So I'm not speaking anything against you right now. But humbly request u to please dont do that in future.
This is getting interesting more farangi supporters are here to make foreigners happy so much that they will sell their ego,Inidan pride too for that! Common I'm ready to fight all of u in this Fight Club....but first u have to read all the posts here from the start....and have to quote each single line of all my replies here from the start.
Do that and I'll see u as a man who is strong enough to be called opponent to fight with!!
, if you can.
we need english only the poll is manipualted!how?'coz hindiwalle will only vote Hindi!.