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"Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event
The way I see it, I used to dream about owning a WP6 phone when I was a child since, those were like "PC's". Tremendous potential.
But when I actually became capable of buying my own smartphone I had to go with Android, since WP6 was obsolete, and WP7 was radically different and/or limited.
In short, Android achieved what WP could have achieved a long time ago.
I don't adore Nokia because of their selection with 'only' WP and to completely abandon Meego, still it would be sad to see it dissolve like that.
But when I actually became capable of buying my own smartphone I had to go with Android, since WP6 was obsolete, and WP7 was radically different and/or limited.
In short, Android achieved what WP could have achieved a long time ago.
I don't adore Nokia because of their selection with 'only' WP and to completely abandon Meego, still it would be sad to see it dissolve like that.
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ajaymailed
In the zone
Is there any credible info over why Nokia didn't adopt Android and chose Microsoft instead after Symbians failure. ofcourse we can always speculate reasons, i tried to google it but couldn't come up with anything good. Its said to be El Ops decision, but how did they chose Microsoft. They could have adopted both Win & Android like Sammy or HTC.
Sammy & HTC certainly did that.
if they had strategy of releasing phones with different platforms (Meego, Symbian, Android etc) and hold on to the one which clicked on the market, they may be in a better situation today.
Sammy & HTC certainly did that.
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event
they'll have to go the android route. at least in the lower section. how long will they milk the ancient S40. Nokia offers only a single sub 10k smartphone in the form of Nokia 500 which is a superb flop whereas Samsung (ignoring Sony, HTC, moto, etc) offers half a dozen smartphone already. and soon that number will double with addition of more mobiles or pricecut on existing ones. Nokia is currently labeling almost all S40 mobiles as smartphone when it is a feature phone platform and can't multitask. And making it multitask means rewriting a whole lot of the OS again (at least the kernel) and as now Accenture handles Symbian R&D it is extremely unlikely they'll waste resource on a dead platform.
WP8 will bring in a lot of cash but it won't stop Nokia's downfall unless they find a way to fix the lower section. Moreover these new mobiles will surely cost a lot. I am expecting a 30k+ pricetag on both and most will simply point to Samsung or HTC mobiles with quad cores. Even when WP with a single core performs (smoothness) is better than a Android with dual core.
they'll have to go the android route. at least in the lower section. how long will they milk the ancient S40. Nokia offers only a single sub 10k smartphone in the form of Nokia 500 which is a superb flop whereas Samsung (ignoring Sony, HTC, moto, etc) offers half a dozen smartphone already. and soon that number will double with addition of more mobiles or pricecut on existing ones. Nokia is currently labeling almost all S40 mobiles as smartphone when it is a feature phone platform and can't multitask. And making it multitask means rewriting a whole lot of the OS again (at least the kernel) and as now Accenture handles Symbian R&D it is extremely unlikely they'll waste resource on a dead platform.
WP8 will bring in a lot of cash but it won't stop Nokia's downfall unless they find a way to fix the lower section. Moreover these new mobiles will surely cost a lot. I am expecting a 30k+ pricetag on both and most will simply point to Samsung or HTC mobiles with quad cores. Even when WP with a single core performs (smoothness) is better than a Android with dual core.
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
@ Sam
I agree with that s40 point of yours. Indeed makes a hell lot of sense. Nokia has got it wrong in the sub 10k market like you pointed and s40 is outmatched as well
as outnumbered by android here. Nokia has to either build a significant platform from scratch or embrace something significant. Maybe resurrect meego for sub 10k phones.
Above that, should be wp8 as seen in current lumia series. s40 has to go for nokia having a chance to rise again.
They've got a good platform for top end. Should have something like that in the lower end of the spectrum.
p.s (Those asha smartphones are nothing but crap for their asking price. Resistive touchscreen in this age?? Come on nokia....)
I agree with that s40 point of yours. Indeed makes a hell lot of sense. Nokia has got it wrong in the sub 10k market like you pointed and s40 is outmatched as well
as outnumbered by android here. Nokia has to either build a significant platform from scratch or embrace something significant. Maybe resurrect meego for sub 10k phones.
Above that, should be wp8 as seen in current lumia series. s40 has to go for nokia having a chance to rise again.
They've got a good platform for top end. Should have something like that in the lower end of the spectrum.
p.s (Those asha smartphones are nothing but crap for their asking price. Resistive touchscreen in this age?? Come on nokia....)
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ajaymailed
In the zone
I ve wondered the same thing, when Android was devouring everyone else, Nokia had C Series resistive touchscreen models in mid to low price range. They continued to release resistive touch screens in Sub-10K Range.
Raghaw Rai
Right off the assembly line
Nokia will rock with windows phone 8
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ajaymailed
In the zone
no not so early, Nokia will be up for sale when Lumia WP8 also fails and company is out of cash.
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ajaymailed
In the zone
could it have been possible that MS influenced Elop to go for Windows Phone. I dunno how does it work, there should be board of directors and major shareholders who should agree with the decision, but how did Nokia board made such decision. When El-Op joined Nokia, Android was rising fast from almost nothing to capturing quarter of global smartphone market, he didn't have much time for sure.Elop would b very happy with this situation..
Seems soon Ms gonna buy nokia.
P.s - This F*c*ing ex Ms ceo elop almost ruined nokia
gameranand
Living to Play
Actually Nokia has nothing special in any segment as for now and they need to fix this soon if they want to survive.
Hrishi
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^Don't forget the Nokia N8 and the Nokia 808 , so called 41MP camera phone (their marketing gimmick).
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I really don't understand why Nokia is not going for AnDroids.Is it becuase of the TIe-up with Mircosoft ?
People love Nokia , but unfortunately they love AnDroids more than Nokia.
I just wished Droids had a decent battery life.
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I really don't understand why Nokia is not going for AnDroids.Is it becuase of the TIe-up with Mircosoft ?
People love Nokia , but unfortunately they love AnDroids more than Nokia.
I just wished Droids had a decent battery life.
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event
even noobs will research when the asking price is 30k+
even noobs will research when the asking price is 30k+