"Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

mastervk

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currently there are very few useful apps in win 8 app store...MS need to improve the number of apps to attract more users..

this is more important for Indian users as Indian companies are much slower in releasing their apps..even android don't have all apps which should be there...
 
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ajaymailed

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currently there are very few useful apps in win 8 app store...MS need to improve the number of apps to attract more users..
this is more important for Indian users as Indian companies are much slower in releasing their apps..even android don't have all apps which should be there...
They do have total of 1 Lac apps, but it needs to compete from both iOS & Android while attracting more developers. The small user base is not helping either. Android took the world by storm, devoured every Single OS except for iOS. They are simply getting crushed in the competition. They need aggressive marketing and phones priced competitively with range of models.
 

NoasArcAngel

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Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

They do have total of 1 Lac apps, but it needs to compete from both iOS & Android while attracting more developers. The small user base is not helping either. Android took the world by storm, devoured every Single OS except for iOS. They are simply getting crushed in the competition. They need aggressive marketing and phones priced competitively with range of models.

Yes but the problem is that the wp8 requires a decent amount of processing power to run. And nokia is not OEM like samsung as a result the amount of money they end up paying just for the hardware is pretty high then add on royalties to ms and all that.

Its like Nokia developed "x" phone for 100USD.

What this means is that the total cost of the hardware in the phone = 90$
And additional money is gone into the design of the phone = 10$

Another factor to take into consideration is that how nokia pays royalty to microsoft for each phone sold. So unless Nokia will be able to make a big splash into the scene, iOs and Android will rule the roost.

Now depending on the number of phones nokia manages to sell, the cost of production of hardware will go down.

if nokia makes 100,000 pieces then suppose the phone costs 80$ and for 200,000 it costs 75$. So as the numbers rake up and nokia is able to maintain the same given price point then nokia will be able to make profit.

Another reason why apple always makes money is that they develop a phone say cost = 100$, order 1 million pieces @ 65$ and retail at 400$, apples bank account is run basically on the fact of large volumes, because they have been able to develop a os and a basic benchmark - iphone

I think that unless microsoft is really able to turn things around with something revolutionary on their apps / user experience then nokia is going down the drain and android / iOS is the way to go .
 

pratyush997

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Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

Nokia Faqed up....42k for lumia 920 and for 31k Lumia 820
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Nokia Faqed up....42k for lumia 920 and for 31k Lumia 820
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pratyush997

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^^Don't think so...bro..its 42k to be precise n they are cheaper in foreign compared to india..so it ain't gonna be less than 39k or 38k in any faqin case....
 
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ajaymailed

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Nokia share price slumps as Lumia 920 fails to convince investors
“People were looking for something that would dazzle. Most investors will view it as evolutionary, not revolutionary. Nokia has made some good progress, but investors were looking for quantum leaps. We didn’t get that.”

Windows Phone 8, however, might have several factors in its favor. It is similar to the Windows 8 desktop and tablet software to be released October 26, making it easier for developers to write apps for both. Microsoft hopes this will boost the platform’s popularity.

“The big difference versus Android is that there is a big Microsoft developer base that will catch on quicker, once there is a sufficient customer base,” said Magnus Jern, founder and chief executive of Barcelona-based Golden Gekko, which has created Windows Phone apps for Heathrow Airport and for Yellow Pages in many European countries.
 
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mastervk

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^^ Please list useful apps you require..

i would like apps for Indian railway ,apps providing city specific information (local metro,local bus etc), banking apps(icic ,citi ,hdfc etc) ,website specific apps (flipkart,cinema,etc),news apps(TOI etc) (there is a TOI app in win8 store)..
then utility apps(like zip code,std code information)..

i have not checked mobile app store so below apps might already be available :
for mobile there should be apps like Endomondo ,simple task manager (like any.do),various image processing/manipulation apps etc
 

nikufellow

In the zone
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

i would like apps for Indian railway ,apps providing city specific information (local metro,local bus etc), banking apps(icic ,citi ,hdfc etc) ,website specific apps (flipkart,cinema,etc),news apps(TOI etc) (there is a TOI app in win8 store)..
then utility apps(like zip code,std code information)..

i have not checked mobile app store so below apps might already be available :
for mobile there should be apps like Endomondo ,simple task manager (like any.do),various image processing/manipulation apps etc

MS cant do anything about indian railways app ! If WP eats majority of indian smartphone share in coming future maybe devs will take interest in making such apps same goes for flipkart app and banking apps. For city specific information (local metro,local bus etc) i am pretty sure new nokia drive (nokia transport to be exact) will provide such information (atleast in select cities )!

The amazing science behind the Nokia Lumia 920 camera - the second phase of PureView - GSMArena Blog
Dont know why they decided to fake those initial samples photos if indeed this much efforts has been put into the camera of 920
 

mastervk

In the zone
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

MS cant do anything about indian railways app ! If WP eats majority of indian smartphone share in coming future maybe devs will take interest in making such apps same goes for flipkart app and banking apps. For city specific information (local metro,local bus etc) i am pretty sure new nokia drive (nokia transport to be exact) will provide such information (atleast in select cities )!

yes MS can't do anything about these apps..only when windows phone becomes popular these apps will come and port of popular apps in ios/android will be developed for win store..but win mobile need to be really good for people to move from iphone/android as early adopters might not have these apps (at least US specific apps should be there as US customers matters most for mobile companies)
 

nikufellow

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Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

yes MS can't do anything about these apps..only when windows phone becomes popular these apps will come and port of popular apps in ios/android will be developed for win store..but win mobile need to be really good for people to move from iphone/android as early adopters might not have these apps (at least US specific apps should be there as US customers matters most for mobile companies)

Well even mango aka WP7.5 was a good enough OS but it lacked many things wp8 sure seems to rectify many of the WP7 shortcomings lets wait and see how things work out !
Still i guess an average indian buyer would be interested only in UI and to some extent the 'NOKIA' branding should help not the exact app count !
 

mastervk

In the zone
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

yes average Indian might not need all these apps and Nokia and blackberry are still good brand name for Indian customers but then average Indian would like low cost mobiles too and a win8 mobile in 10k-15k or even sub 10k range will definitely be a hit in India..(though i doubt that there can be sub 10k win8 nokia mobile)..
for those who are already using iphone/high end android cost of moving from one app system to another will also be quite high...
 

nikufellow

In the zone
Re: "Things are about to change" Nokias decisive do or die moment on Sept 5th event

yes average Indian might not need all these apps and Nokia and blackberry are still good brand name for Indian customers but then average Indian would like low cost mobiles too and a win8 mobile in 10k-15k or even sub 10k range will definitely be a hit in India..(though i doubt that there can be sub 10k win8 nokia mobile)..
for those who are already using iphone/high end android cost of moving from one app system to another will also be quite high...
920 and 820 will surely be out of reach for many but budget minded wp's might come in future i hope its not too late though !
 

ssk_the_gr8

Make Way the LORD is Here
i would like apps for Indian railway ,apps providing city specific information (local metro,local bus etc), banking apps(icic ,citi ,hdfc etc) ,website specific apps (flipkart,cinema,etc),news apps(TOI etc) (there is a TOI app in win8 store)..
then utility apps(like zip code,std code information)..

i have not checked mobile app store so below apps might already be available :
for mobile there should be apps like Endomondo ,simple task manager (like any.do),various image processing/manipulation apps etc
All WP7 apps work in WP8
so indian rail app, metro apps, some banking apps(mobile website for each bank is available anyway) , flipkart, bookmyshow, TOI, ET , and all utility apps are their
other apps you mentioned are also available for WP7

And if you're talking about W8 then all the apps will definitely come to it because all laptops + tablet pc sold from oct 26 will be W8 so it will be a big market for app developers and they will definetly port their apps to W8
 

Hrishi

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WP8 and W8 are on a centric platform and share the shame kernel (Windows NT). SO porting apps will be easy. It will be Droid killer , once it gets popular and people understand the benefits.
 

nikufellow

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WP8 and W8 are on a centric platform and share the shame kernel (Windows NT). SO porting apps will be easy. It will be Droid killer , once it gets popular and people understand the benefits.

no way its gonna be a droid killer ! - LOL open source vs closed ecosystem ! WP can never beat droid in terms of sheer customization possible it provides but maybe it'll kill RIM !
 
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