So WHAT is the cause of such gruesome rapes?

[Zangetsu]

Anyone on this forum claiming to "not watch porn" is lying, and we all know it.

who who...

Many of you drink as well I assume, (I don't for the record, but all my friends do), did you ever find yourself thinking about raping someone when high or drunk? Yes you may drink alcohol and find yourself thinking you are suddenly Gods gift to women, and flirting with them or acting macho, and making a fool of yourself, but if you think you might ever drag a girl / woman into a dark spot and rape when under the influence please seek psychiatric help immediately.

Rapists typically do not even see a woman as a woman....

Good point
that means power is making us blind (we don't think in a civilized way)
and really this is loosing its real value
"With great power comes great responsibility"
~By spiderman

Also rape is problem in india only, but is prelevent in all most all of the countries...

the mindset of rapist in any country is almost same/similar

 

[theterminator]

"With great power comes great responsibility"
~By spiderman

Hell no, its Parker's late uncle.

 

[Anorion]

Getting raped by unknown persons is only 2% of the problem

In 98% rape cases, accused known to victims: NCRB report

 

[Raaabo]

Getting raped by unknown persons is only 2% of the problem

In 98% rape cases, accused known to victims: NCRB report

Same for murder, usually the victims and criminals know each other. Still doesn't change the reason for why it happens, or how they think. Yes they may pick easy targets they know of, or maybe cases of rape by strangers are reported less. Numbers are only good when you have faith in their veracity, and none of us has that in India.

In fact, even for a minute if you assume that the majority of cases are done by known people, regardless of the actual percentage, this again shows the mindset of the average Indian man, and how shameful it is that he looks at women as mere playthings or subservient weaklings. Very sad, and we need to give women more power to change this, but will that ever happen? Our culture forbids it, and we insist on clinging to it like a safety blanket. Unfortunately, the blanket's doused in kerosene, and the nation's on fire - cling away and burn with everyone else!

 

[Zangetsu]

Revenge
Rapist burnt to death by victim in MP - The Times of India

 

[Raaabo]

When you don't see the law giving you justice, this is what you are left with. If I was the victim's brother and saw the man walking about freely, I cannot truthfully say I wouldn't have done the same.

 

[Bhargav Simha]

And I would have done exactly the same or something even worse...

We need strong laws against rape... something like the witchunt of the mideval era should be started again and the rapists should be burnt alive on stakes..
The society should stand behind the victim and punish the culprits. A single woman may appear weak in the eyes of the rapist.. but when he knows the rest of the society stands behind her he will know his place..
In cases like the delhi rape case... the culprits should be hanged and not only that.. the lawyers and supporters of such as****** should be alienated from the society..
It may should harsh, conisiderng the equality of justice BS.. But when they have accepted, that they commited the crime, they should have been shot dead or worse(making them feel the excruciating pain the victim went through...)
Also Rape scenes should be banned from the movies or television.. our film industry has the habit of using rape scenes like item songs. They elaborate the rape scenes too much, compare them with the first night scenes (jut light off) and you will understand the sadistic views of the film makers and the audience who encourage them..and the rapists get ideas from seeing the scenes.

 

[bssunilreddy]

And I would have done exactly the same or something even worse...

We need strong laws against rape... something like the witchunt of the mideval era should be started again and the rapists should be burnt alive on stakes..
The society should stand behind the victim and punish the culprits. A single woman may appear weak in the eyes of the rapist.. but when he knows the rest of the society stands behind her he will know his place..
In cases like the delhi rape case... the culprits should be hanged and not only that.. the lawyers and supporters of such as****** should be alienated from the society..
It may should harsh, conisiderng the equality of justice BS.. But when they have accepted, that they commited the crime, they should have been shot dead or worse(making them feel the excruciating pain the victim went through...)
Also Rape scenes should be banned from the movies or television.. our film industry has the habit of using rape scenes like item songs. They elaborate the rape scenes too much, compare them with the first night scenes (jut light off) and you will understand the sadistic views of the film makers and the audience who encourage them..and the rapists get ideas from seeing the scenes.

Medieval Era justice should be implemented but not their customs man... Its like if a certain woman's horoscope says that her husband will die if she ever marries then she will first be married to a tree or an animal so that her real human husband does not die if she marries him. I am talking about such stupid customs and superstitions but medieval era legal practices used to be harsh so that people used to think twice before committing such gruesome crimes. Even justice is delayed now....

 

[Chetan1991]

@Raaabo Unique insight. Never could have imagined rape's an expression of dominance. How is overpowering a physically weaker human make them feel more manly? It's like they don't have a concept of honor. I was assuming every man in functional family is taught during childhood hitting anyone weaker than him and unarmed is wrong. It seems solipsism is strong in this one.

Rapists typically do not even see a woman as a woman, she's just a toy to be used and discarded, and no better than an animal.

That's something I can't bring myself to imagine, even upon trying very hard. If this is true then rapists are emotionally stunted narcissists who cannot see beyond their own desires and needs.

We are also taught that power is everything. The rich display power, they can get the poor into trouble with their contacts.

Agreed. Status flaunting is a big problem in our country. It is sad to see impatience, arrogance and uncivilized behavior in majority of citizens of a country where ancient texts have been teaching against such vices since millennia.

 

[Raaabo]

@Chetan we cannot imagine it or understand it because we could never think that way, but psychologists around the world speaking to rapists and murderers have this as one of the possible explanations. How else can you explain it? What must go through the minds of such people when their victim is screaming and crying for help and mercy, and then to still go through with it. To beat an emotionally distraught human, to force something like that, and then enjoy it to the point of orgasm... How can it be anything else but just a depraved animal instinct. Worse than animals, because predators only kill for food, and only toy with food to train their young to hunt, but never to just inflict pain for no reason except selfishness.

 

[Zangetsu]

How can it be anything else but just a depraved animal instinct. Worse than animals, because predators only kill for food, and only toy with food to train their young to hunt, but never to just inflict pain for no reason except selfishness.

Man is the most dangerous among all animals

 

[Desmond]

I thought that India was notorious for rapes. After reading this, I stand corrected.

The Ghost Rapes of Bolivia | VICE United States

Read the whole article.

 

[Zangetsu]

I thought that India was notorious for rapes.

No No..its only we indian are discussing this topic in India otherwise its a universal problem in various other countries

 

[Desmond]

No No..its only we indian are discussing this topic in India otherwise its a universal problem in various other countries

But look at the method they are using. Its a new level of perversion.

 

[Desmond]

A very good example of rapes caused due to no fear of the law or having control of the law.

I'm Daisy Coleman, The Teenager At The Center Of The Maryville Rape Media Storm, And This Is What Really Happened | xoJane

 

[Anorion]

Myth: Do not go out alone at any time. Women are most likely to be raped outside, in dark alleyways late at night. This is the best way for a woman to protect herself.

Fact The suggestion of avoiding walking alone, especially at night is a common suggestion to avoiding sexual assault. However, only 9% of rapes are committed by 'strangers'. Women are raped in their homes and in their work places where they are less likely to be believed and even less likely to report. Around 90% of rapes are committed by known men. (thats for uk, in india this is 98%)


Myth: Women who are sexually assaulted 'ask for it' by the way they dress or act, rape only happens to young women.

Fact: Many women are led to believe that if they are not part of a certain category of women then they are 'safe' from being raped. Women and girls of all ages, classes, culture, ability, sexuality, race and faith are raped. Attractiveness has little significance. Reports show that there is a great diversity in the way targeted women act or dress. Rapists choose women based on their vulnerability not their physical appearance.


Myth The women was drunk / took drugs / had a bad reputation / was hitch hiking / wore tight clothes / seduced him / probably got what she was asking for.

Fact If a person is unconscious or their judgement is impaired by alcohol or drugs, legally they are unable to give consent. Having non-consensual sex with a person who is intoxicated is sexual assault.

Rapists use a variety of excuses to attempt to discredit the women they rape and to justify their crime. No woman asks or deserves to be rape or sexually assaulted. Often a rape case is defined more by the woman's character than by what has happened to her. Newspapers and mass media often refer to women in the roles that they have within society - 'young mother', 'grandmother', 'doctor's wife' etc. If the woman's role or social position is not seen as socially acceptable, she is often held responsible not the rapist. For example, the original 'Jack the Ripper' and Sutcliffe in the late 70's and 80's were glorified by the press. (Jack the ripper has his books, museum, cocktails, computer games and even tourist walks in London named after him where you can visit the places women were murdered!)

More here > Common misconceptions about rape

 

[rhitwick]

Megan's Law - Facts about Sex Offenders

Let us see how much we know-and see how much of what we think has been based on the myths we have all heard about sexual assault and sex offenders. Take 5 minutes to complete the True or False Quiz:

Most men who commit sexual offenses do not know their victim.
False. 90% of child victims know their offender, with almost half of the offenders being a family member. Of sexual assaults against people age 12 and up, approximately 80% of the victims know the offender.

Most sexual assaults are committed by someone of the same race as the victim.
True. Most sexual assaults are committed by someone of the same race as the victim. An exception to this is that people who commit sexual assault against Native Americans are usually not Native American (American Indians and Crime, 1999).

Most child sexual abusers use physical force or threat to gain compliance from their victims.
False. In the majority of cases, abusers gain access to their victims through deception and enticement, seldom using force. Abuse typically occurs within a long-term, ongoing relationship between the offender and victim and escalates over time.

Most child sexual abusers find their victims by frequenting such places as schoolyards and playgrounds.
False. Most child sexual abusers offend against children whom they know and with whom they have established a relationship. Many sexual assaults of adult women are considered "confidence rapes," in that the offender knows the victim and has used that familiarity to gain access to her.

Only men commit sexual assault.
False. While most sex offenders are male, sometimes sex offenses are committed by female offenders.

Child sexual abusers are only attracted to children and are not capable of appropriate sexual relationships.
False. While there is a small subset of child sexual abusers who are exclusively attracted to children, the majority of the individuals who sexually abuse children are (or have previously been) attracted to adults.

Victims of sexual assault are harmed only when offenders use force.
False. More than any physical injuries the victim sustains, the violation of trust that accompanies most sexual assaults has been shown to dramatically increase the level of trauma the victim suffers. Emotional and psychological injuries cause harm that can last much longer than physical wounds.

If a child does not tell anyone about the abuse, it is because he or she must have consented to it.
False. Children often do not tell for a variety of reasons including the offender's threats to hurt or kill someone the victim loves, as well as shame, embarrassment, wanting to protect the offender, feelings for the offender, fear of being held responsible or being punished, fear of being disbelieved, and fear of losing the offender who may be very important to the child or the child's family.

It is common for both child and adult victims of sexual assault to wait some time before telling someone about the abuse.
True. It is common for victims of sexual assault to wait some time before telling someone. When the person was assaulted as a child, he or she may wait years or decades. The reasons for this are numerous: victims may want to deny the fact that someone they trusted could do this to them; they may want to just put it behind them; they may believe the myth that they caused the assault by their behavior; or they may fear how other people will react to the truth.

And this,

Power Rapists – Goal to Humiliate
Power Reassurance (a.k.a. “gentleman rapist,” opportunity rapist, compensatory)

>Motivation

§ Insecure

§ To possess, not harm

§ Feels inadequacy with women – much self-doubt

§ Restore self-confidence

§ Confirmation of manhood – ensure she enjoyed it

§ Often done in conjunction with another crime

>The Attack

§ Method of Approach

· Blitz

· Peeping Tom’s (to pre-select victim)

§ Method of Attack

· Mainly verbal

· Threat of weapon, but often without having one, and any use of weapon will be one of opportunity

· 7-15 day cycle (biological clock)

>Behavior

§ Verbal

· Often socially awkward

· Reassures victim’s safety

· Will often attempt to instigate the victim to talk dirty to him, but he will rarely speak obscenely

· Complimentary

· Apologetic/expression of guilt

o “I won’t hurt you, I just want sex”

o “I want you to enjoy this, I’m sorry, I want anal sex, grab the lubricant because I don’t want to hurt you too much”

o “I’m sorry I don’t know why but I had to do this, tell me if I hurt you but do as I say because if you don’t it might hurt”

o “If you cooperate I will be your boyfriend, you are beautiful”

§ Sexual

· Attempts foreplay

· Involves victim in sexual activity

· Generally does not engage in alternate sexual practices, and if does, apologize to victim

· Often asks the victim to undress herself, like in a relationship

· Low aggression exhibited

· Unselfish

§ Physical

· Does not cause unnecessary harm

· Relies on threat of weapon for compliance

§ Modus Operandi (MO)

· Non-lethal

· Unorganized

· Selects victim in advance

· Victim in close proximity of rapist

· Attack for short period of time; longer with more compliance

§ Signature

· Contacts victim post attack

· Records attack

· Takes personal items from victim

· Often believes the experience was pleasurable for the victim

§ Personal Information

· Average education level is 10th grade

· Most often single and living with one or both parents

· Few friends and no sex partner

· Aggressive and possibly seductive mother

· Menial occupation; steady worker

· May be a transvestite, voyeuristic, exhibitionist, fetishist

· Interested in pornography

· Often unathletic and socially awkward

>Methods of Avoidance

§ Will tend to terminate the rape if victim resists

§ Most likely of all rapists to be dissuaded if scream, cry, plead, or fight

§ Could be dealing with power assertive rapist starting off with softer approach – do not want to upset that rapist type

§ Start off with nonviolent tactics – crying, pleading, praying aloud – if he becomes verbally abusive, you do not have a power reassurance rapist

§ If you can attack his conscience, or his weak point, the better luck for avoiding the rape

§ Do not attempt to “talk him out of it” – he will interpret that as your enjoying it, like in a relationship – you must use more angry and shocking tactics

§ With this type of rapist, fight; although he will occasionally have a weapon, it is generally an empty threat and he will not want to deal with an overly resistant victim

For more details refer this thread *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/fight-clu...uld-ideal-punishment-rapists.html#post1810903 (request to not to post anything in that thread, use that as a reference)