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whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
Plus, many networks leech their infrastructure.
And who exactly these networks are?BSNL is a govt company & its infrastructure is not used by any pvt organization unless you count BSNL connections to pvt institutions/companies as "leeching".
 

meetdilip

Computer Addict
From what I read through some other sources a few months back, a few providers including Reliance and Airtel wanted to use BSNL infrastructure. They were citing that it's government's job to provide infrastructure.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
If only govt had the good sense to do it.BSNL's infrastructure is gathering dust just like all those planes bought by Air India with no management to run them profitably.Not just Airtel & reliance,BSNL's infrastructure should be open up for rent/lease by any company in India which wants to provide internet services in any part of India.That way even a local cable operator in a small city will have the chance to become an ISP.
 

meetdilip

Computer Addict
The main problem for someone to become an ISP is mainly heavy license fee and lots of paperwork. The amount is really huge, from what I heard.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
That is true for category A license but for small cities category C licenses total fee is somewhere around Rs.90000 only.
How to apply for an ISP license in India
Main issue is not heavy license fees infrastructure cost.With around 1 lakh rupees one can get a category C ISP license but with this much amount one can't lay down cables & other equipment to cover even 10 colonies of average size in a small city.Now if BSNL is allowed to rent their existing phone line network along with use of their local exchanges & cabling,that would greatly reduce the infrastructure cost as it is much cheaper to rent than to laying down an entire network from scratch.
 

meetdilip

Computer Addict
I could only think of how BSNL services will deteriorate. Big ISPs are known to play with public companies, leech them and pay pea nuts.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
You mean BSNL providing any good services now,if that was true it wouldn't be running in such huge losses.I don't know why many people in India resent pvt sector so much when in their everyday life they try to avoid getting involved with govt offices/companies as much as they can.May I know how many BSNL sims are you using compared to pvt mobile providers sims & how many people you know who prefer BSNL sims/broadband over other pvt mobile service providers sims/broadband(if it is available in their area).
 

sling-shot

Wise Old Owl
Actually we do need the public sector enterprises to survive. In many sectors they are the only option however bad they are. And they balance the greed of private players to some extent.

I have observed this in road transportation too. Districts/routes where both private and public buses run have the best behaviour from both.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
It is not govt's basic job to run airlines or provide phone services to people.The govt's job is to make people well enough so that they can afford to fly & buy whichever service they want.Give me example of one public sector company/enterprise that is indispensable(excluding Indian railways which requires some long time for privatisation if ever implemented).

I don't know which area is that but there are no "true private bus services" in India courtesy of political/bureaucratic interference in terms of license & regulations.The quality of pvt bus operators is directly dependent on their political & bureaucratic connections.Just think if such a restricted competition can improve service what would happen if road transport is completely privatised without any political & bureaucratic interference.
 

meetdilip

Computer Addict
ACT is an awesome ISP. But like other pvt ISPs, they operate in major cities. If you move to B class towns and lower, BSNL is the only option. US is better than us, UK and most of the Europe are. But what we have is India. We live here, so we love it. Just like that, a lot of people from small towns and villages have only BSNL.
 

sling-shot

Wise Old Owl
It is not govt's basic job to run airlines or provide phone services to people.The govt's job is to make people well enough so that they can afford to fly & buy whichever service they want.Give me example of one public sector company/enterprise that is indispensable(excluding Indian railways which requires some long time for privatisation if ever implemented).

I don't know which area is that but there are no "true private bus services" in India courtesy of political/bureaucratic interference in terms of license & regulations.The quality of pvt bus operators is directly dependent on their political & bureaucratic connections.Just think if such a restricted competition can improve service what would happen if road transport is completely privatised without any political & bureaucratic interference.
What you wish for is an ideal world. In real world look at broadband market in USA or healthcare sector of USA. Private players will consolidate into monopolies/cartels.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
What you wish for is an ideal world. In real world look at the broadband market in USA or healthcare sector of USA. Private players will consolidate into monopolies/cartels.
Without Private players, there wouldn't be any development leave alone consolidating into cartels. This concerns every sector of the industry.

Who will work for the govt's for pennies when private players are giving millions in remuneration. I mean those who come out of any nation's premier institutions.

It is us "the people" who are in fact helping others consolidating into monopolies/Cartels through our knowledge, time and age. What for? For those millions! Right!

Don't blame others.

For ex: BSNL followed Beam/ACT Broadband Plans in Hyderabad in order to survive.
Where else in India does BSNL is providing the same plans. Tell me?
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
What you wish for is an ideal world. In real world look at broadband market in USA or healthcare sector of USA. Private players will consolidate into monopolies/cartels.
And still the broadband market in USA or healthcare sector in USA is 10 times better than India.India is at the bottom of broadband parameters as well as healthcare parameters.Yes there are risks of pvt monopolies/cartels but that only happens when govt does nothing.e.g.in US gun laws are still unchanged not because majority supports it but because gun lobby is very influential there.If a govt does its job correctly of regulation then there is no chance such monopolies will happen.Anyway this is already offtopic so let's end it here but mark my words.As long as India thinks of pvt sector as some kind of evil & govt sector as some kind of holy necessity it will always remain a Third world country no matter how many satellites it put into space or land rovers on Mars.

Now let me enjoy my 50mbps UL no FUP connection in my part of India & selfishly hope that govt continues BSNL monopoly so majority of other Indian users remain stuck with BSNL & their pathetic speeds so I can have the bragging rights of my 50mbps UL no FUP connection.After all if everybody in India starts getting good speeds what would happen to bragging rights of those of us in big cities with good UL connections.A popular joke/cartoon during the govt monopoly/pre-1991 era was that socialism creates equal society because it makes everyone poor while capitalism is evil because it make some people rich & some people poor.
 

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
And still the broadband market in USA or healthcare sector in USA is 10 times better than India.India is at the bottom of broadband parameters as well as healthcare parameters.Yes there are risks of pvt monopolies/cartels but that only happens when govt does nothing.e.g.in US gun laws are still unchanged not because majority supports it but because gun lobby is very influential there.If a govt does its job correctly of regulation then there is no chance such monopolies will happen.Anyway this is already offtopic so let's end it here but mark my words.As long as India thinks of pvt sector as some kind of evil & govt sector as some kind of holy necessity it will always remain a Third world country no matter how many satellites it put into space or land rovers on Mars.

Now let me enjoy my 50mbps UL no FUP connection in my part of India & selfishly hope that govt continues BSNL monopoly so majority of other Indian users remain stuck with BSNL & their pathetic speeds so I can have the bragging rights of my 50mbps UL no FUP connection.After all if everybody in India starts getting good speeds what would happen to bragging rights of those of us in big cities with good UL connections.A popular joke/cartoon during the govt monopoly/pre-1991 era was that socialism creates equal society because it makes everyone poor while capitalism is evil because it make some people rich & some people poor.
That is the great explanation from our dear Friend.
It's inevitable and true,that supposedly everyone has switched to any particular ISP(Beam,ACT,ALLIANCE,JIO,etc.) an ideal case scenario.Then it will never be possible for that ISP to meet our satisfaction + gratification regarding the bragging rights as pointed out by @whitestar_999.
This is due to to the very competitive nature of networking markets and the variation,we feel our satisfaction regarding our choice in networking(speaking of us those who live in cities).
Yes,those who are in rural areas or in small towns,have to be complacent with the service of BSNL.Or have to wait for some time,till JIO or other ISP reaches out there.
Simply speaking, I was a BSNL Broadband customer since 2007, uptill March 2017,had changed to numerous plans,and used to feel awesomely satisfied in those current scenarios.
ALLIANCE Broadband was present for quite some time,but I was sceptical,and hoped for snail slow development by BSNL regarding upgradation of bandwidth.
But there is a time bar for bearing too little against too much. I mean cr@p speeds of Broadband with loadsh!t amount of money.

ULTIMATELY SWITCHED OVER TO ALLIANCE BROADBAND FROM APRIL 2017 ONWARDS AND NEVER LOOKED BACK TILL NOW.
 

music2soul

Right off the assembly line
Hello. I just joined this forum & totally new so please pardon me if this has already been asked. I was a BSNL Broadband subscriber in the past but discontinued due to frustration as BSNL then used to harass a lot regarding connectivity. Anyways from then till now, nearly 5 years I've been using TATA Photon Max WiFi datacards & I'm extremely happy with TATA's connections. Recently I felt that I should give BSNL a chance as I came to know that BSNL is changing their attitude to customers. I just subscribed for BSNL Broadband but now I'm having problems to enter various file hosting sites like rapidgator, mega, userscloud, openload, 1fichier, uptobox & many other similar sites. I can access all of these sites using my TATA connections on same pc but can't access using BSNL Broadband. My PC runs on Windows 8.1 x64. Can anybody please tell me why I'm having this problem ? Thanks.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Hello. I just joined this forum & totally new so please pardon me if this has already been asked. I was a BSNL Broadband subscriber in the past but discontinued due to frustration as BSNL then used to harass a lot regarding connectivity. Anyways from then till now, nearly 5 years I've been using TATA Photon Max WiFi datacards & I'm extremely happy with TATA's connections. Recently I felt that I should give BSNL a chance as I came to know that BSNL is changing their attitude to customers. I just subscribed for BSNL Broadband but now I'm having problems to enter various file hosting sites like rapidgator, mega, userscloud, openload, 1fichier, uptobox & many other similar sites. I can access all of these sites using my TATA connections on same pc but can't access using BSNL Broadband. My PC runs on Windows 8.1 x64. Can anybody please tell me why I'm having this problem ? Thanks.
What kind of problems you are getting while accessing these sites? I mean are they image hosting sites? Please specify the problem clearly so that we can provide you with final solution.
 

Flash

Lost in speed
Hello. I just joined this forum & totally new so please pardon me if this has already been asked. I was a BSNL Broadband subscriber in the past but discontinued due to frustration as BSNL then used to harass a lot regarding connectivity. Anyways from then till now, nearly 5 years I've been using TATA Photon Max WiFi datacards & I'm extremely happy with TATA's connections. Recently I felt that I should give BSNL a chance as I came to know that BSNL is changing their attitude to customers. I just subscribed for BSNL Broadband but now I'm having problems to enter various file hosting sites like rapidgator, mega, userscloud, openload, 1fichier, uptobox & many other similar sites. I can access all of these sites using my TATA connections on same pc but can't access using BSNL Broadband. My PC runs on Windows 8.1 x64. Can anybody please tell me why I'm having this problem ? Thanks.
Use VPN unblockers.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
Not just BSNL but every ISP in India now has a list of blocked websites which are not exactly same.Try to use https version of all file sharing sites which will unlock a majority of them but not all.For rest there is no other choice other than to use vpn or proxy sites.Also use google dns & not default ISP dns.
 

harry10

Gadgets freak
What is the procedure for plan change at exchange? We need to just give an application or any other document too?

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