PC Buying Guide - March 2011

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vickybat

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^^ Yes i agree about the 2gb vram advantage of 6970 and its overall a bit ahead with aa and af on. But 570 is very much playable too and is the only option for 3d surround after 580 sli.

Thats what i 'm saying. Suggest a 6970cfx and 6950 cfx for eyefinity and 570 sli for 3d surround. Then comes a 560 tri sli for 3d surround. Thats what i have planned. We can also go for a 6 monitor setup for 6970 cfx as a very highend eyefinity rig. Let there be options. I am sure there are prospective buyers out there.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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Actually my point is see that in f1 570 gives 5 fps in sli surround :-| and a person will be damned after spending so much. I know its one game currently but u cant gurantee anything. So put up something better. Avoid risk for future.

BTW are hd3d monitor in india?

And why are those damn manufacturers after 560 2gb and not 570? Really sad.
 

vickybat

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^^Yes i see your point. F1 2010 gets bottlenecked by 570's vram when aa and af are turned on at such high resolutions. But the user can turn off aa and it then gives more than 30fps. Remember that we are talking aa here and not quality. The game settings will be at highest. So no loss in quality. For this particular game, this can be done. And F1 2010 does not support 3d so it does not come under 3d surround. Even if someone plays it , then he/ she can turn off aa and play and still enjoy the visuals. Here i am interested in 3d suround and not sli surround. We have eyefinity for those setups.


No, amdhd3d monitors are not yet available in india. Infact even abroad users are going nvidia's way for 3d because amd has very poor support currently in both 3d hardware and software compared to Nvidia. So until this scenario changes, nvidia still remains the sole option for 3d.

Yes, board manufacturers should consider a 2gb 570 as it will do a world of good to it. Maybe nvidia learned their lessons and wont repeat it with their future cards. AMD has hit the jackpot in this regard. Lets wait and watch if board partners give 570 some additional vram.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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You are welcome.

But its not that aa makes no difference. Jagged edges smoothened to large extent. Pleasing to eyes. and 6970 and 6950 are very good at AA as fps are very much playable. But still 570 good enough for 3d.:)
 

vickybat

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^^Yes AA does make a difference in smoothness.

Off topic- Currently i am running crysis warhead in my 5750 overclocked to 100mhz for core and shader clocks over stock. Getting 28-30 fps at 1600x900(my monitor's native res) and all settings at enthusiast except object quality set to gamer and AA off. With AA set to 4x, it cripples my card but removes jaggies.

When everything set to gamer and still AA off, i am getting 50 -55 fps but when card is overclocked. 5750 is a good card at this resolution.
 

vickybat

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^^ I will try the complete version when crysis 2 will be out on march 22.

Msi gtx 560 twin frozr II ( Factory overclocked) @ 15.5k including taxes at SMC.

Check Here.
 

topgear

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AFAIK around 5k 1000VA is available :-D. ask vicky for pricing.

some awesomeness review here for you guys. i going to read that soon for high end setups. available at prime at 13.5k this is Antec Lanboy Air Blue (a yellow model is also there, dont know with prime but)

Buy Antec | Antec LanBoy Air Blue Modular Case | Antec India | Antec Case

here goes the review -
Antec LanBoy Air Case Review | Hardware Secrets

BTW hardware secrets is very nice site and thanks for the prices of speakers vicky. some 1k case also buddy. cheap will do...

I don't think that cabby worth the premium one will pay for it and at 13k it's overpriced too ( $190 = ~8.7K ! ) and imagine just how much dust it will accumulate over time - it's just a dust magnet mediocre cabby IMO.

Here's a review :
Antec LanBoy Air Analysis and Conclusion | bit-tech.net

So I would say not to recommend this - there are better cabinets out there in the market at 13k.

BTW, CM HAF X is now 10.5k and Asus Sabertooth X58 is 10.8k.

For ~1K nothing beats Zebronics Bijli ( 1.1K ) without PSU.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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topgear yaar it had become my favourite case. be some soft with it. :-(. :-D

BTW lian li starts at 15k??

Guys what to put up? seagate 7200.12 or western digital blue? post in here fast please.
 

vickybat

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^^Though seagate are very good, my personal choice is wd series. I had previously an 80gb wd hdd and used it for 6 years in my old hp pavilion p4 based system. It never had a single bad sector. So i am a bit soft on wd. Recently my uncle's system had a seagate barracuda and it had several bad sectors which i had to reformat for a fix. It of course was from 7200.11 series and that series had some issues. But 7200.12 is good.

So my suggestion is to give both as an option and let people choose. But personally, i am more inclined towards wd blue. I guess you have a green too.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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and topgear please give your opinion on viewsonic serivce. as their vx2250wm at 8.9k is very good monitor.

BTW guys Intel DP67BG is a 8.5k. well i am seeing Digit board tests. (i got it late of this month due to exams) will post here.

and vicky they have reviewed Benq XL2410T and here is whay thay say -
"As for 3d experiance, the 3d still image viewing was flawless. as far as 3d gaming is concerned, all we can tell you is, yes we were able to play 3d content. was it good? well, it was as good(or bad) as the state of 3d technology is right now. scenes in srysis with sense forests did not give very good depth."
 

vickybat

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^^ Well crysis has good support but it was an early title and was not meant for 3d from ground up unlike crysis2. Games like batman arkham asylum, resident evil 5 etc. were made keeping 3d in mind unlike original crysis. Another game is left4dead from valve which has good 3d support.

But upcoming games are build with 3d in mind and performance will only get better. Crysis 2 is a fine example which supports 3d across all platforms i.e consoles and pc. James cameron was astonished to see crysis 2 in 3d and rated it equal with avatar 3d.

That benq 24 inch is best for the features it offers for the price. Its way better than the alienware 3d monitor and is easily available in india.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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ok i see.

i will post here sandy bridge mobo round up.
intel DP67BG seems a killer deal at 8.5k. it won best buy and gigabyte UD7 has won best performer at 17k.
will tell you more.

Dell st2220t 23" Full HD Widescreen Monitor Details

its around 14k. ips with touch. if you guys find review do post here.
 

topgear

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and topgear please give your opinion on viewsonic serivce. as their vx2250wm at 8.9k is very good monitor.

BTW guys Intel DP67BG is a 8.5k. well i am seeing Digit board tests. (i got it late of this month due to exams) will post here.

and vicky they have reviewed Benq XL2410T and here is whay thay say -
"As for 3d experiance, the 3d still image viewing was flawless. as far as 3d gaming is concerned, all we can tell you is, yes we were able to play 3d content. was it good? well, it was as good(or bad) as the state of 3d technology is right now. scenes in srysis with sense forests did not give very good depth."

What I could say more about their service - it's clearly written on the siggy - they totally screwed up and made me angry. So it's very hard for me to recommend this brand anymore.

If you want to recommend that monitor then you may go ahead as service varies from place to place but even after calling their head office in delhi they just denied my warranty claims - anyway DIGIT guys called them and made them to to provide me proper service. Hats off to DIGIT guys for this.

topgear yaar it had become my favourite case. be some soft with it. :-(. :-D

BTW lian li starts at 15k??

Guys what to put up? seagate 7200.12 or western digital blue? post in here fast please.

Hey, when I saw it for the first time I liked it very much too but after reeding the reviews my views changed completely about this cabinet ;-)

I personally like seagate drives and some may WD. Performance and price wise they are neck to neck. So which one to buy between these two depends user experience like viky said - so we should keep both options.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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ok so no viewsonic.

but here are good H67 boards-

Biostar TH67XE @ 6.9k (best buy in digit)
ECS H67H2-M @ 7.4k

costlier asus ad gigabyte were not worth IMO.

good P67 -

Intel DP67BG @ 8.5k (best buy in digit) (imo a steal considering its oc abilities and features)
ECS P67H2-A @ 15.7k (editors pick)
Gigabyte P67A-UD7 @ 17.8k (best performer)

not so good review - ECS P67H2-A Black Extreme Motherboard Performance Review - ECS P67H2-A Black Extreme Intel "Sandy Bridge" P67 Motherboard - Legit Reviews

i think ASUS P8P67 Deluxe at that price is more better.

and the H67 one seems bit good - ECS H67H2-M and H67H2-I Mini-ITX Motherboards Review - Introduction
better than the P8H67 M at 7.6k (online at smc, digit - 7.1k) atleast in terms of festures.

see this UD7 -
Overclock3D :: Review :: Gigabyte P67A-UD7 Review :: Test Setup and Overclocking

Going beyond that does require a little tweaking, but nothing like the levels we've seen on previous chipsets. Whereas the Maximus IV topped out at 4.6GHz the Gigabyte UD7 BIOS is slightly more mature and quite happily strolls along at 4.9GHz without getting above 70°C on our Noctua cooler.

gigabyte rocks :-D :doublethumb:

see more superior ness of gigabyte -
Pricing is fantastic too. The under-equipped and average performing ASUS Maximus IV Extreme is an eye-watering £300-odd. The Gigabyte UD7 should be available for £250, yet is superior in every respect.

just an UEFI is missing and its done.

here are reviews of both. -
Overclock3D :: Review :: Gigabyte P67A-UD7 Review :: Conclusion
Overclock3D :: Review :: ASUS Maximus 4 Extreme Review :: Conclusion

--> maximus at 22k AFAIK and isnt worth. UD7 at 17k is better.

sfift to next post

now time to check these guys -
Sub 20k (Best for office work,movies,downloading)

AMD Athlon II x3 440 @ 3.2k
Asus M4A78LT-M LE @ 2.6k
Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB @ 1.1k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
FSP saga II 350W @ 1.5k
Zebronics Bijli w/o psu @ 1.1k
Benq G922HDL 18.5" @ 5.7k
TVS Champ Keyboard @ 0.2k
Basic Optical Mouse @ 0.1k
APC 600VA @ 1.8k
Logitec Z313 @ 1k

Total - 20.9k

Sub 35k (Entry level gaming,multi media)

AMD Athlon II x4 640 @ 4.6k
Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H @ 4.5k
Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB @ 1.1k
Sapphire HD5770 @ 7.5k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair CX400W @ 2.5k
CM Elite 310 @ 1.5k
DELL IN2020M @ 6.5k
Logitech 3 Button Scroll @ 0.3k
Logitech KB-200 @ 0.4k
APC 650VA @ 2.6k
Logitech Z313 @ 1k

Total - 35.1k

Sub 50k (Mid range gaming)

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9.5k
Intel DH67CL @ 6.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL @ 2.6k
Sapphire HD6850 @ 10k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k
NZXT GAMMA @ 2k
Benq G2220HD @ 7.3k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.2k
Logitech KB-200 @ 0.4k
APC 800VA @ 3.5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 50.7k


Sub 70k (Mid range gaming)

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9.5k
ECS H67H2-M @ 7.4k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
Sapphire HD6950 1GB / MSI GTX560 Twin Frozr II @ 15.5k
Seagate ITB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
CM USP100 @ 3k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 800VA @ 3.5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 68.8k

You may get a HIS HD6950 2GB and unlock it to HD6970 2GB. HIS HD6950 2GB is at 17k.

Sub 85k (High end gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i5 2500k @ 11k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1.8k
Sapphire HD6850 * 2 @ 20k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Seasonic S12II 620 @ 5.2k
CM 690 II Plus @ 5k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 1000VA @ 5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 84.7k

Sub 85k (High end gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i5 2500k @ 11k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1.8k
Saphhire HD6970 2GB / MSI GTX570 @ 21.5k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Seasonic S12II 620 @ 5.2k
CM 690 II Plus @ 5k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 1000VA @ 5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 86.2k

Sub 100k (High End Gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i5 2500k @ 11k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
Sapphire HD6870 * 2 @ 27k
ASUS Xonar DX @ 4.2k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair TX750W @ 6.6k
CM HAF912 Advanced @ 6k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Logitech X-506 @ 5.5k

Total - 105.4k

Sub 100k (High End Gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i5 2500k @ 11k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
MSI GTX580 @ 27k
ASUS Xonar DX @ 4.2k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair TX750W @ 6.6k
CM HAF912 Advanced @ 6k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Logitech X-506 @ 5.5k

Total - 105.4k

Sub 130k (High End Gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i7 2600k @ 16.9k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
Sapphire HD6950 1GB * 2 @ 30k
ASUS Xonar Essence ST @ 9k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair HX750W @ 8.5k
CM HAF912 Advanced @ 6k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
Logitech Z-5500 @ 16k
APC 1000VA @ 5K

Total - 131.5k

Sub 130k (High End Gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Intel Core i7 2600k @ 16.9k
ASUS P8P67 PRO @ 11.5k
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL @ 3.2k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
MSI GTX580 @ 27k
ASUS Xonar Essence ST @ 9k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair HX750W @ 8.5k
CM HAF912 Advanced @ 6k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
Logitech Z-5500 @ 16k
APC 1000VA @ 5K

Total - 128.5k


suggest changes for 100k. its overshooting.

i will put both seagate and western digital in the guide.

guys how do you like this new look, new TDF Table addon - :mrgreen:

Component | Model | Price
Processor|AMD Athlon II x3 440|3200
Motherboard|Asus M4A78LT-M LE|2600
Ram|Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB|1100
Graphics Card|Onboard| -
Sound Card|Onboard| -
Hard Disk|Seagate 500GB 7200.12|1700
DVD Writer|LG 22X SATA DVD|900
PSU|FSP saga II 350W|1500
Case|Zebronics Bijli w/o psu|1100
Monitor|Benq G922HDL 18.5"|5700
Keyboard|TVS Champ Keyboard|200
Mouse|Basic Optical Mouse|100
UPS|APC 600VA|1800
Speakers|Logitec Z313|1000
| Total |20900
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
@ jaskanwar

Buddy, the MSI GTX 570 is 20.2k including taxes at smc instead of 21.5k. Street prices should be a bit lower as well. Please update it in your 85k non sli/cfx rig.

The tabular form looks clean and uncluttered. Go ahead with it.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Ya, it looks really cool. I think we should go with Jas's table...new addition to thinkdigit world:smile::smile:

Well the sub 100K config's price can be reduced by several ways. 1st of all Sandy Bridge processors can be overclocked @ 4 GHz with its stalk cooler. So no need for a high end after market cooler.
We can have something within 2-2.5K
2ndly regarding UPS, lets go with Numeric 1000KVA available @ 4K.
 
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