PC Buying Guide - July 2011

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Cilus

laborare est orare
Off the Topic: Just purchased CM 690 II advanced @ 5.5K. Me and Vickybat went to the CM dealers in Bhubaneswar to buy USP 100. The cabinet was available @ 3.3K All over there and I was quite convinced with it. But this Vickybat....started to force me to see all the high end cabinets and you know...once I saw the big baby with its full metal body and a weight of 10 Kg, well I was pretty much convinced, but not totally.
Again Vicky started singing..."You are gonna Crossfire, you need to show Off, you need Transparent Side panel etc." and believe me, he converted those lines in some sort of rhymes and constantly reciting it.
So purchased it. Pics are coming soon.
 

ashu888ashu888

Core i7 (nehalem) Owner
^^

hahahaha... loved reading it... yup i too own a CM 690 (side glass panel) cabinet and believe me with the LED light PSU (Tagan BZ1100), LED Fans, it looks killer... (see the pics in my core i7 thread in my siggy and u will know wat im trying to say) :D

Congrats on ur purchase Dude... :)
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
Off the Topic: Just purchased CM 690 II advanced @ 5.5K. Me and Vickybat went to the CM dealers in Bhubaneswar to buy USP 100. The cabinet was available @ 3.3K All over there and I was quite convinced with it. But this Vickybat....started to force me to see all the high end cabinets and you know...once I saw the big baby with its full metal body and a weight of 10 Kg, well I was pretty much convinced, but not totally.
Again Vicky started singing..."You are gonna Crossfire, you need to show Off, you need Transparent Side panel etc." and believe me, he converted those lines in some sort of rhymes and constantly reciting it.
So purchased it. Pics are coming soon.

congrats ! 2x 6870 will house well in that BiG baby;-)

BTW, Intel DH61WW is only 3.7K and SB i3 2100 is 6K - can we build a rig using this combo.
 

rchi84

In the zone
Alright guys, I've placed an order for a new system myself :) It's almost the same config as the 60K model. Got my parts from Delta.

Core i5 2400
gigabyte ph67 B3 motherboard
4GB DDR3 1333 Kingston
Western Digital Black 1TB
CM 850 Silent Pro
CM Haf 912 ATX
Samsung p233t monitor
Gigabyte RAdeon 6950 2GB

The system should be delivered in a couple of days. I will keep you guys posted on whether or not I am able to unlock the additional shaders, and then try to OC it to 6970 clocks.

Fingers crossed
 

aathva

Right off the assembly line
Hello,

I want to build a new computer to run intense GSN3 simulations(cisco router simulating software) and also run VMware( virtual machine software), possibly concurently.

I do heavy multitasking

Also, I don't game. No desire to,
but would heavily use bells and whistles built in OS
COMPIZ FUSION under linux
AERO effects under windows 7
NFS MW is the only game i would ever play
and I would watch HD movies
and would run the machine for long hours
so, should be reliable

I haven't built a new computer in so long I don't know much about the current hardware.
So any hardware suggestions?

BUDGET: 25k (excluding Monitor , keyboard&mouse, speakers)
and I need about 8 gig of ram,

Thanks a bunch!
 
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aathva

Right off the assembly line
sorry, d3p5kor thats almost instant,
creating a new thread,
i am too from bangalore
hope u would help me
 

d3p

PowerHouse
of course, we will help you, but fill this up & create your own thread, in order to get your requirements clear.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/128247-pc-build-questionnaire-template.html

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/132775-read-first-thread-starting-tips.html
 

Krystie

Broken In
1. Some of the SSD drives listed here seem extremely expensive - 5800-7200. Aren't cheaper alternatives like Crucial Real SSD not available in India ?
Or is it really worth investing in a slightly pricey (albeit low capacity) SSD ?
From what I've heard SSD gives an enormous boost to loading times; is this correct ?

2. The PSU wattage choices seem a little low for i5 configs. Perhaps I'm wrong but is a 500W really adequate ?

3. Cooling - all of the cooling options seem a little low for the climate here [or is room temperature not that important with current hardware design ?]
Would it be wise to spend a little more on a slightly better cooling setup ?

4. Does anyone have the current pricing for an entry level Windows 7 OS ? It doesn't appear on any of the setups unless I missed it.
I feel that pirating an OS which requires a lot of frequent security updates to be a bad idea.

5. Are there any good UPS boxes that give 45 minutes - 1 hour of power ? Typically power cuts here last anywhere between 45-1 hour :p

6. All the configs have a RAM of 4 gigs. As far as I know Windows 7 uses almost 2; and most current gen games (even sc2/wow/gta4) use up to 1.5 gigs.
Would it be a good idea to get 8 GB seeing how low RAM prices are now ?

7. Is overclocking a good idea in Indian weather conditions ? I definitely plan on getting an i5 2500k which does have considerable oc potential.

8. Are the new motherboards backwards compatible with SATA drives and old IDE drives ? I have a couple of those.

Finally,
9. Does anyone know a good place to acquire parts/get them assembled in Kolkata ? I have a rudimentary knowledge of assembling but I'm not confident enough to seat CPU's on the m/b.
 
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venram87700

Learnin in progress
@krystie ....
hope i answer a few of your answers .... im not an expert like jas, vicky topgear, cilus n others here bt to answer a few of your questions...
1. SSD drives havent actually hit the markets like they shud hav thats the reason they are so costly ... i did some askin around in lamington rd (mumbai) yesterday and the few shops i went still didnt hav any in stock said they would be available in the market my mid april ... same wid sandybridge processors and p67 b3 revision boards
2. PSU wattage depend on the type of config u r runnin bt i believe that it wudnt hurt to hav a few extra wattage for future usage bt we can always use the online watt calculators to check the optimum required wattage..
3. along with coolin we also hav seemed to have forgotten dust and humidity thats probably the cause of failures with pc's running amd processors as the amd processors generally run hotter than intel ones to give that added need in performance bt one can always use some of the tips from the thread on dust free cabinets by lordirecto..

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/tutorials/138401-configuring-dust-free-cabinet.html

4. i believe the entry level win 7 comes somewher in the region of 4500 to 5000 INR .. atleast that was the price of the home basic edition when my cousin purchased it for her laptop ...
5. no idea abt usp's as i havent faced any power outages or voltage fluctuations that's gotta be one advantage of livin in mumbai among a lot of industrial estates .. :D
6. there is one way of increasing the ram usage ... either use win 7 64bit or go to msconfig boot tab and under the config option select use maximum memory..(havent tired this one but did read abt it when i was tryin to find the solution for the same)..
7. if u plan on overclockin then either plan for a good cooling unit or open the side panel of ur cabinet n place it under the ceiling fan and pray that the processor doesnt get fried .
8. if the new mother boards have ide ports they are backward compatible with ide drives but the sata drives are OK they will work with the new mobo's no problems
9. ask topgear he knows kolkata very well as he's from there(thats wat i think)...
thanks n CHEERS !!!!!!!!!!!





by d way guys price for 1TB Seagate HDD in mumbai is 2650 ... i got one on monday .. :D
 
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Krystie

Broken In
@krystie ....
1. SSD drives havent actually hit the markets like they shud hav thats the reason they are so costly ... i did some askin around in lamington rd (mumbai) yesterday and the few shops i went still didnt hav any in stock said they would be available in the market my mid april ... same wid sandybridge processors and p67 b3 revision boards
Hmm this is depressing to hear :/

This means even the standard gaming PC config level and above won't be available in kolkata for 2-3 at least.
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

Jaskanwar Singh

Aspiring Novelist
1. Some of the SSD drives listed here seem extremely expensive - 5800-7200. Aren't cheaper alternatives like Crucial Real SSD not available in India ?
Or is it really worth investing in a slightly pricey (albeit low capacity) SSD ?
From what I've heard SSD gives an enormous boost to loading times; is this correct ?

ya. ssd give a lot of boost. but they are expensive. use them for your os and current games you play.

2. The PSU wattage choices seem a little low for i5 configs. Perhaps I'm wrong but is a 500W really adequate ?

the psu mentioned are adequate.

3. Cooling - all of the cooling options seem a little low for the climate here [or is room temperature not that important with current hardware design ?]
Would it be wise to spend a little more on a slightly better cooling setup ?

the cabinets we mentioned are fine. you may add more fans.

4. Does anyone have the current pricing for an entry level Windows 7 OS ? It doesn't appear on any of the setups unless I missed it.
I feel that pirating an OS which requires a lot of frequent security updates to be a bad idea.

the problem is everyone here doesnt get original software. so we couldn't mention them.

6. All the configs have a RAM of 4 gigs. As far as I know Windows 7 uses almost 2; and most current gen games (even sc2/wow/gta4) use up to 1.5 gigs.
Would it be a good idea to get 8 GB seeing how low RAM prices are now ?

4gb beneficial for multitasking.
8gb not needed. unless you are professional renderer.

7. Is overclocking a good idea in Indian weather conditions ? I definitely plan on getting an i5 2500k which does have considerable oc potential.

the 2500k is very cool. get a CM Hyper 212+ for 1.8k and you are good to go.

8. Are the new motherboards backwards compatible with SATA drives and old IDE drives ? I have a couple of those.

forget ide. the new intel p67 and h67 boards - no ide slot
 

eagle06

Los7 Cau53
Guys i think it will be good if you bring back the products not to buy thread.
like list including cooler master psus, altec lansing vs4621 etc

will i2500k work on H67 board? I can find only H64 B3 boards. So i am planning to buy i2500k+H67 board and latter buy p67(B3)/z68 board with dual pci x16 for crossfire/sli when needed.
 

thetechfreak

Legend Never Ends
^^

Find the Hardware not to buy thread here.


*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/hardware-q/82664-hardware-you-should-not-buy.html
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
will i2500k work on H67 board? I can find only H64 B3 boards. So i am planning to buy i2500k+H67 board and latter buy p67(B3)/z68 board with dual pci x16 for crossfire/sli when needed.

i5 2500K will work on a H67 mobo but as cilus said you won't be able to OC it - if you want a temporary SB mobo get Intel DH61WW - it should be around ~3.5K.
 

outspoken

Broken In
This thread has proved to be a boon to me :)
I was just in the process of upgrading (essentially replacing the CPU) my computer.

I had just two doubts:
1) Why Core i3 processors were not recommended.
I don't know much, just asking because many PC manufacturer specs have i3.

2) On AMD, they have specified that Socket AM3+ will be used in processors later this year, thus I have heard that Gigabyte had released a mother-board with that socket (backward compatible with AM3) so that users can buy it now and would have option to upgrade only processor in future (like 2-3 yrs).

Just asking if I can throw that into the mix.

My budget for CPU dibba is 15K. [No monitor keyboard mouse etc.]
[Currently on AMD for 3 yrs, love the product's Performance : Price ratio :) ]
 
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