Overheating problems

[Krow]

Hmmm... DAMN! Maybe I won't buy the CPU cooler after all. I need the cash for a pen drive. Cooler will have to wait some more time!

thanks for all your help guys.

 

[Krow]

@ damngoodman999 I am getting max load temps of 63 under prime95 after 8 hours @ 1.22V and 3GHz. Can you post a screenshot of your temps at stock speed and vcore (1.35V). Also I need a screenie of stock speed and vcore 1.22V, for both please use prime95 inplace large FFT's test and CPUID H/W Monitor.

 

[topgear]

@ Krow - if you are not going to highly OC the cpu then a Vendetta 2 or SBCCF 120mm edition will do just fine or even a hyper 212 - you can hit speeds around 3.6-3.8Ghz with those as as far as I know anything higher than 3.8Ghz is unstable for Phenom II X4 9xx models.

As there's no TRUE Plain 120mm edition available there's no reason to blow Rs. 4K on that. Instewad buy a cpu cooler mentioed above at around 2.5K and with the rest of the money buy a 16G pen drive

The load temp of 63C with 1.22V vcore is fine for stock cooler So if you OC the the cpu you may hit 68-70C.

 

[Krow]

^^I hit about 3.2GHz stable for 24hrs with vcore of 1.296V. That's the max I reached without overvolting the stock 1.34V. Above the 1.30V, even if I upped the multiplier by .5, I got BSOD.

 

[techie_85]

I have some update guys, about 3 days ago I removed the HSF and processor from the MB, cleaned the HSF (again), kept it outside for a whole night. The next day I reinstalled them , I noticed that the temp has dropped by 10c, right now its idleing at 50 and at load it reaches 65 - 69, is that ok?

 

[damngoodman999]

@ krow

Sorry for late , little work

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i just only calculated in IDLE , for Load i ll tell straightly same vcore 1.26 Prime95 max Load 65

 

[Krow]

^Is that at 3.5GHz? or at stock?

 

[asingh]

But, does an unmodded/unlapped TRUE give better performance than the Vendetta 2? The thing is not only about the fan, TRUE (non black) is outta stock and I would have to get the black which is for 3.5k. I don't think it is worth the premium especially when people have achieved a stable OC of 4GHz even on the SBCCF in India (one is in TE). I think Vendetta 2 should do the job, but the temps are bothering me really. On stock, 70 degrees on full load is a bit too much, isn't it?

Do not believe in anyones quotes about OC, till you do not see substantial screenshots..smiliar to what we put in the OC thread here on TDF forum. 70C on full load with an OC, and extra vCore is fine...!

 

[damngoodman999]

^Is that at 3.5GHz? or at stock?

no its stock speed 3ghz

hey try to get some cooler for 2K no need more than that - i think Hyper 212plus should be enough & good rest spend for pen drive

 

[topgear]

@ Krow - The cpu you have can hit 3.6-3.8Ghz easily. But as you are getting BSOD you might need to pump more vcore combining with better cooler.

@ asigh - I second you ( though I think cpu load 100% temp should be 68C max and lo85-90% load temp should be around 60-65C for AMD quads )

@ damngoodman999 - what happend to your asus cooler ? just curious to know as you posted that screenshot @ 3Ghz with stock HSF/

 

[asingh]

@Krow:

when are you getting the BSOD. Immediately on boot, or when you stress the system..?

 

[Krow]

^At stock 1.34V after I reached there through trial and error method (up from minimum stable 1.22V), at speed 3.3 or 3.4GHz BSOD on boot at both times. During my OC adventures and vcore playing time, I also encountered black screen a couple of times, when I kept vcore same and upped the multiplier by .5. What is the difference between blue and black screen? asigh Were you busy or something? Quite some time you had disappeared.

damngoodman999 Please reduce the vcore to 1.22V and tell me temps. I am getting idle 41 load 63. If you are getting lesser then its good news for me.

topgear I'm trying my best on stock first. Then only can I judge the effectiveness of my cooler, right?

 

[asingh]

^At stock 1.34V after I reached there through trial and error method (up from minimum stable 1.22V), at speed 3.3 or 3.4GHz BSOD on boot at both times. During my OC adventures and vcore playing time, I also encountered black screen a couple of times, when I kept vcore same and upped the multiplier by .5. What is the difference between blue and black screen? asigh Were you busy or something? Quite some time you had disappeared.

damngoodman999 Please reduce the vcore to 1.22V and tell me temps. I am getting idle 41 load 63. If you are getting lesser then its good news for me.

topgear I'm trying my best on stock first. Then only can I judge the effectiveness of my cooler, right?

Do this...

Push the vCore to 1.4V straight.

And then start the CPU increments. Once you reach a comforatble speed, lower the vCore, and keep testing.

Was away for my sisters marriage to my hometown -- Mussoorie.

 

[damngoodman999]

@ damngoodman999 - what happend to your asus cooler ? just curious to know as you posted that screenshot @ 3Ghz with stock HSF/

Yes , i am using also i used my Asus silent knight AL cooler on the intel E7400 on my friends system with intel thermal paste it reduced 16 deg on load & 7 deg in IDLE

With Intel stock cooler 38 idle & 56 Load

With asus silent knight AL 30-31 IDLE 40-41 Load on Prime 95

wats wrongs with the AMD quads , AMD support told that never care of temps ?? so wat to do ??

 

[Krow]

Do this...

Push the vCore to 1.4V straight.

And then start the CPU increments. Once you reach a comforatble speed, lower the vCore, and keep testing.

I will try that. Btw, I am a bit wary of overvolting, so please tell me what I should be worried about/any precautions, etc.

Was away for my sisters marriage to my hometown -- Mussoorie.

Good to have you back. This thread is just not the same without you around.

Yes , i am using also i used my Asus silent knight AL cooler on the intel E7400 on my friends system with intel thermal paste it reduced 16 deg on load & 7 deg in IDLE

With Intel stock cooler 38 idle & 56 Load

With asus silent knight AL 30-31 IDLE 40-41 Load on Prime 95

wats wrongs with the AMD quads , AMD support told that never care of temps ?? so wat to do ??

That is really some improvement. I am skipping the pendrive in search of a cooler now. Decided finally and skipping the pen drive due to bloated prices. Will wait for 'em to fall and then buy the pd. For 2.6k the Vendetta 2 seems a nice deal, am skipping the TRUE for the lack of a fan.

What is the difference between blue and black screen?

damngoodman999 Please reduce the vcore to 1.22V and tell me temps. I am getting idle 41 load 63. If you are getting lesser then its good news for me.

Please respond to my queries guys.

 

[asingh]

I will try that. Btw, I am a bit wary of overvolting, so please tell me what I should be worried about/any precautions, etc.

Good to have you back. This thread is just not the same without you around.

That is really some improvement. I am skipping the pendrive in search of a cooler now. Decided finally and skipping the pen drive due to bloated prices. Will wait for 'em to fall and then buy the pd. For 2.6k the Vendetta 2 seems a nice deal, am skipping the TRUE for the lack of a fan.


Please respond to my queries guys.

Do not worry, about the overvolting too much. You will get a BSOD if you push too much juice into the system, or it will not reach the desktop.

When I was OC'ing my system, even I did it this way:

1. Increase the CPU metrics.
2. Test.
3. Increase vCore.
4. Loop back.

Somehow this was not working for me.

Then I just moved the vCore straight to 1.4V. (My original motherboard out of the box started with 1.3V, which was way to high. So I was safe moving it to 1.4)

And then I started to push up the CPU metrics. And easily reached a comfortable level.

What all are you using for temperature monitoring. Do it in two phases:

1. Keep a constant temperature software on: Like Everest or CPU Temp in the task bar. So as soon as you hit the desktop, you can see the core temperatures.

2. Check it while stressing, using OCCT or RealTEMP. OCCT makes wonderful graphs, which you can analyse.

Also try not to too much benchmark your CPU/System with what Damngoodman has done. No two chips are the same, always remember this. Even if they are from the same foundry and forged at the same second, there can be a difference........!

Thanks for the welcome back...!

 

[topgear]

@ Krow - Yup, Try to extract the max out of your stock HSF then think about the 3rd party cooler but do note that if you push the vcore to 1.4V and OC the cpu you should buy a 3rd party HSF 1st as it's a very important component for OC

Black screen occurs when you just can see the windows loading animation but after that windows never loads and blue screen occurs when you can see a GUI interface of windows ie most of the time after loggin into windows

@ damngoodman999 - May be that's some lower binned part as I asigh has pointed out

Also try not to too much benchmark your CPU/System with what Damngoodman has done. No two chips are the same, always remember this. Even if they are from the same foundry and forged at the same second, there can be a difference....

 

[damngoodman999]

@ Krow

Bit work here ! sorry yaar

Hmm Now iam using 1.23 Vcore @ 3Ghz stock speed - seriously dude u get the cooler ASAP then check the temps unless we cant guess which one is true & which one is not

@ Asigh , topgear & Krow

Now i am getting PHYSICAL MEMORY DUMP ERROR BSOD !??? i dono y RAM seems to be okay checked with another system , it happens only with WINDOWS 7 64bit RTM , as now only before that i dont only in the booting of windows .

error code 0 X 000000002 physical memory dumb ??

 

[asingh]

@Krow:
Are you OC'ing that baby on stock HSF. Please, please do not. The domain you are divulging in, is risky. I feel like a fool advicing you 1.4V and all that.

Be careful buddy....! When I had my stock, I did not OC even 1 MHz.

@Damngoodman:
Can you increase the NB Voltage on your mobo. Try that a notch. If persists then try a bit more juice in your CPU vCore. Slight more.

 

[Krow]

I need to google up some spicy AMD OC guides it seems. Okay so here goes....


I was looking for V2, but it was outta stock. So, got the TRUE 120 eXtreme revision C @ 2.8k. How is the buy?

Looking for a Silverstone 110CFM fan with controller for about 750 bucks, but really gotta save up for a month or two for that.