Overheating problems

[asingh]

@ asigh

Whats the accurate temperature of ur E7400 ?? can u tell ?? in IDLE & LOAD

u told that u were getting 80c on Load with Stock cooler , then how HYPER 212 reduced 40 deg ??? from 80c ??

Of course I can tell the accurate temperatures. I use RealTEMP and Everest for monitoring.

What you mean...HOW Hyper 212 reduced 40C.

It did..is it not what it is supposed to do...?

It now idles at 31-32C and loads to max 42C-43C.

Loading method: Prime95 (2 worker threads) : > 60 minutes.

TJMax = 100C

This is what was happening with stock cooling..it was a disaster. Once I get home..will post the same test with Hyper 212...do not have the screen shot saved on my imageshack account.

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And this is what CPU Hardware monitor was showing with stock...notice the v-Core..I lowered that to around 1.1V and got a 'bit' lower temperatures, but was not satisfied...so went for the Hyper 212. Will Post the new test results..to night...

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You might say:
That I did not let the system run long enough, to give the stock HSF a chance.

WELL:
I was all ready p****** in my pants and sh****** bricks when I hit 95C+ in flat 5 minutes...see the timestamps for MIN and MAX.....!!

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In this is with the Hyper 212:

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At full load am hitting a maximum of 43C and idle is a cool 33C in a non-A/C environment....!!!

 

[topgear]

This is your processor.

Now..

1. Were you getting the same temperatures with the OC using stock HSF..?
2. I think your Hyper 212 is working correct. Before within three minutes you were hitting 75C, now after an hour you reach 58C using Orthos.
3. Its all right if you did not use the back plate. Even I did not use it. Will hardly make a difference. Though the back side nuts should be really secure and tight.
4. CM Fusion is fine. It does not have a settle in period. Though how did you spread it on the CPU..?? Most people suggest to put a few drops. But I do not believe in that, cause at times the pressure is not applied correctly (during HSF mount), and it will not spread. If you can -- take a old credit card, or cover your finger with a plastic bag and spread a thin even layer over the CPU.
5. How many fans you have on the Hyper 212. I just have one --- Pull.
6. How is your cabinet ventilation and cooling system -- fans, ducts, spacing, cable management.
7. Could you run it for Prime 95 -- 2 worker threads, and post a screen shot. Keep TJmax = 100.

Overall you seem to be in the safe limit for temperatures, you v-Core is pushing extra into the chips for the OC...so temperatures are up. But do 1---7 just to be sure and have a safe and optimized system.

Let us know..!

Yup, that one is my proc.

With stock HSF & three minutes of orthos - Everest ( Latest ) showing the base temp of 75C & the core temps were 61/63C ( Measured by Realtemp 3.00 )

Hyper 212 lowered them to base temp 68C & core temps 56/58C. ( 1 hour orthos small FFts test - stable )

I've secured the back nuts correctly

CM nano fusion - I always use 2 small rice grain like drops & it spreads well. Have checked it many times with other HSF & this one too as last night I removed the Hyper 212. Took a closer look to the HSF base & the CPU spreading area. They spread-ed well.

I've 2 120mm fans on hyper 212 & installed them correctly as shown in the manual.

I'm using zebronics bijli cabby. I've one 1200mm & one 80MM fan as front intake. 1 80mm fan as side intake.
1 80mm & 1 120mm as rear exhaust.

There is no obstacle in the area of fan intakes & exhaust & the cables are managed well.

Will post a screen shot of prime95 after I install everything.

 

[asingh]

Yup, that one is my proc.

With stock HSF & three minutes of orthos - Everest ( Latest ) showing the base temp of 75C & the core temps were 61/63C ( Measured by Realtemp 3.00 )

Hyper 212 lowered them to base temp 68C & core temps 56/58C. ( 1 hour orthos small FFts test - stable )

I've secured the back nuts correctly

CM nano fusion - I always use 2 small rice grain like drops & it spreads well. Have checked it many times with other HSF & this one too as last night I removed the Hyper 212. Took a closer look to the HSF base & the CPU spreading area. They spread-ed well.

I've 2 120mm fans on hyper 212 & installed them correctly as shown in the manual.

I'm using zebronics bijli cabby. I've one 1200mm & one 80MM fan as front intake. 1 80mm fan as side intake.
1 80mm & 1 120mm as rear exhaust.

There is no obstacle in the area of fan intakes & exhaust & the cables are managed well.

Will post a screen shot of prime95 after I install everything.

Run RealTEMP, which executes the prime95, and post the screen shots, like how I did above. But do this all on stock. You might need to bring your v-Core back to normal, what ever it was when you installed the system.

If you do this..we will have a benchmark. If it is fine..then start the OC, and see the temperatures. Your temperatures will be on the higher side since you have OC'ed.

Waiting for the screenshots..!

 

[topgear]

Removed one fan from the 212 & it's even performing well with only one fan

I've extensively tested the e5200 OC on my It seems like the cpu goes upto 2.7Ghz with stock voltage which is 1.18V under load. But loses stability if you increase the clock speed any further. So after 1 months of test I've found that 1.26V is stable enough @ 3.2Ghz but it loses stability if I set the cpu to run @ 3.3Ghz. So 1.26V & 3.2Ghz us perfectly stable.

So if I run the cpu @ stock voltage with 3.2Ghz the cpu will not be stable.

You have asked for a stock temp measurement. Will try to post that later.

CPU : e5200 running at 3.2Ghz with 1.26V ( vcore ). I've set it 1.3V on bios & the Vdiff is .2V so the cpu idles @ 1.28V in windows & 1.26V under load. So vdrop is 0.02V.


Test : 1

Ambient Temp 33C

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C1E halt state is enabled in bios setting so the cpu idle speed dropped to 1600Mhz .


Ambient Temp 27C

CPU Base Temp Under Load & Idle is 64C & 49C
CPU core Load & Idle temp is 53/55C & 40/44C

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[wasimakram]

hi

how can we check overheating from the bios or somewhere. please explain





QUOTE=kaustav_geek;256296]Hi,

What about thermaltake? How much do 120mm and 80 mm fans cost now?

@ john_the_ultimate :

How did you cut the blowholes in your cabinet?
Where do the fans get power from?Are there any leads on the mobo for additional fans other than the sys_fan?

Please notify the total costs incurred during the process.

Gracias[/QUOTE]

 

[asingh]

Removed one fan from the 212 & it's even performing well with only one fan

I've extensively tested the e5200 OC on my It seems like the cpu goes upto 2.7Ghz with stock voltage which is 1.18V under load. But loses stability if you increase the clock speed any further. So after 1 months of test I've found that 1.26V is stable enough @ 3.2Ghz but it loses stability if I set the cpu to run @ 3.3Ghz. So 1.26V & 3.2Ghz us perfectly stable.

So if I run the cpu @ stock voltage with 3.2Ghz the cpu will not be stable.

You have asked for a stock temp measurement. Will try to post that later.

CPU : e5200 running at 3.2Ghz with 1.26V ( vcore ). I've set it 1.3V on bios & the Vdiff is .2V so the cpu idles @ 1.28V in windows & 1.26V under load. So vdrop is 0.02V.


Test : 1

Ambient Temp 33C



C1E halt state is enabled in bios setting so the cpu idle speed dropped to 1600Mhz .


Ambient Temp 27C

CPU Base Temp Under Load & Idle is 64C & 49C
CPU core Load & Idle temp is 53/55C & 40/44C

You temperatures are fine, and the HSF is doing a decent job. You have a OC'ed system, with extra juice going into the chips -- it will heat up.

No need to worry enjoy the overclock. Best I can suggest -- every 8-9 months, clean out the system removing all dust, and re-mount the HSF. Though if the room is dust free..then no need to worry..!!!

No need for stock temperatures, you seem to be in the safe zone.

 

[topgear]

^^ Thanks a lot buddy

 

[Manickaraj]

Guys i have a xfx 4870HD card and it idles at 65 degree C. Is this normal?

 

[asingh]

Guys i have a xfx 4870HD card and it idles at 65 degree C. Is this normal?

Ya..that is fine...How much is it reaching during load....?

 

[clmlbx]

hey guys check this out ...I don't think this is normal temp for my proxy

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applied local thermal paste & also 1 extra local fan (below smps).

It went to 80-81 on full load (prime test) and idle temp does not goes below 44-45.

when I start encoding video It goes to 70. it is a problem I guys ..

can overheating cause because of smps. check this

My config

c2d e4300 (1.8 ghz)
kingston 2 gb ram
intel org. D946gzis
sata 2 seagat 160 Gb Hard disk
lg dvd writer
intex tv tuner card
1 Extra fan
Microsoft Keyboard & Frontech mouse.

running all on 230 as written at back of smps (on red slide switch ) ...actually don't know what exact it is as it is 7-8 years old atleast.

 

[asingh]

hey guys check this out ...I don't think this is normal temp for my proxy



applied local thermal paste & also 1 extra local fan (below smps).

It went to 80-81 on full load (prime test) and idle temp does not goes below 44-45.

when I start encoding video It goes to 70. it is a problem I guys ..

can overheating cause because of smps. check this

My config

c2d e4300 (1.8 ghz)
kingston 2 gb ram
intel org. D946gzis
sata 2 seagat 160 Gb Hard disk
lg dvd writer
intex tv tuner card
1 Extra fan
Microsoft Keyboard & Frontech mouse.

running all on 230 as written at back of smps (on red slide switch ) ...actually don't know what exact it is as it is 7-8 years old atleast.

You should not get core heating due to SMPS.

1. What type of cabinet you have -- how is the ventilation system.
2. Your TJmax seems to be set at 90C. It should be 100C. Change it in the application.
3. Are you running this in an A/C environment.
4. Are you on stock HSF

Your temperatures are all right, you can live it with...but should be 10C to be comfortable.

Try reseating the HSF (make sure you see the pushpins on the back of the motherboard)

Use some good TIM. (Cooler Master/Arctic Ice). Also

Clean out the HSF so their is no dust in the fins.

 

[clmlbx]

7-8 years old cabby ..
what is tjmax
no ac .. room temp may be little high
yes I am using my stock fan that came with smps
to check if it is properly back on motherboard have to unscrew mb from cabby but it looks very tight from front,
cleaning done (fan)

temp is ok ?

as intel app for temp start giving critical temp as soon it crosses 65-68

now just using IE 8 with 6 tabs , yahoo , 1 folder and 1 small utility and temp says 87

 

[asingh]

7-8 years old cabby ..
what is tjmax
no ac .. room temp may be little high
yes I am using my stock fan that came with smps
to check if it is properly back on motherboard have to unscrew mb from cabby but it looks very tight from front,
cleaning done (fan)

temp is ok ?

as intel app for temp start giving critical temp as soon it crosses 65-68

now just using IE 8 with 6 tabs , yahoo , 1 folder and 1 small utility and temp says 87

TJMax = Junction temperature maximum. It is the temperature when the CPU will start to throttle -- the CPU will start to run at lower frequencies to conserve power and not get burn out. You can read a more detailed version here.

In Realtemp there is a settings button. Set it too 100C.

You are running on the higher side. If you have to then you have to...remove the mother board and see that the pushpins are secure of the HSF.

 

[jatt]

Dear frnds,
one of my friends pc was working good,suddenly its stopped yesterday,its cpu fan problem i think so,then i replaced that CPU fan with new one.but now the problem is when i start system boots good,but after 1min it shut down automatically.i also changed bios configuration to defaults,but not success please guide here what i need to check now.i will be very thankful to you.
configuration is>>2.66 intel chipset,80GB hard disk,RAM 512 etc.
with thanks

 

[jatt]

plz give reply its urgent for me.

 

[damngoodman999]

Dear frnds,
one of my friends pc was working good,suddenly its stopped yesterday,its cpu fan problem i think so,then i replaced that CPU fan with new one.but now the problem is when i start system boots good,but after 1min it shut down automatically.i also changed bios configuration to defaults,but not success please guide here what i need to check now.i will be very thankful to you.
configuration is>>2.66 intel chipset,80GB hard disk,RAM 512 etc.
with thanks

Model number of the Processor please ?? is it dual core / pentium 4 ??

check the RAM ! if it boot i dont think problem with the processor , which RAM BRAND ARE U USING ??

 

[jatt]

its pentium 4,i have already checked RAM,and also checked with different power supply.i think there is no pest on the cpu i want to apply and know about results is it right,please suggest anything.i will be very thankful to you.

with thanks
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Posted again:
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its pentium 4,i have already checked RAM,and also checked with different power supply.i think there is no pest on the cpu i want to apply and know about results is it right,please suggest anything.i will be very thankful to you.

with thanks

 

[topgear]

Remove & Reinstall your processor Heat Sink. Before reinstalling don't forget to put a thin layer of thermal grease on the processor. Use good thermal paste from arctic or coolermaster. Rs. 250-400

 

[ashnu_tnj]

my pc config is
intel 945gccr
dual core 2.8ghz
2gb ram
palit gt9500 -1gb graphic card

now my computer suddenly gets restarting continuously after some time...when i saw the temp in speed fan it was
CPU:76(goes even around 95 and gets off)
Ambient :58
Remote:56
HD0:49...
GPU:50
CORE:50

so i cleaned my board,fan,heat sink,smps fan also...and i applied thermal paste also...but it didnt work out so i gave to a service person and asked to do the same..but still it was around same temperature...so i added one more side fan to the cabinet...after all these still i have the problem of heating..my SMPS is 450 watts...my service person says that this overheating is due to overloading of SMPS and asks me to buy a 600watt SMPS...is this my real problem...suggest me some remedy...within a budjet less than 1000 please....

 

[furious_gamer]

^^
Get a Zebby 600W Generic PSU for 1.2k locally. Or get a Powersafe 500W Silver one for 1.5k. The latter one is worth giving a shot.