Next Gen Console discussion ( PS4 'n Xbox One'n Wii U )

[gopi_vbboy]

Thanks tkin.Does that include price of controller or we need to buy separately?

 

[tkin]

Thanks tkin.Does that include price of controller or we need to buy separately?

Yes, console, AC3, one controller(wireless) and 30day Playstaion Plus pass: Amazon.com: PlayStation 3 500GB Assassin's Creed III Bundle: Video Games

 

[cyborg47]

Find this article pretty intriguing:-

PlayStation 4 launch vs. reality: Don't believe the hype - Destructoid

Typical Destructoid article

EDIT - and, good news..

PlayStation 4 will not block used games

*www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

 

[vickybat]

^^ Rubbish destructoid article i must say.
The guy didn't knew or had no clue what he was talking about.

Just saw the killzone , capcom, U4 and other tech-demos. Crysis 3 is already history man.
I guess Naughty dog will bring their ACE at E3 and we all know what that would be.

Besides, did you watch quantic dream's 3d model demo? The facial lines and textures beat crysis 3 models i've seen so far.
Their next unannounced title will probably feature 'katie holmes' just like 'Ellen Paige' for 'Beyond'.

I'll write a short preview soon.

P.S - That's one heck of a news man. Ps4 being able to play used games is just an icing on the cake.
I expect this to beat the legendary "Playstation 2" and take the title of "The most successful console of all time".

 

[cyborg47]

Why Katie Holmes?

^^ Rubbish destructoid article i must say.
The guy didn't knew or had no clue what he was talking about.

Its possible, Sony will have a hard time getting around with the backlash if they really are faking their demos(Aliens CM says hi). But I don't think they are really foolish enough to do that, and the specs seem very much capable of producing the showcased visuals, the new KZ for example, looked good but not without flaws. I have different opinion on Capcom's Deep Down btw, which looked suspiciously good for a real time demo.

 

[vickybat]

^^ She's too good looking.

Yeah but sony had proved people wrong before. You might remember the infamous killzone CGI trailer back in the ps3 launch days.
People questioned ps3's capabilities a lot with a lot of criticisms.

Out of nowhere comes killzone 2 and silenced everyone. It not only matched that tech demo but also surpassed it visually.
The killzone shadow fall demo was no CGI but was a real-time demo. A 7970m class gpu is definitely capable of much much more than that in a closed box environment.
So it was definitely not fake. We already have an idea of capcom's brilliant MT framework engine in the lost planet series.

Their new engine for next-gen should be good and i won't be surprised if it turned out to be as good or even better than what was showcased in deep-down.
Expect a lot of other games and live-demos to be unveiled at E3 with even a chance to try them hands-on.

The physical ps4 should also be unveiled there.

 

[cyborg47]

Expect a lot of other games and live-demos to be unveiled at E3 with even a chance to try them hands-on.

The physical ps4 should also be unveiled there.

and the behemoth..Naughty Dog!!

 

[tkin]

^^ Rubbish destructoid article i must say.
The guy didn't knew or had no clue what he was talking about.

Just saw the killzone , capcom, U4 and other tech-demos. Crysis 3 is already history man.
I guess Naughty dog will bring their ACE at E3 and we all know what that would be.

Besides, did you watch quantic dream's 3d model demo? The facial lines and textures beat crysis 3 models i've seen so far.
Their next unannounced title will probably feature 'katie holmes' just like 'Ellen Paige' for 'Beyond'.

I'll write a short preview soon.

P.S - That's one heck of a news man. Ps4 being able to play used games is just an icing on the cake.
I expect this to beat the legendary "Playstation 2" and take the title of "The most successful console of all time".

I wouldn't say that destructoid article was cr@p, read the comments there guys, the author is right, the tech demos mean nothing, wait for the actual games to launch first, its one thing to render a designed scene, another to run a game with all variables present.

*i.imgur.com/pCa0QYQ.png

 

[iittopper]

killzone was the most impressive demo ! I will just buy ps4 for the sake of exclusive games , but will be a loyal pc gamer . Oh before that i have to buy ps3 first to play uncharted and heavy rain

 

[tkin]

killzone was the most impressive demo ! I will just buy ps4 for the sake of exclusive games , but will be a loyal pc gamer . Oh before that i have to buy ps3 first to play uncharted and heavy rain

Before buying it, take a look at actual killzone footage first

PS4 is a brand new platform and it takes a few years for the devs to optimize it, chances are the games at launch will look nowhere near as good as the techdemos.

Go for PS3 first, get a used one to play the exclusives, games should become cheaper as well.

 

[cyborg47]

PS4 is a brand new platform and it takes a few years for the devs to optimize it, chances are the games at launch will look nowhere near as good as the techdemos.

You can't apply that to every single console generation

Before buying it, take a look at actual killzone footage first

And it looked awesome, and perfectly possible on a rig like PS4

 

[thetechfreak]

Is there any price difference for PS3 now in India and PS3 purchased in US?How much can we save?
Currently 500GB is around 22k on flipkart.

and there might be problem of region locked BR disks(I might be wrong)

Its about $299, so around 16.5k there. Comes with AC3.

Expect it to cost double in India

 

[tkin]

You can't apply that to every single console generation

worked for 3 generations, why not this? All I can say is buying anything, a new GPU architecture, revolutionary cheap tablets like funbook(FML ), new consoles on launch day is a stupid idea, give it 6 months for the prices to come down, the bugs to be spotted and ironed out and for new games to come out, remember the infamous RROD or the YLOD? A X360 owner(my cousin) who bought it in usa just after launch almost threw his console through the window when it RROD's for the third time.

 

[cyborg47]

worked for 3 generations, why not this? All I can say is buying anything, a new GPU architecture, revolutionary cheap tablets like funbook(FML ), new consoles on launch day is a stupid idea, give it 6 months for the prices to come down, the bugs to be spotted and ironed out and for new games to come out, remember the infamous RROD or the YLOD? A X360 owner(my cousin) who bought it in usa just after launch almost threw his console through the window when it RROD's for the third time.

Yeah that's kinda true, but I was only responding to your comment on the optimization.
Comparing the post launch issues of every generation might be a wrong idea, why not compare the kind of pre producton Sony, their first and third party developers had back then and have right now?(Scalable engines, how many devs had them back in 2004-5? none! and now? EA, Crytek, Epic, Capcom, SQE..) Even the third party developers are prepared more than ever for the next gen and lot of them even received the SKUs quite early. The destructoid article made the same mistake, he's only focusing on the problems it created but not how much the devs have improved since then. The guy also completely ignores the fact of Sony trying to simplify the hardware to allow easier development for the developers. Big fail journalism tbh, nothing new on destructoid
ITS 8GB GDDR5 FFS!!

 

[iittopper]

Before buying it, take a look at actual killzone footage first

PS4 is a brand new platform and it takes a few years for the devs to optimize it, chances are the games at launch will look nowhere near as good as the techdemos.

Go for PS3 first, get a used one to play the exclusives, games should become cheaper as well.

yep saw the 8 min gameplay footage and it was really good . I will definitely not going to get ps4 on launch date ! but if the no of exclusives coming to only ps4 increase , i might have to change my mind.

 

[vickybat]

Check out the killzone footage

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Don't forget to change the quality to 720p for best experience.

 

[cyborg47]

Capcom's Deep Down really impressed me, way better than Samatarian. But I'll wait till they show the actual game running on the box. Too good to be real time

 

[Skud]

^^ Rubbish destructoid article i must say.
The guy didn't knew or had no clue what he was talking about.

Just saw the killzone , capcom, U4 and other tech-demos. Crysis 3 is already history man.
I guess Naughty dog will bring their ACE at E3 and we all know what that would be.

Besides, did you watch quantic dream's 3d model demo? The facial lines and textures beat crysis 3 models i've seen so far.
Their next unannounced title will probably feature 'katie holmes' just like 'Ellen Paige' for 'Beyond'.

I'll write a short preview soon.

P.S - That's one heck of a news man. Ps4 being able to play used games is just an icing on the cake.
I expect this to beat the legendary "Playstation 2" and take the title of "The most successful console of all time".

Have you read the article? That's exactly what the article wants to convey - there's a huge difference between a tech demo and the real games. The same with PC graphics cards, tech demos (particularly those of nVIDIA's) are far more impressive than any actual game.

It took a lot of time to actually tap the full capabilities of the hardware without hampering performance, not saying it's gonna happen this time too, but that's the trend.

 

[cyborg47]

I heard Killzone 2 had a tech demo before PS3's release, but still surprised the people after the release? how true is that?

 

[tkin]

I heard Killzone 2 had a tech demo before PS3's release, but still surprised the people after the release? how true is that?

It surprised fanboys only

By the time killzone 2 came Crysis had far surpassed it, 2 yrs before