Inviting Stll More Opinions on Panasonic FZ47 (or) Canon SX240 Hs

[sujoyp]

and as I said before sx240 have 3 meter flash range and fz47 have 9 meters ....soo if taking group pics try practicing with flash at night and low light....
and in case of landscapes and creative shots use a cheap tripod costing 800-1000

 

[blackpearl]

Don't buy bridge cameras. Why? Because they have the downsides of both PS and DSLRs - poor image quality on a huge body. If you are going to carry a camera as big as a bridge, you better get an SLR, otherwise stick to PS. The IQ of all PS are basically the same - the difference is marginal. If IQ is so important to you then get a camera with a bigger sensor such as the Micro Four Thirds as suggested by @NoasArcAngel.

Don't fret over little things like a dozen more noise pixels between camera models. 9 out of 10 times, you won't notice the difference. Also don't be fooled by f/2.8. f/2.8 on a PS is like f/8 on an APS-C sensor.

Source: 2-years experience with a Sony bridge camera

 

[sujoyp]

And what about the changing lenses...and no macro mode ...and cost of lens other then default one ....do u really think everyone wants them.

A person having 16k budget will loose too many things with a EPL1 compared to a superzoom cam...but if he can spend twice more later then he is eligible for DSLR and m4/3 world

 

[marvelousprashant]

^ WRONG
1. Bigger body is an advantage that is why DSLR's are big. It is possible to make full frame cams with small bodies ex Leica M9 (interchangable lens) or Sony RX1 (fixed lens). Bigger body helps in balancing the weight of lens that is why bridge cams have bigger bodies

The IQ of all PS are basically the same - the difference is marginal.

Point and shoots start from 5k and upto 20k they all have the same senor size. But huge difference in quality.. Also marginal difference matters if two products are available for the same price.

If IQ is so important to you then get a camera with a bigger sensor such as the Micro Four Thirds as suggested by @NoasArcAngel.

OP will have to buy a 200mm lens... which makes it out of budget

Also don't be fooled by f/2.8. f/2.8 on a PS is like f/8 on an APS-C sensor.

F/2.8 will still be faster than f/3.5

 

[blackpearl]

^ WRONG
1. Bigger body is an advantage that is why DSLR's are big. It is possible to make full frame cams with small bodies ex Leica M9 (interchangable lens) or Sony RX1 (fixed lens). Bigger body helps in balancing the weight of lens that is why bridge cams have bigger bodies

Bigger bodies are not an advantage. It is a necessity to accommodate the large sensor and the mirror. Why do you think mirrorless are so popular these days?

Point and shoots start from 5k and upto 20k they all have the same senor size. But huge difference in quality.. Also marginal difference matters if two products are available for the same price.

I wasn't comparing a 5K camera with a 20K one. Obviously, there will be quality difference. I was talking about similar priced camera with similar capabilities. Just pick one you are comfortable with.

OP will have to buy a 200mm lens... which makes it out of budget

That's right. OP's budget won't allow him to do go beyond a bridge. But he shouldn't worry so much about IQ, because he is going to get none. That's what I was saying.

F/2.8 will still be faster than f/3.5

Of course it is faster, but OP wants blurry background. I want to tell him that having f/2.8 doesn't magically give him blurry backgrounds. PS have apetures much too small to create acceptable bokeh, even if technically it is f/2.8.

 

[sujoyp]

Bigger bodies are not an advantage. It is a necessity to accommodate the large sensor and the mirror. Why do you think mirrorless are so popular these days?

Bigger body r definitely an advantage when u want a firm grip on the camera...I think u never thought how will u balance a 700gm lens on a EPL1 which is 300gm....it dont have a right hand grip...u can not fold ur fingures to hold the cam...u cant hold it the way u hold a P&S coz it will imbalance

Do u know people use battery grips for dual advantages...1st more battery life & more bust rate 2nd grip in portrait mode

 

[NoasArcAngel]

^ WRONG
1. Bigger body is an advantage that is why DSLR's are big. It is possible to make full frame cams with small bodies ex Leica M9 (interchangable lens) or Sony RX1 (fixed lens). Bigger body helps in balancing the weight of lens that is why bridge cams have bigger bodies


Point and shoots start from 5k and upto 20k they all have the same senor size. But huge difference in quality.. Also marginal difference matters if two products are available for the same price.


OP will have to buy a 200mm lens... which makes it out of budget



F/2.8 will still be faster than f/3.5

1. Bigger body is not an advantage its a necessity, take a look at D3x or any full frame sensor camera.

2. IQ in 16~20k camera range is almost the same

3. This also depends on camera sensor crop factor. So infact 14-42mm may seem less, it is actually ( 14x[crop factor] - 42x[crop factor] )mm

Leica M9 is more biased towards proffesionals / fans and offers very very good low light performance ( thanks to CCD sensor ) but this is what dpreview has to say :

"

The M9 is Leica's first 'full-frame' digital rangefinder, enabling the use of most Leica 'M' series lenses at the originally intended field-of-view. The 18MP CCD sensor is fitted with a filter that avoid the M8 and 8.2's need for lens-mounted UV and IR filters. It retains the classic M series look and build quality while promising a no-compromise approach consummate with its not-inconsiderable price-tag. While beautifully engineered and undeniably capable as a photographic tool, the M9 understandably lacks some of the digital sophistication offered by more mass-market products and its sensor isn't a match for the latest CMOS designs in low light. Its lack of anti-aliasing filter enables it to capture astonishing levels of detail at lower ISO settings though.


"

whats the point of buying this camera? it doesnt even offer basic DSLR sophistication yes so the SIZE is a necessity then to provide all camera functions.

And what about the changing lenses...and no macro mode ...and cost of lens other then default one ....do u really think everyone wants them.

A person having 16k budget will loose too many things with a EPL1 compared to a superzoom cam...but if he can spend twice more later then he is eligible for DSLR and m4/3 world

the e-pl1 has a macro... ? thats true the only reason for suggesting a micro-four thirds is for the sheer image quality. The IQ difference is phenomenal and i think that can compensate for the fact of not having a telephoto zoom.

 

[titlingkm]

Came to native town for diwali...So i cant give immediate reply...Still not ordered.. planning to order before November 15, coz offer ends by that day also to consider all ur suggestion.. and prshanth..y u change ur like to FZ47 from SX240..i cant understand it... my concern on fz47 is Image Quality..?? is it possible to improve like any chdk to canon??? or any other options..?? or any other suggetions towards camera like TZ30 or i can go straight away to FZ47 itself??

Thanks for nac,angel, sujoyp,prashanth,blackpearl

 

[marvelousprashant]

TZ30 has inferior IQ than SX240 and no aadvantahe in aperture. FZ4 gives a major advantage in aperture thereby decreasing the required ISO and hence increasing IQ

 

[titlingkm]

Tonight going to order.. may be fz47..and also still impressed with SX240hs..Any last minute suggestion invited and considered most valuable....Pls.. my countdown startd

 

[sujoyp]

LOL dont be confused...last min suggession is start practicing a good photo editing software like lightroom or photoshop ....

 

[titlingkm]

ok..FZ47...

 

[marvelousprashant]

Ordered? Anyways whichever you order, you'll forget the other in a week and will start loving your cam

 

[titlingkm]

decided FZ47... thanks to all.. need to learn Lightroom to improve this pic. quality... but this spec seems great and gud as marvel and sujoyp suggested..
hope that my decision is not wrong... also help me to learn the basics of photography to take a snaps..

Ordered? Anyways whichever you order, you'll forget the other in a week and will start loving your cam

not yet dear.... just viewing some reviews on youtube..any last minute suggestion..??
and why marvel u change ur decision to FZ47 from SX240hs..??
pls i need ur answer?
becoz ur initial opinions change my mood to SX240hs from FZ47.. but now im trying to change to FZ47..
so pls explain

 

[sujoyp]

ummm prashant have already answered it

 

[titlingkm]

Hi dudes.. First-of-all I would like to thank marvel and sujoyp as the same asking Sorry to them.. You people suggested more on FZ47 but I am impressed with SX240HS image quality and made an order now on Canon SX240HS..However,all your valuable suggestions and guidance are really useful to know much about camera and its purchase.. I badly oscillated between Hardware spec of Panny and Output performance of Canon..Atlast I decide to go with Sx240hs after seeing prashanth photography page..Once again I am sorry to my dear Sujoyp and marvel becoz they badly suggested on FZ47 and also patiently answered some of my silly questions too. And equally I am thanking NAC who suggested SX240HS... also thanking to Angel,Blackpearl who participated in this mix with their timely and good suggestions... I expect the support from all in future on knowledge sharing& etc., My little dream comes true today...I am happy today. Cheers!!!

 

[marvelousprashant]

Well both sx240 and fz 47 are equal. It is just that a certain situation might favor one of them. Even then the difference will be hard to notice.

It is good to see you went with your choice. Self satisfaction is most important

BTW I also have the sx240. Welcome to the club

 

[titlingkm]

Thanks Marvelprashanth..
and one another common doubt..
1.)how many hours we need to give first charge to battery(like mobile battery,whether need to charge for a 24 hours??)
2.)Is there any Do's and Dont's..?

 

[marvelousprashant]

There is a lot of misinformation on the Internet. You need to charge it completely and then use it till it runs out. This process is supposed to be done only once. It does not increase the capacity or decrease the wear. It simply tells the bios or whatever about the actual battery capacity. This applies to all items with lithium batteries.

In long term usage full discharge can let the battery wear out quickly.

There is no point in discussing if the battery should be unplugged after full charge or not because the battery auto disconnects itself at 100% and reconnects around 90.

Regarding do And don't s always keep that string around your wrist while shooting. Sometimes you may get too absorbed in photography and someone/ something might surprise you ( like a insect or someone keeping his hand on your shoulder suddenly). That string would prevent the camera from falling. That's the only practical tip I've learnt the hard way

 

[sujoyp]

LOL I personally suggested SX240 to maybe all the people having budget 12-16k Its a good cam...u will enjoy it