India's first spacecraft to Mars successfully put into Earth's orbit !

[doomgiver]

lets get it straight a few facts :

1. this is 2014, not 1980's. we have much more advanced tech available to us, PLUS, all the cumulative experience of all the previous successful or failed mars missions (its called "knowledge", in case you were wondering)
2. the orbiter carries simple instruments, hence low cost. try putting a rover or an entire damned chemical lab into it, and cost will skyrocket.
3. putting something into orbit is not too hard, you just gotta have good maths.

everyone is acting like this is a freaking HUGE thing, and we've done something so freaking radical, that everything forever will be changed by this.
we DIDNT do anything brilliant.
brilliant would have been putting a rover-type thing on mars on the first try, but our scientists are too pussy for that.

sure, its a nice achievement. but its nothing big, or groundbreaking.

we're just repeating stuff which was done 20 years ago with today's tech.

its like racing against a maruti 800 in a ferrari, and feeling proud you beat them. it was just as expected.

dont blow up your egos too much, we're still YEARS behind NASA.

 

[srkmish]

I have to say that is a very negative attitude. the amount of cost involved is still by any means not less and the precise engineering involved is a testament to its functioning well. All in all. projects like these are always a risk. Just last month 2 rockets got destroyed seconds after launch even if this "advanced tech" and "experience" is there for us to tap.

 

[doomgiver]

im negative because its being blown out of proportion. mars missions are a common thing. hell, even japan has done one(even tho it ran out of fuel).

List of missions to Mars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if this was done 10 years back, THEN it'd be spectacular. This is too little, too late.

 

[Anorion]

if it is followed up with more missions, with a higher capacity launch vehicle, more sensors, and puts to full use a bigger budget, then its a good thing

 

[doomgiver]

if it is followed up with more missions, with a higher capacity launch vehicle, more sensors, and puts to full use a bigger budget, then its a good thing

^this!!

atm, its just a pissing contest. it doesnt even have a spectrometer, iirc. bah, space "probe".

 

[Gollum]

Mangalyaan have been featured in Time's list of "The 25 Best Inventions of 2014".
The 25 Best Inventions of 2014

On second position.

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All I can say

Spoiler

bad cable management

 

[kg11sgbg]

No fools are comparing ISRO with NASA!!!!!!!!!!!!
In a country like ours where we are still a developing economy and a 3rd World country according to Global Standards...where we are plagued by poverty,illiterate people and above all corruption,with Govt. apathy towards research and funding projects IT IS A GREAT FEAT AND ACHIEVEMENT THAT MAKES US PROUD.

Why are we comparing us with Japan or U.S. when our ECONOMY is much behind them???????????????

Still with a crippled economy and frowning upon by the Mighty EAST(China) and the WESTERN countries, ISRO has gone to leaps and bounds. This is the truth.

Negative attitude against the country and Howling , by sitting in Glass Houses ,only makes one vulnerable to themselves.

 

[doomgiver]

Negative attitude against the country and Howling , by sitting in Glass Houses ,only makes one vulnerable to themselves.

Overconfidence has ruined more people than humility.

 

[Anorion]

well no one is focusing on the shortcomings and only celebrating
This was basically a mission for figuring out the technology required to send the orbiter to mars, the actual scientific objectives were secondary
Welcome To Indian Space Research Organisation - Mars Orbiter Mission

The PSLV is meant for only light payloads, and is not enough for launching anything really useful in today's standards. Say for launching satellites for other countries, we need a higher capacity launch vehicle.
1 payload was dropped to keep orbiter light - The Times of India
There were compromises made to keep the orbiter light

The orbiter had to choose between an elliptical orbit, with a longer life, and a closer orbit that could get more scientific data but with less life. It chose the elliptical orbit.

and why get all proud because it was cheap

the "cheapness" was forced upon Isro because of earlier failures. The smaller, older Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) had to be deployed, rather than the more powerful Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV), because Isro had failed to stabilise the GSLV's cryogenic technology in time to launch into a favourable Earth-Mars window. The payload for the Mars orbiter had to be considerably reduced as a result. The trajectory also became more complicated because the PSLV lacks the power to take a more direct route. A GSLV-based Mars mission would have cost more. But it could have carried a much bigger payload, and it could have reached Mars faster.

Is The Focus On India's "Cheap" Mission To Mars Missing The Point?

 

[doomgiver]

As i said, atm, its a pissing contest. (who can piss the furthest)

Mars mission did NOTHING other than put a basic satellite in orbit around mars. As i said before, it(mangalyaan) doesnt have any decent scientific instruments to qualify as a "science" probe.

Everytime I see someone talk about mangalyaan, they get so freaking proud that a cheap indian probe did all this. They forget this is 2013, and the first successful mars mission happened in 1970's.

We're 40 years late to the party.

Stop acting as if it makes us special.

 

[kg11sgbg]

Overconfidence has ruined more people than humility.

Confidence or overconfidence,still we are proving ourselves not to some sh!tty race against advanced nations + economy + technology,but to gain knowledge and understanding. It is for this aspect,this mission though indigenious ,still got co-operation from U.S.(NASA Deep Space Network) ,AUS Deep Space Network ,EU Nations,more or less in a Global scale.

You mean to say,that since we are quite some years back,we should keep our hands folded and sit quiet returning to medieval ages....
Again Man you are comparing "Guavas" to "Apples".
But , Guava is no crap fruit and it is adored by most of the people .
Apples obviously do have its own being and presence,and is generally considered an elite and super fruit,undeniably.

After the above discussions,it is LAUGHABLE TO COMPARE INDIA WITH THE U.S. EVERYTIME.
It really makes NO SENSE AT ALL WITH THIS ILLOGICAL COMPARISON.

 

[Anorion]

^not at all. But with a little more effort, or actually a little less failure, ISRO could have actually done something substantial. The biggest achievement for this mission has been just getting there. That was all they aimed for also, there are no major objectives beyond that, so it feels like an empty mission, and a waste of that little money they spent also. Probably could have tested their navigation / communication / mission planning prowess in a simulator, and used the resources for an actual scientific mission.

And apples are just a fruit, not a super fruit.

Hopefully the methane sensor does something

 

[kg11sgbg]

^not at all. But with a little more effort, or actually a little less failure, ISRO could have actually done something substantial. The biggest achievement for this mission has been just getting there. That was all they aimed for also, there are no major objectives beyond that, so it feels like an empty mission, and a waste of that little money they spent also. Probably could have tested their navigation / communication / mission planning prowess in a simulator, and used the resources for an actual scientific mission.

And apples are just a fruit, not a super fruit.

Hopefully the methane sensor does something

May I humbly, know, what will be our(common man) stand for this event?

 

[abhigeek]

I just sitting here , waiting for ISRO Scam

 

[beingGamer]

As i said, atm, its a pissing contest. (who can piss the furthest)

Mars mission did NOTHING other than put a basic satellite in orbit around mars. As i said before, it(mangalyaan) doesnt have any decent scientific instruments to qualify as a "science" probe.

Everytime I see someone talk about mangalyaan, they get so freaking proud that a cheap indian probe did all this. They forget this is 2013, and the first successful mars mission happened in 1970's.

We're 40 years late to the party.

Stop acting as if it makes us special.

You are talking like,
Hey someone climbed Mount Everest 40 years ago. Taking a first step to it in first attempt is so pussy, lets teleport to the top.
Its call reasearch & development, it will be step by step only. Its not like someone else did this, so we have to do even further without understanding how the other achieved it in the first place.

 

[kg11sgbg]

You are talking like,
Hey someone climbed Mount Everest 40 years ago. Taking a first step to it in first attempt is so pussy, lets teleport to the top.
Its call reasearch & development, it will be step by step only. Its not like someone else did this, so we have to do even further without understanding how the other achieved it in the first place.

+10000..... to this.

That is a comment made by a sane,logical and common sense bearing person.
Kudos to you,Friend [MENTION=265475]anikkket[/MENTION].

 

[Vyom]

Is the cost of Mangalyaan - India's Mars Mission - of Rs. 450 crore, or $ 71 million justified?

Only first post is sufficient.

 

[doomgiver]

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i didnt say anything about going back to ancient times, lol. you made that all up. its just your imagination.

only the person who goes 1st to mount everest is remembered. nobody remembers the others. sure, today you can go and climb it, but that wont be as spectacular as the 1st time it was done, and you'll not be celebrated. do you know who Nazir Sabir is? he's the 1st paki to climb everst. who gives a flying fvck about that? now imagine if pakistanis celebrate a lot and call this guy god and say that this was the best thing ever, look how stupid it'd be.

Think for a moment and know how far behind we are. what we've done is nice, but nothing to boast about. its nothing new. dont inflate your egos.

 

[kg11sgbg]

^What is your problem man?
Is this ego hurting you or others???
Just explain within the perspective.

 

[beingGamer]

^What is your problem man?
Is this ego hurting you or others???
Just explain within the perspective.

seems like he can't digest this news.

Someone reached Mars so there is no point of someone else going there?

PS: get well soon [MENTION=102842]doomgiver[/MENTION]